Bernie Sanders Seattle Event forced to shut down by #blacklivesmatter

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Indus

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Then again, if a top flight leader was responsible, you would be better off looking to Obama.

And Obama would just say this demagoguery has gotten a bit out of control.

This is actually going to hurt them because of all the candidates running for 2016, Sanders is the most able to help them.

It seems that this time, it's less about ideas to fix country but more about a general protest against the system. If it continues, next year could be very interesting.
 

HTFOff

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It's obvious sanders called one a scallywag and flipped the bird to the other. Look at the unedited version. :awe:

Sanders needs some professional goons. One can only hope to see this attempted at a rally for the email guru or trump. Strictly for entertainment value.
 

cubby1223

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Okay, I finally listened to the youtube video. Something fishy definitely was happening

"I will speak when everyone is ready... I will wait... Thank you for showing me how black lives matter, continue... This is the most liberal we have, you guys are full of bullshit with your Black Lives Matter... You're never going to hear Bernie speak unless I hear silence now..."

"I was going to tell Bernie how racist the city is filled with all its progressives, but you already did that for me... Now that you've covered yourself in your white supremacist liberalism..."

But that's the large problem with "Black Lives Matter". There is no central command. It's just groups of people everywhere doing what they personally feel is the right way to proceed. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't. And when something like this happens, you're left in a "what the fuck?" confusion, is this for real or is it staged by someone? You don't know because there isn't a central command to the group. It could be, it may not be.
 

mizzou

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I think this just might be evidence #1,000 that proves the limited strength of de-centralized movements or movements with no leadership.

Even if you look outside the USA, there are clear signs that "Twitter Revolutions" can have some effect, but in the end fail to meet their end goals every time.

Sure, you got rid of your president. But how many people died and is it really worth a military dicatorship in its place?
 

Moonbeam

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If the Republicans can blow up the country by damming up progress, it will be time for a strong hand to take over and run things. I think Ted Goon would be good.
 

PokerGuy

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They will be targeting the Hildabeast as well. Maybe even the Pubbies. Their aim isn't to target Bernie, they are attempting to force the Democrat platform to be one issue: Black Lives Matter.

I for one applaud their efforts if that's what they end up doing, it would be one of the few ways the demorats could shoot themselves in the foot and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 

Moonbeam

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But everyone says this.

"If we all agreed to be honest, everyone would side with me."

Your posts doesn't differentiate yourself from all the others who say the same thing just coming in from a different context.

Bernie Sanders gets to say all the great things because it's easy when you are not in a position of authority nor responsibility. It's like Obama and Guantanamo Bay, it's very easy to talk all day long about how we need to close the facility down, it's a whole other ballgame when you are actually tasked with completing it and realizing there are inherent problems blocking the ability to shut the base down.

Sanders right now has it easy because he is a part of a fringe political party (yes, the socialist wing of the Democrats are fringe, they don't have much power in D.C., besides he runs as independent anyways, very few independents in D.C.). Put his group in power, you will see quickly he and the party has flaws in the execution of his ideology just like everyone else.

The problem with the CBD'ive is that they imagine their truthiness to be the equivalent of rational opinion. There is many a slip betwixt cup and lip. It matters most however if your drinking medicine or poison.
 

SlickSnake

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The gal with the foul, loud mouth who rudely commandeered the mic reminded me of this wannabe:

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And my great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee. But I don't go around grandstanding at political events threatening people over it, and identifying as an Indian or a Native American just to stir up trouble where it is not even warranted.

Because #Indianlivesmatter so much more so than the rest of you do, since WE were here on this continent FIRST and stuff. :colbert:
 
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FerrelGeek

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Very good to see you here again, sir!!! Your voice of reason has been sorely missed.

Well well well. Nothing changes. A whole crowd of people who's origin would be relatively easy to determine show their ignorance and once again as I suspected this would be spun as a genius level conspiracy by Republicans. This movement put these people up for it, and in their willful arrogance and purposeful ignorance they shut down the one person who most has their interests at heart. But suppose there is a conspiracy? Who benefits? The Republicans don't fear Bernie, but Hillary might want to deny him a voice. Hillary is ahead with blacks but there is no convincing argument that she is the voice of the people over Sanders.

Oh, hello to my buds here!
 

TheGardener

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And Obama would just say this demagoguery has gotten a bit out of control.

This is actually going to hurt them because of all the candidates running for 2016, Sanders is the most able to help them.

It seems that this time, it's less about ideas to fix country but more about a general protest against the system. If it continues, next year could be very interesting.


If Obama has something to say on this incident, I like to read about it.

Actually I like Bernie, despite having little in common with him politically. Probably because he speaks directly to the issue, rather than to deflect some argument.

I think the protests will continue. If so, I agree that next year and maybe even the remainder of this year, will be interesting. Whether this helps or hurts Hillary I don't know. It could be wash.
 

cubby1223

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The problem with the CBD'ive is that they imagine their truthiness to be the equivalent of rational opinion. There is many a slip betwixt cup and lip. It matters most however if your drinking medicine or poison.

There is no difference in the logic that you use to describe others that cannot also be applied yourself.

All it ever comes down to is which side you believe to be truth versus opinion.

Personally, I choose the path that arbitrarily degrades and dehumanizes the fewer numbers of people :D I may or may not be choosing the truth, but I am choosing the path that provides the better quality of life for myself.


I used to be very annoyed by you. Then I was a little intrigued by you. Now it's just sad. Your views have changed over the past year. Your arguments have changed over the past year. Suggests you are either (A) still searching for the truth (meaning your current revision will change once again given enough time), or (B) interested in a different goal (my guess is attention-seeking, that is a very popular need of people who spend massive time on internet social outlets, but it's just a guess).

Considering you put out a more lectured approach to your arguments than providing an open dialog inviting of various backgrounds to supply input... I'll let others finish that thought however they see fit. I'll only add this, if it is pure truth you seek and to spread, your approach is very unproductive.
 
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