Besides murder and theft what one law, if abolished, would cause total havoc?

[krunchykrome]

I dont understand, all of you actually condone the legalization of drugs?

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Because marijuana being illegal really prevents people from trying it out.

Marijuana is probably one of the least addicting drugs, yet it is still a drug where a one time user would soon be a casual user. However, my concern is not so much on Marijuana, but more so with the stronger drugs.

And to answer your question, most professionals with any common sense do not use marijuana. Maybe they experimented with it at a young age, but they soon grow up and stop using it. The problem with stronger drugs is that they are much more addictive and it would be so much harder to kick the habit, even when they get some brains and grow up.[/quote]

I think you would be shocked and surprized at the high number of 'professionals' who do smoke marijuana. Just because they don't tell you about it, desn't mean they don't do it. I think there are more people that do, than there are that don't.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, those are the smart people with some common sense. But how many of those cigarette smokers were people who just "tried one" and today they struggle with the addiction

So only the dumb people get addicted to legal drugs (and die/go homeless/go to jail)?

Sounds good to me, lets make evolution work for us.

 

[psydancerqt]

the law that says you have to stop for red lights and stop signs

 

[Zaitsevs]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: jtvang125
I think legalizing illegal drugs would start causing the most chaos. What do you guys say?

I disagree. Drugs were not even made illegal until the 1920's-1930's and the country got along just fine.

Yep. Actually, legalizing drug would reduce crime, as the undrground markets run by gangs would suddenly disappear.

along with the murders and theft, etc that goes along with underground markets, you know?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Because marijuana being illegal really prevents people from trying it out.

Marijuana is probably one of the least addicting drugs, yet it is still a drug where a one time user would soon be a casual user. However, my concern is not so much on Marijuana, but more so with the stronger drugs.

And to answer your question, most professionals with any common sense do not use marijuana. Maybe they experimented with it at a young age, but they soon grow up and stop using it. The problem with stronger drugs is that they are much more addictive and it would be so much harder to kick the habit, even when they get some brains and grow up.

I think you would be shocked and surprized at the high number of 'professionals' who do smoke marijuana. Just because they don't tell you about it, desn't mean they don't do it. I think there are more people that do, than there are that don't.
[/quote]

I would not be surprised if a few people I worked with smoke casually. But I definetly dont agree with that last statement about more peope do it than dont. I dont know where you live or who your peers are, but that certainly isnt the case here or anywhere I've been.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: MixMasterTang

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: jtvang125
I think legalizing illegal drugs would start causing the most chaos. What do you guys say?

Why?

Could you imagine living in a world with druggies everywhere? At least now that it's illegal, they keep to themselves for the most part and they do it within privacy because it is illegal and they do not want to get caught. I certainly don't want to live in a society where people are drugged up and high can roam freely without consequence.

Legalizing drugs does not make tresspassing, driving under the influence, public intoxication, public disorder, etc. legal as well so I don't see how this will enable them to "roam freely without consequence" any more than they could already do now. You aren't allowed to just walk around drinking beer now and causing a ruckus even though alcohol is legal.

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out. They may only intend to try it out and experience it once, but they might then find themselves addicted. The laws against drugs deter people from trying them out. Look at alcohol; how many professionals go drinking at happy hour after work.....plenty. Alcohol isnt nearly as addictive as drugs, so casual drinkers arent likely to become alcoholics. If alcohol were to be made illegal, the general public, those that abide by laws would not want to take the chances and break the law. The law deters those from participating in such activities. If drugs were to be made legal, casual drug users would soon become addicts and many lives would be wasted.

You've watched a few too many scared straight TV specials!
I respect your disdain for illegal drugs, but your lack of knowledge of the subject is overly apparent. Alcohol is and always has been our #1 drug problem in this country, and contrary to your belief it is one of the most additing substances on the planet.
10x more money is spent, lives are lost, etc..., etc.... on Alcohol addiction every year in this country than all illegal drugs combined. Just take a tour of a few treatment facilities and see who makes up a majority of the patients, I'll give you a hint, it's not crackheads and potheads

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont understand, all of you actually condone the legalization of drugs?

I don't understand, do you actually think that the reason people don't do drugs is because they are illegal?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, those are the smart people with some common sense. But how many of those cigarette smokers were people who just "tried one" and today they struggle with the addiction

So only the dumb people get addicted to legal drugs (and die/go homeless/go to jail)?

Sounds good to me, lets make evolution work for us.

I dont see any other way of labeling them if they are stupid enough to use them. (That doesnt apply to marijuana, although I dont condone the use of that either)

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out. They may only intend to try it out and experience it once, but they might then find themselves addicted. The laws against drugs deter people from trying them out. Look at alcohol; how many professionals go drinking at happy hour after work.....plenty. Alcohol isnt nearly as addictive as drugs, so casual drinkers arent likely to become alcoholics. If alcohol were to be made illegal, the general public, those that abide by laws would not want to take the chances and break the law. The law deters those from participating in such activities. If drugs were to be made legal, casual drug users would soon become addicts and many lives would be wasted.

