Bernie Sanders running for president

[thraashman]

If the choice were between Bernie Sanders and anyone who would run with an (R) next to their name, then it'd be Bernie getting my vote. I will not give my vote to anyone who lacks empathy which is what the entire Republican party does now. And then there's the Tea Party wing which is what happens when people with severe mental disabilities combined with psychosis get together.

 

[werepossum]

I hope my reply was sufficiently cogent and flat for you. I'll try to withhold any opinions I might have about the typical conservative's appreciation for advanced science like string theory, considering that most don't even accept evolution.

Your reply was fine, although next time you might want to address why states are unable to fund such clinics on their own, yet the federal government can easily take enough money from those same states and then give it back. I guess the magic the federal government adds more than makes up for the additional handling costs, eh?

 

[Jhhnn]

Your reply was fine, although next time you might want to address why states are unable to fund such clinics on their own, yet the federal government can easily take enough money from those same states and then give it back. I guess the magic the federal government adds more than makes up for the additional handling costs, eh?

Maybe it's the same sort of reason that 40% of the Mississippi state budget is federal funds.

Maybe because right wing tax cutting frenzies lead to stuff like this-

http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/nevada-patient-busing/article2577189.html

Providing for the mentally ill is expensive, but bus tickets are cheap, right?

 

[werepossum]

Maybe it's the same sort of reason that 40% of the Mississippi state budget is federal funds.

Maybe because right wing tax cutting frenzies lead to stuff like this-

http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/nevada-patient-busing/article2577189.html

Providing for the mentally ill is expensive, but bus tickets are cheap, right?

I agree, that's a horrible practice.

 

[glenn1]

Maybe it's the same sort of reason that 40% of the Mississippi state budget is federal funds.

Again, can you please figure out if you support or oppose federal spending on things like Medicare/Medicaid and social welfare that serves to funnel money to states? Either celebrate that 40% figure or oppose it, but either way you should own your position and it should be consistent.

Maybe because right wing tax cutting frenzies lead to stuff like this-

http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/nevada-patient-busing/article2577189.html

Providing for the mentally ill is expensive, but bus tickets are cheap, right

You tell us since your beloved Democrats were in charge of the Nevada state Assembly and Senate for the entire time period mentioned in the article you posted. Those "right wing frenzies" are really a bitch when it's Democrats doing them, eh?

 

[werepossum]

Again, can you please figure out if you support or oppose federal spending on things like Medicare/Medicaid and social welfare that serves to funnel money to states? Either celebrate that 40% figure or oppose it, but either way you should own your position and it should be consistent.

You tell us since your beloved Democrats were in charge of the Nevada state Assembly and Senate for the entire time period mentioned in the article you posted. Those "right wing frenzies" are really a bitch when it's Democrats doing them, eh?

I think he's honestly not capable of rationally seeing that. When Republicans do things he dislikes, it's because Republicans are evil. When Democrats do things he dislikes, it's because Republicans are evil.

 

[nickqt]

Again, can you please figure out if you support or oppose federal spending on things like Medicare/Medicaid and social welfare that serves to funnel money to states? Either celebrate that 40% figure or oppose it, but either way you should own your position and it should be consistent.



You tell us since your beloved Democrats were in charge of the Nevada state Assembly and Senate for the entire time period mentioned in the article you posted. Those "right wing frenzies" are really a bitch when it's Democrats doing them, eh?

I think he's honestly not capable of rationally seeing that. When Republicans do things he dislikes, it's because Republicans are evil. When Democrats do things he dislikes, it's because Republicans are evil.

Wow, the projection and cognitive dissonance on display is strong. Nice effort!

Libruuls who are OK with big bad Fed'rul Gub'mint taxing in order to help "moochers and takers" are simply pointing out that Red State shitholes like Mississippi take in a huge amount of big bad Fed'rul Gub'mint money while the politicians and citizens who live there scream and froth at the mouth about the big bad Fed'rul Gub'mint taxing them, when they get back far more than they give in taxes in assorted state and Fed'rul Gub'mint benefits and subsidies.

Pointing out hypocrites and laughing has nothing to do with the cognitive dissonance and projection required to live in the conservative bubble while shouting at mirrors and the shadows cast by those mirrors.

 

[Moonbeam]

The poor and mentally scarred don't vote.

 

[Jhhnn]

Again, can you please figure out if you support or oppose federal spending on things like Medicare/Medicaid and social welfare that serves to funnel money to states? Either celebrate that 40% figure or oppose it, but either way you should own your position and it should be consistent.



You tell us since your beloved Democrats were in charge of the Nevada state Assembly and Senate for the entire time period mentioned in the article you posted. Those "right wing frenzies" are really a bitch when it's Democrats doing them, eh?

While facially correct, that's just the usual blame shifting. Let's evaluate that a little deeper.

Repubs held the state senate from 1993 until 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Senate

The assembly has been Democratic until just recently, 2014.

They've had a Repub governor since 1999.

They have no income or corporate taxes, only property, gaming & sales taxes, all of which went straight to hell in a hand basket in 2008, as did employment. That's in a state with historically low taxes & services.

If the governor won't sign a bill to raise taxes, they have to cut to meet balanced budget requirements & they had to cut the shit out of everything.

If they'd had federal funding for mental health, they wouldn't have needed to cut that, of course, but it's obvious why that doesn't exist, isn't it?

 

[GroundZero7]

Definately. There is no other decent choice.

 

[Jhhnn]

Wow, the projection and cognitive dissonance on display is strong. Nice effort!

