Bernie Sanders running for president

[Moonbeam]

That's why he's going nowhere. The far left isn't that strong. They can keep Hillary grounded as center left instead of sideling too many conservative policies, other than that they will have little influence.

I'd much rather see Warren in there then him, but in the end I can't seem them being able to broadly appeal to the center esp given the GOP has vacated in their hard shift to the right. Too many votes there for a pragmatic centrist

Then we will rot and die or rot and revolt. That's pragmatic. You are going to die and there is nothing you can do, so why bother to live. To be or not to be, that is the question. Are you one to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them, or crawl into your rationalization hole. What you call pragmatism, I call the apathy of the hopeless. You can't even confront the actual situation honestly. We have no choice. We evolve or we die. Get your practical ass out of the way.

 

[Moonbeam]

we already have a out and out fool in the whiteHouse. you really want to do that again??

You should try to understand why you feel like a filthy swine. That knowledge could help you stop acting out that part. Most people can't differentiate between somebody like you who acts like a filthy swine only because that's how they feel and they will react out of that ignorance and see you as one forgetting entirely that we are all the same. When you shit of the god within you the shit goes all over your face. Go and learn feel the suffering you were made to feel. It will heal you. Somewhere there is a guitar that gently weeps for you.

 

[Jhhnn]

Years ago I used to get irritated by moons penchant for online personality analysis. After becoming more familiar with moon, I became ambivalent to it. More recently, the CBD issue in particular rubbed me the wrong way, initially, but after seeing those enraged by it basically double down and act in agreement with the premise, I guess I'm ok with it.

I feel that kind of exposure, albeit probably evident only to those who actually read the stuff and keep track of it, is doing a pretty good job of illustrating to others "Here, this is what stupidity and dishonesty look like, this is why thinking is important." People who support a lot of what I feel is wrong with the country today advertising the limits of their integrity, compassion and knowledge (with gusto I might add) is a net positive IMO. As a bonus, they're pretty funny at times doing so. Laughter is good for everyone.

Dunno, Kage. I wasn't very charitable w/ that post, for which I apologize to Boomerang. It's just that labeling in lieu of analysis gets to me.

We all have our blind spots, ways of thinking that we don't understand. It's like how our brain fills in our mental image where the optic nerve attaches to the retina.

We all do it with our attitudes & beliefs. And we all use feedback & information to various degrees to form what we hope is an accurate image of the world around us, often not realizing that those attitudes & beliefs actually shape our perception. Righties don't really examine the things that shape their beliefs. They rather accept their own belief as axiomatic dogma, mistake that for principles.

 

[Sonikku]

And they're off.

I wonder which is more inclined to have America's interests at heart? :hmm:

 

[Thebobo]

If he had a chance of winning yes

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

Could be a contender for "Has the nomination in the bag" Hillary if 2008 was any indication. Seems like a very different kind of candidate compared to everyone else on the field.

Fuck YES I would.

Anyone that announces their presidency on a complete whim, doesn't care about some stupid fucking university stadium presentation, and basically ends with "Alright I don't have much time here, I got somewhere to be"... which is code for "I have shit to do, fuck this pussy footing bullshit that everyone else does" is a FUCKING WINNER and exactly what I want for a president. I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

But he's old. It doesn't bother me one bit, but dumb bitch and retarded frat boy isn't going to vote for him because he isn't Kim Kardashian. Go figure.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Bernie? It's unfortunate that Bernie is really too old for the job of President. He's 74, iirc.

Liberal logic of thinking at it's finest. Only someone COMPLETELY retarded can say someone is too old for presidency.

Age plays no factor other than stupid people judging them based on it.

 

[Strk]

Liberal logic of thinking at it's finest. Only someone COMPLETELY retarded can say someone is too old for presidency.

Age plays no factor other than stupid people judging them based on it.

It really shouldn't.

This seems fairly relevant

 

[werepossum]

I can't imagine the Pubbies nominating someone so heinous that I would vote for a socialist, but I fear underestimating them.

 

[bryanl]

An independent asks: Why does the most extreme Democrat running for the presidency seem far more normal than any of the Republican candidates?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yes

Hi M, just swung by to say hello to you, but I saw this. I'll probably register Democrat from independent this time around to vote for Bernie.

Hillary the Chameleon will listen to what Bernie has to say then when she has power she'll fuck over the progressives because that's what Democrats do. I might go for warren, but I think Jeb is more principled than Hillary and I won't vote for either.

Hope you are well!

 

[boomerang]

It will be interesting to hear what Sanders has to say or what he doesn't have to say about Hillary. She is his antithesis. We'll see just how serious he is.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...oing_to_speak_about_the_wealthy_clintons.html

 

[dank69]

It will be interesting to hear what Sanders has to say or what he doesn't have to say about Hillary. She is his antithesis. We'll see just how serious he is.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...oing_to_speak_about_the_wealthy_clintons.html

Can you explain to me why the author says that if he attacks the Kochs but not Soros it would be class warfare? I could understand how it might be considered partisan, but class warfare?