I agree completely with Amused. You should go read up on a little history before you
make anymore opinions on things you obviously know nothing about. More people died from Alcohol abuse when it was illegal in the US than in any other time period.

Also, laws against drugs do very little to deter people from using, in comparision with education about the side effects of using drugs.

Seriously, not to mention the money that is poured into "preventing" these drugs from becoming available in the USA. Krome, are you also not aware that alcohol IS classified as a drug? I guess not, because you started your post saying "Drugs are extremely addictive" then followed it up down the line by saying "Alcohol isn't nearly as addictive as drugs".

Not to jump on your case and try to argue against it, because I know the hard drugs like Cocaine and Heroin are absolutely more addictive, but how you worded your posts makes it sound like you think alcohol is almost harmless and nonaddictive compared to every other single drug you can think of. In fact, of the people I know, more of them have a problem with drinking then they do with smoking weed. I think you put too much emphasis in what other people think of our laws and how it reflects on them not doing the substances it protects usage of.

 

[Yossarian451]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out.

Because marijuana being illegal really prevents people from trying it out.

Marijuana is probably one of the least addicting drugs, yet it is still a drug where a one time user would soon be a casual user. However, my concern is not so much on Marijuana, but more so with the stronger drugs.

And to answer your question, most professionals with any common sense do not use marijuana. Maybe they experimented with it at a young age, but they soon grow up and stop using it. The problem with stronger drugs is that they are much more addictive and it would be so much harder to kick the habit, even when they get some brains and grow up.

Thats wrong. Most people actually just try marijuana once. You are making some kind of wild speculation about people becoming casual users, which is it were true would mean most of the baby boomer generation or college populations on whole would currently be causal users. Don't spout things that make no sense, most people just try it once and that is it, a few of those will go on to do it regularly; then a smaller portion of those will go overboard with it and make it a daily kind of thing.

 

[saymyname]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: MixMasterTang

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: jtvang125
I think legalizing illegal drugs would start causing the most chaos. What do you guys say?

Why?

Could you imagine living in a world with druggies everywhere? At least now that it's illegal, they keep to themselves for the most part and they do it within privacy because it is illegal and they do not want to get caught. I certainly don't want to live in a society where people are drugged up and high can roam freely without consequence.

Legalizing drugs does not make tresspassing, driving under the influence, public intoxication, public disorder, etc. legal as well so I don't see how this will enable them to "roam freely without consequence" any more than they could already do now. You aren't allowed to just walk around drinking beer now and causing a ruckus even though alcohol is legal.

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out. They may only intend to try it out and experience it once, but they might then find themselves addicted. The laws against drugs deter people from trying them out. Look at alcohol; how many professionals go drinking at happy hour after work.....plenty. Alcohol isnt nearly as addictive as drugs, so casual drinkers arent likely to become alcoholics. If alcohol were to be made illegal, the general public, those that abide by laws would not want to take the chances and break the law. The law deters those from participating in such activities. If drugs were to be made legal, casual drug users would soon become addicts and many lives would be wasted.

You're just making stuff up. What are your case studies? Drugs are legal in serveral countries.

Everything is bad when not used/taken in moderation. With your logic we would make alcohol and videogames illegal.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont understand, all of you actually condone the legalization of drugs?

I don't understand, do you actually think that the reason people don't do drugs is because they are illegal?

That is not the only reason why people do drugs and I never said such a bold statement. I am saying that with drugs being illegal, it does deter people form casually experimenting with them much like people do with cigarettes and alcohol.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out.

Because marijuana being illegal really prevents people from trying it out.

And to answer your question, most professionals with any common sense do not use marijuana. Maybe they experimented with it at a young age, but they soon grow up and stop using it. The problem with stronger drugs is that they are much more addictive and it would be so much harder to kick the habit, even when they get some brains and grow up.

Define professionals? Are musicians, artists, and pro athletes professionals? If so, I would reassess that paragraph, if not I would like for you to further explain what you mean.

 

[saymyname]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out.

Because marijuana being illegal really prevents people from trying it out.

Marijuana is probably one of the least addicting drugs, yet it is still a drug where a one time user would soon be a casual user. However, my concern is not so much on Marijuana, but more so with the stronger drugs.

And to answer your question, most professionals with any common sense do not use marijuana. Maybe they experimented with it at a young age, but they soon grow up and stop using it. The problem with stronger drugs is that they are much more addictive and it would be so much harder to kick the habit, even when they get some brains and grow up.

You're making stuff up again. What are you basing your arguments on?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: saymyname

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: MixMasterTang

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: jtvang125
I think legalizing illegal drugs would start causing the most chaos. What do you guys say?

