Besides "Oh it's the end of the world" responses, opinions on Brett Kavanaugh et. al.

Hayabusa Rider

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As will inevitably happen I expect this to go to TRUMP, REPUBLITARDS, and perhaps the opposite on what passes on the right here, but I'd appreciate if we could get into something less hyperbolic than usual right off.

We know some names and he's reportedly at the top of the list. Compared to other Conservative Justices (note big C) how is he? Scalia, Gorsuch, whomever.

Non-hackery greatly appreciated.

Also, of those known as possibilities who is best/least worst?
 

ivwshane

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I don't know any of the people on the list nor do I know their background so my opinion would be formed mostly from whatever the media I consume thinks.


That being said, my opinion is that anyone part of the federalist society doesn't belong anywhere near a courtroom.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society

They are the standard bearer for your typical Republican thinking. That is, their stated goals are the exact opposite of their actions. They are hypocrites and a walking contradiction.

The society asserts that it "is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be."

You can't, on one hand say what government should be, then on the other hand, say that laws are as they are written and claim you don't support judicial activism.
 
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I named Kavanaugh in the Kennedy retirement thread as my likely pick. He is impeccably credentialed. Sends a huge number of clerks to then clerk for the SCOTUS Justices and he was key on the decision to not allow an illegal immigrant to obtain an abortion. He’s also young which means decades of service potential.

That being said he’s tied to Bush which might not sit well. Also many conservatives didn’t think he went far enough on the abortion decision. The might be afraid he’d be another Kennedy on some of their major issues.

Then there’s Amy Coney Barrett. She sparred with Feinstein during a confirmation hearing and conservatives loved her. It’s been said Trump has been talking about nominating a woman. She would be my second choice.

With such a narrow margin in the Senste it will come down to who can get by. Collins and Murkowski seem to be signalling they don’t want someone to overrule Roe v. Wade.
 

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Conservatives have been willing to destroy the rule of law to get conservative Supreme Court justices in place. It's time to take the the Presidency and the Legislature back and undo what has been done to undo this aggression. They have created a debt to justice that must be paid. Time to put outrage on the other foot. Time to halt our descent into darkness by making some needed repairs. We need a court that doesn't hold us back in a time when keeping up with change is critical to our survival as a nation.
 

IJTSSG

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It took him 3 years to get confirmed to the federal bench and then he was accused of not being "forthcoming". His confirmation could be interesting.

Far right seems concerned that overturning Roe v. Wade is not an automatic with him.

It could almost be argued that he's already sitting on the bench. A dozen of his opinions have been adopted by SCOTUS. I'm not sure how common that is.

The 2nd amendment is my personal litmus test. He wrote the dissenting opinion on Heller saying that banning semi-auto pistols, semi auto rifles and requiring firearms registration were all unconstitutional.:)
 

Commodus

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It took him 3 years to get confirmed to the federal bench and then he was accused of not being "forthcoming". His confirmation could be interesting.

Far right seems concerned that overturning Roe v. Wade is not an automatic with him.

It could almost be argued that he's already sitting on the bench. A dozen of his opinions have been adopted by SCOTUS. I'm not sure how common that is.

The 2nd amendment is my personal litmus test. He wrote the dissenting opinion on Heller saying that banning semi-auto pistols, semi auto rifles and requiring firearms registration were all unconstitutional.:)

What's ridiculous is that elements of the right think overturning Roe v. Wade is a realistic option.

If they somehow pulled that off, the political situation in the US would get very ugly, very quickly. We're talking states openly defying that ruling, or thousands of people physically blocking clinic shutdowns and occupying legislatures. I don't think the religious zealots understand that there's no going back.
 

Jhhnn

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It took him 3 years to get confirmed to the federal bench and then he was accused of not being "forthcoming". His confirmation could be interesting.

Far right seems concerned that overturning Roe v. Wade is not an automatic with him.

It could almost be argued that he's already sitting on the bench. A dozen of his opinions have been adopted by SCOTUS. I'm not sure how common that is.

The 2nd amendment is my personal litmus test. He wrote the dissenting opinion on Heller saying that banning semi-auto pistols, semi auto rifles and requiring firearms registration were all unconstitutional.:)

More & deadlier guns is always the answer.
 

nickqt

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What's ridiculous is that elements of the right think overturning Roe v. Wade is a realistic option.

If they somehow pulled that off, the political situation in the US would get very ugly, very quickly. We're talking states openly defying that ruling, or thousands of people physically blocking clinic shutdowns and occupying legislatures. I don't think the religious zealots understand that there's no going back.
Well, at best for people against abortion, it just means that states can pass laws restricting abortion access that are far more wide-reaching than they are now. Liberal states can continue keeping it safe and legal.

One thing is for sure: it would signal to one side's die-hard base that they can stay home now. On the other hand, it'd signal to many casual/non-voters that it's time to stop taking their rights for granted and start voting.
 

whm1974

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Well one thing we can say for sure, there will be a huge fight over who gets picked for the SCOTUS.