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Blue_Max

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Snopes has valid sources for every fact in that rebuttal. Sorry, but a smear article from right wing rag does not negate a well sourced debunking of a myth.

Would you care to address the individual facts? Or are logical fallacies all you have?

...considering that you're using the fallacy that Snopes is still the measure of accuracy it once was, but is now exclusively one-sided...
Believe what you want, I don't care. Nothing's going to convince you otherwise anyway - much like how many of the women in France and Germany still side with their new muslim "friends" no matter how many of them are beaten and raped.
 

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...considering that you're using the fallacy that Snopes is still the measure of accuracy it once was, but is now exclusively one-sided...
Believe what you want, I don't care. Nothing's going to convince you otherwise anyway - much like how many of the women in France and Germany still side with their new muslim "friends" no matter how many of them are beaten and raped.

I see you're uninterested in addressing the facts, and rather stick with your preconceived narrative. I understand your identity is based on it and facts contradicting it do nothing but strengthen your resolve to hold onto them, rather than force you to change your worldview to fit the facts.

But here's the thing:

Facts don't care what you believe.

And the fact is, there is no ban, nor check in Japan on Muslims or their immigration. Period. And you cannot produce a valid source to claim otherwise.

So cling to your beliefs in the fact of facts. Deny the facts to hold onto your worldview. I don't care.
 

Blue_Max

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I see you're uninterested in addressing the facts, and rather stick with your preconceived narrative. I understand your identity is based on it and facts contradicting it do nothing but strengthen your resolve to hold onto them, rather than force you to change your worldview to fit the facts.

But here's the thing:

Facts don't care what you believe.

And the fact is, there is no ban, nor check in Japan on Muslims or their immigration. Period. And you cannot produce a valid source to claim otherwise.

So cling to your beliefs in the fact of facts. Deny the facts to hold onto your worldview. I don't care.

......miiiiight want to speak to some Japanese people on the subject then, since they'll tell you about how they care deeply for preserving Japanese culture and are extremely resistant to outside influences/people of most kinds. THOSE are "facts".

Marxist lefties just make up their own "facts" out of thin air, then call everyone "evil" and/or "stupid" for not believing their bullsh*t.
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Amused

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......miiiiight want to speak to some Japanese people on the subject then, since they'll tell you about how they care deeply for preserving Japanese culture and are extremely resistant to outside influences/people of most kinds. THOSE are "facts".

Marxist lefties just make up their own "facts" out of thin air, then call everyone "evil" and/or "stupid" for not believing their bullsh*t.

Please produce a single valid source disproving Snopes' well sourced evidence that the Japanese in no way actively screen, or deny immigration based on being Muslim.

You would do well to read this article. I describes what you're doing right now perfectly.

It's long, but very well sourced.

"Once something is added to your collection of beliefs, you protect it from harm. You do it instinctively and unconsciously when confronted with attitude-inconsistent information. Just as confirmation bias shields you when you actively seek information, the backfire effect defends you when the information seeks you, when it blindsides you. Coming or going, you stick to your beliefs instead of questioning them. When someone tries to correct you, tries to dilute your misconceptions, it backfires and strengthens them instead. Over time, the backfire effect helps make you less skeptical of those things which allow you to continue seeing your beliefs and attitudes as true and proper."
 
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Blue_Max

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"Once something is added to your collection of beliefs, you protect it from harm. You do it instinctively and unconsciously when confronted with attitude-inconsistent information. Just as confirmation bias shields you when you actively seek information, the backfire effect defends you when the information seeks you, when it blindsides you. Coming or going, you stick to your beliefs instead of questioning them. When someone tries to correct you, tries to dilute your misconceptions, it backfires and strengthens them instead. Over time, the backfire effect helps make you less skeptical of those things which allow you to continue seeing your beliefs and attitudes as true and proper."

Take a goooooooood long look in the mirror. We see your Marxist pals in here doing this all day, every day.

...and despite how low the numbers of muslims are in Japan, here they are making a ruckus as they so often do:
 

raildogg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBDegj7WeyE

Alex Jones^^

Check out the comments section.