 

[Sonikku]

It's funny for all the woe is me socialism we hear about from the right, we actually haven't had anything in the way of a socialist on the national stage for as far back as most of us can remember. Obama is not it, despite claims to the contrary. Sanders is what one would define as an actual Socialist, and I don't think I can name any other American politician in the stratosphere even remotely similar in our time. I think most Americans have probably forgotten what the face of socialism actually is. Do they really think the modern day Democrats are it?

 

[MongGrel]

Probably not, but it's still a long ways off.

I'd vote for him over anything GOP I imagine.

I don't even understand how he can run in the Democratic primaries when he's not, in fact, a Democrat.

Charlie Christ down here in Florida is a good example of that, people switch parties that are centrist now and then.

Do they really think the modern day Democrats are it?

Many do, I'm actually a pretty conservative Democrat myself.

If he's serious, and it sounds he is, could be an interesting election year.

 

[MongGrel]

And they're off.

I wonder which is more inclined to have America's interests at heart? :hmm:

Well, I used to be in the Machinist/Aerospace Union, before Honeywell busted up the local one I was in and I make much less now and spent years finding a decent job again, I guess I can see where this going.

Those damned Unions and there massive amount of influence.



That chart in general says a lot about what has happened to the middle class in the last 45 years, and that's not even the GOP.

Reagan started the demise, with the Trickle Down crap.

It never worked, but somehow they get people to swallow that shit.

It's dramatically worse on that side I'm sure.



Unions are like bringing a knife to a gunfight these days, they phase them out wherever they can, and why manufacturing has been getting screwed for decades.

People that bitch about them then wonder why the upper class has grown progressively richer and income inequality has went out the window when wages have been basically stagnant for decades or just dropping non stop while productivity has increased many fold amaze me.

 

[MongGrel]

Can you explain to me why the author says that if he attacks the Kochs but not Soros it would be class warfare? I could understand how it might be considered partisan, but class warfare?

The US has turned into an Oligarchy, someone should do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

I'm not a prosaic as Moonbeam, I suppose.

 

[Strk]

It's funny for all the woe is me socialism we hear about from the right, we actually haven't had anything in the way of a socialist on the national stage for as far back as most of us can remember. Obama is not it, despite claims to the contrary. Sanders is what one would define as an actual Socialist, and I don't think I can name any other American politician in the stratosphere even remotely similar in our time. I think most Americans have probably forgotten what the face of socialism actually is. Do they really think the modern day Democrats are it?

Considering all Fox News spouts is that Democrats are socialist, I'm thinking they do not.

 

[Jhhnn]

Liberal logic of thinking at it's finest. Only someone COMPLETELY retarded can say someone is too old for presidency.

Age plays no factor other than stupid people judging them based on it.

Don't get me wrong- I'll be 66 this week. I have no doubts as to Bernie's abilities. Being president is an extremely demanding job. Take a look at before & after pics of the last 3 (including Obama) to understand what I'm talking about.

He's fought the good fight for a long while & I would vote for him over anybody beholden to the Koch bros & the Teatards should he gain the nomination.

It just seems a bit much to ask of him, that's all. He'll be 83 in 2024 at the end of two terms & I really want a two term Democrat.

 

[MongGrel]

This was a real socialist.

Franklin D. Roosevelt


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt

People seem to forget history these days.

That was a real President.

Hell, the guy even repealed Prohibition.

You could have a drink legally again.

Seemed to be a lot of Executive Orders involved there at the time there also.

The GOP has been trashing the country ever since.

The guy even repealed Prohibition, so you could have a drink legally again.

Hard to argue about that one, I think.

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[MyAcct]

No

 

[boomerang]

The GOP has been trashing the country ever since.

I'm sure the residents of Detroit (53 years under Democrat rule) and Baltimore (48 years under Democrat rule) would agree with you.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm sure the residents of Detroit (53 years under Democrat rule) and Baltimore (48 years under Democrat rule) would agree with you.

Both were heavy industry cities that had manufacturing at one point.
D's & R's are responsible for manufacturing disappearing.

 

[Vic]

I'm sure the residents of Detroit (53 years under Democrat rule) and Baltimore (48 years under Democrat rule) would agree with you.

What about the Democrats' "rule" of wealthy cities like San Francisco, Seattle, New York, Boston, etc.?
And wasn't net neutrality supposed to make that kind of talk illegal by now?
Seriously, if you quit regurgitating these spoon fed talking points, you'd quit looking so stupid.

 

[Vic]

Both were heavy industry cities that had manufacturing at one point.
D's & R's are responsible for manufacturing disappearing.

The manufacturing disappeared because it was cheaper for industry to do it elsewhere. Neither party could have kept them there even if they tried. You simply cannot sustain a wealthy, advanced society on a backbone of low skilled manufacturing jobs.