Why?

Could you imagine living in a world with druggies everywhere? At least now that it's illegal, they keep to themselves for the most part and they do it within privacy because it is illegal and they do not want to get caught. I certainly don't want to live in a society where people are drugged up and high can roam freely without consequence.

Legalizing drugs does not make tresspassing, driving under the influence, public intoxication, public disorder, etc. legal as well so I don't see how this will enable them to "roam freely without consequence" any more than they could already do now. You aren't allowed to just walk around drinking beer now and causing a ruckus even though alcohol is legal.

Drugs are extremely addictive. If they are to be made legal, people are more prone to try them out. They may only intend to try it out and experience it once, but they might then find themselves addicted. The laws against drugs deter people from trying them out. Look at alcohol; how many professionals go drinking at happy hour after work.....plenty. Alcohol isnt nearly as addictive as drugs, so casual drinkers arent likely to become alcoholics. If alcohol were to be made illegal, the general public, those that abide by laws would not want to take the chances and break the law. The law deters those from participating in such activities. If drugs were to be made legal, casual drug users would soon become addicts and many lives would be wasted.

You're just making stuff up. What are your case studies? Drugs are legal in serveral countries.

Everything is bad when not used/taken in moderation. With your logic we would make alcohol and videogames illegal.

So what is your stance on drug legalization? I've stated my opinion, whats yours? You condone drug use? You wouldnt care if drugs were legalized?

Seriously, all of you are attacking me and twisting my words but none of you are stating your own opinions....?

The popular opinion here is that drugs should be legalized? It seems as though you all are arguing with me about that while defending drugs.

 

[saymyname]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, those are the smart people with some common sense. But how many of those cigarette smokers were people who just "tried one" and today they struggle with the addiction

So only the dumb people get addicted to legal drugs (and die/go homeless/go to jail)?

Sounds good to me, lets make evolution work for us.

I dont see any other way of labeling them if they are stupid enough to use them. (That doesnt apply to marijuana, although I dont condone the use of that either)

What about cigarettes?

 

[Chiropteran]

Back on topic, it's my opinion that if the telemarketing laws were removed we would be in total chaos.

 

[gwlam12]

It's pretty sad to think that abolishing murder and theft would cause total havoc. Does that mean that everyone here wants to murder and steal, but doesn't because it's against the law? I think if traffic laws were abolished, there would be total havoc.

 

[Cookie]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

So what is your stance on drug legalization? I've stated my opinion, whats yours? You condone drug use? You wouldnt care if drugs were legalized?

Seriously, all of you are attacking me and twisting my words but none of you are stating your own opinions....?

The popular opinion here is that drugs should be legalized? It seems as though you all are arguing with me about that while defending drugs.

I didn't mean to twist your words, I was being slightly sarcastic.

But as for your other questions, I don't condone drugs use, but I think the illegalization of drugs does nothing but put money in the pockets of drug lords and dealers, create crime, create drug abuse and cause havoc with society.

 

[BoomerD]

I can't believe no one has said it yet...


Oldsmoboat's Law....

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: Cookie

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

So what is your stance on drug legalization? I've stated my opinion, whats yours? You condone drug use? You wouldnt care if drugs were legalized?

Seriously, all of you are attacking me and twisting my words but none of you are stating your own opinions....?

The popular opinion here is that drugs should be legalized? It seems as though you all are arguing with me about that while defending drugs.

I didn't mean to twist your words, I was being slightly sarcastic.

But as for your other questions, I don't condone drugs use, but I think the illegalization of drugs does nothing but put money in the pockets of drug lords and dealers, create crime, create drug abuse and cause havoc with society.

And you believe that legalization of drugs would create less havoc within our society?
You dont think that people who would normally be detered to use drugs because they're illegal (no this is not the only reason people choose not to use drugs) might experiment with them? And those people wouldnt then become addicted. Imagine that situation on a larger scale, a national scale. Now imagine the downfall of society because of that.

This is assuming that the legalization of drugs would entice people to experiement with them.

 

[clamum]

If people wanna do drugs they're going to do them regardless if they're illegal or not. I suppose there would be a small number that do not do them just because they're illegal, but it's not like half the country is going to be hooked on cocaine if it was legalized. That just doens't make any sense.

As for the OP, I'll say repealing a law against theft.

 

[Injury]

Rape.

Unplanned population increase FTL.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont understand, all of you actually condone the legalization of drugs?

Do you really know anyone who doesn't do drugs simply because they are illegal and for no other reason? No, you don't.

As for the drug-laws-prevent-people-from-inadverdently-becoming-addicted claim, I got a shocker for you. Alcohol and tobacco are both more addictive and and more harmful than any illegal drug out there. I have a drug counselor friend who says the only difference between alcohol and ANY illegal drug out there is the "2 L's": liquid and legal.