Libruuls who are OK with big bad Fed'rul Gub'mint taxing in order to help "moochers and takers" are simply pointing out that Red State shitholes like Mississippi take in a huge amount of big bad Fed'rul Gub'mint money while the politicians and citizens who live there scream and froth at the mouth about the big bad Fed'rul Gub'mint taxing them, when they get back far more than they give in taxes in assorted state and Fed'rul Gub'mint benefits and subsidies.

Pointing out hypocrites and laughing has nothing to do with the cognitive dissonance and projection required to live in the conservative bubble while shouting at mirrors and the shadows cast by those mirrors.

Thank you. I support redistribution of federal funds to poorer states. It's not hypocritical at all to point out that it exists. I see it as necessary if those parts of the country are not to descend into conservative government shitholes.There are already plenty of poor people in this country & I see no point in making it worse.

That's not exactly Free! Freedumb! & Liberty, but that whole ideology speaks for it self when properly phrased.

 

[norseamd]

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[Moonbeam]

Thank you. I support redistribution of federal funds to poorer states. It's not hypocritical at all to point out that it exists. I see it as necessary if those parts of the country are not to descend into conservative government shitholes.There are already plenty of poor people in this country & I see no point in making it worse.

That's not exactly Free! Freedumb! & Liberty, but that whole ideology speaks for it self when properly phrased.

I'm not so sure. My conservative brain says to me you might be engaged in enabling You know about personal responsibility, I would guess, and helping those fools with federal aid that shields them from the consequences of the shit they vote in keeps them so addicted. Cut the aid and they will be forced to vote responsibly or starve. It's called tough love.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I'd vote for him. He may be a bit more to the left than I am personally, but, the problems are dead fucking serious, and Its going to take somebody like him to stop a revolution.

 

[Perknose]

No. From what I've watched from him, he's mostly a rambling old kook. He going nowhere

I didn't really know that much about the guy before moving to VT. Since I've been here I've heard a number of interviews with him on NPR - have to say the guy strikes me as pragmatic, intelligent, communicative, and focused on good governance. Can't say I approve of and support all his positions 100%, but policies aside he's clearly not an empty beholden to political or religious dogma like those across the isle. The good outweighs the bad with him by a large degree IMO, so yeah, I'd give the guy my vote. He's a staunch supporter of the separation of church and state, women's reproductive rights, hates free trade, is serious about education and the well being of children, realizes that fossil fuels need to be phased out, and has a big problem with corporate money being seen as free speech. Sounds pretty good to me, although I disagree on his gun views and some of his votes concerning corporate tax havens and loopholes.

It's funny though, I've witnessed coworkers who count themselves on the right disparage or mock him (nothing I'd call material criticism, just snarky talking points references) - not unlike how I've noticed some regard Elizabeth Warren. When actually hearing the views from the man himself, I'll hear "Damn, right on man!" "Why can't we have politicians like thatinstead of McConnell and Boehner?" "Hope Cruz never has to debate that guy!"

As an intelligent, mature, level headed diplomat I'd probably vote for him despite my differences on some of his views, simply because if the last seven years have shown me anything, it's that there are too many indoctrinated morons in D.C defending their careers and special interests instead of doing their jobs.

:hmm:

 

[Perknose]

Your reply was fine, although next time you might want to address why states are unable to fund such clinics on their own, yet the federal government can easily take enough money from those same states and then give it back. I guess the magic the federal government adds more than makes up for the additional handling costs, eh?

Do you have any life insurance, home owners insurance, car insurance, or private health insurance, and if you voluntarily have any of the above, please explain to us why you do.

Then re-read your answer.

When and if you do, you will be going a long way to understanding the wisdom and mechanics of this federal government "magic" of which you speak.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Here are his political positions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Political_positions

Based on this, I would absolutely vote for him.

 

[TheSlamma]

No. From what I've watched from him, he's mostly a rambling old kook. He going nowhere

But instead you will stay status quo with the typical run we've had for the last 40 years. Wheelers and deals that seem "rational" cause they will put together bills that compromise on everything?

when it comes to US politics it's hilarious what is now considered a "kook" and what is considered "electable"

 

[Subyman]

Too old.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

If he makes it through the primary (which he unfortunately won't) and gets to the general election, he definitely has my vote.

 

[feralkid]

It's funny for all the woe is me socialism we hear about from the right, we actually haven't had anything in the way of a socialist on the national stage for as far back as most of us can remember. Obama is not it, despite claims to the contrary. Sanders is what one would define as an actual Socialist, and I don't think I can name any other American politician in the stratosphere even remotely similar in our time. I think most Americans have probably forgotten what the face of socialism actually is. Do they really think the modern day Democrats are it?

I'll take Boomerang for $100, Alex.

 

[etrigan420]

He like to abort babbies *and* take all the rich ppl's money?

He's got my vote.

(He *does* have my vote...but not necessarily for the above mentioned reasons. Those are just gravy.)

This sums it up for me so far:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/11/opinions/jillette-presidential-candidate-videos/

He seems like he wants to talk about how we should govern ourselves and he knows we can disagree without being evil.

and...

I would vote for Bernie if for no other reason than he didn't offer me hope, and he didn't make me feel that if I voted for him, I would win something. He made me feel like we should talk about government.

in particular.

 

[hal2kilo]

If he makes it through the primary (which he unfortunately won't) and gets to the general election, he definitely has my vote.

Agreed. Will sit out my first presidential election if it's Clinton (for none of the reasons conservatives won't vote for her).

 

[TheSlamma]

Too old.

6 years older than Clinton is all.

5 years younger than John McStain flooring

 

[MovingTarget]

Too old.

I've often wondered why people see this as a negative instead of a positive. Yes, he is old, but he still has his wits and a lot of government experience to boot. The only way that being "too old" should make a difference is that some extra consideration into a VP pick is warranted.