These are the angry guys voting for guys like Trump, etc. They're supposedly itching to fight those evil "Muslims."

What a joke of a world. Bunch of hypocrites. They could care less when the Muslims are literally removed from their lands by the Western governments through invasions but they whine like little children when these supposed attacks happen. How come they get angry when one supposed Muslim does this yet don't get upset when thousands of foreign Western troops invade Muslim countries?

Reminds us of the past time. When the colonizers would savagely attack Native tribes across North America and then would cry when the Natives retaliated. Of course they used this as an excuse to literally wipe them off their own lands (but that's another topic for another day).
 
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Amused

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Take a goooooooood long look in the mirror. We see your Marxist pals in here doing this all day, every day.

...and despite how low the numbers of muslims are in Japan, here they are making a ruckus as they so often do:

And yet, you haven't disproven a single thing Snopes said. Nor have you proven any part of the claim that Japan limits or restricts immigrants based on religion.

My Marxist pals. That would be quite interesting as I am, for the most part, libertarian. And a 20 year retired Army veteran to boot.

If the facts don't fit your narrative, they must be a marxist conspiracy? Really?

Get a grip. You sound like a religious fundamentalist and your denial of facts are not what freedom and liberty are all about. It's more akin to book burning and fascism.
 
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postmortemIA

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Marxist lefties just make up their own "facts" out of thin air, then call everyone "evil" and/or "stupid" for not believing their bullsh*t.
Leftist might be liberal, but surely thy are not Marxist. Perhaps you like to use term Marxism to insult people?
Let's say that liberals live in big cities that are insanely expensive, and they have good salaries and their homes are worth millions. And only chosen few can actually afford to live in these homes... There's nothing Marxist about that, in fact it would be what Marx would criticize as inability of capitalism to support the population.
 

desura

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And yet, you haven't disproven a single thing Snopes said. Nor have you proven any part of the claim that Japan limits or restricts immigrants based on religion.

My Marxist pals. That would be quite interesting as I am, for the most part, libertarian. And a 20 year retired Army veteran to boot.

If the facts don't fit your narrative, they must be a marxist conspiracy? Really?

Get a grip. You sound like a religious fundamentalist and your denial of facts are not what freedom and liberty are all about. It's more akin to book burning and fascism.

Snopes is right in a very narrow sense in bashing a strawman.

But Snopes is misleading and wrong on the broader point.

100k Muslims in Japan = 0.8% of the population. Not even 1%.
 

Amused

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Snopes is right in a very narrow sense in bashing a strawman.

But Snopes is misleading and wrong on the broader point.

100k Muslims in Japan = 0.8% of the population. Not even 1%.

Strawman? They directly address each claim in the meme you obviously saw and believed in your echochamber of a newsfeed.

1%? Get this, the Muslim population in nearly all western countries is in the single digit percentages, despite all the xenophobic manufactured hysteria that they're taking over and going to force Sharia Law on everyone.

Japan has no limits on immigration based on religion. False statement is false.

Move on.
 

desura

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Strawman? They directly address each claim in the meme you obviously saw and believed in your echochamber of a newsfeed.

1%? Get this, the Muslim population in nearly all western countries is in the single digit percentages, despite all the xenophobic manufactured hysteria that they're taking over and going to force Sharia Law on everyone.

Japan has no limits on immigration based on religion. False statement is false.

Move on.

Japan has an across-the-board limit on immigration, period. They don't need to single out Islam because they don't let anyone immigrate, practically.

France has 11% Muslims, and it has suffered some of the worst terrorism in just five years. Paris attack, 100+ dead, Nice attack, 80+ dead. Charlie Hebdo. You know what is the worst thing about Charlie Hebdo? Many Muslims wouldn't even say Je Suis Charlie. They approved of the attack.

Japan hasn't suffered any of that, and that is in large part because it simply doesn't have that many Muslims.

And sharia law, another strawman. I've never said anything about sharia law. I'm focused pretty much entirely on the tendency of Muslims to commit acts of terrorism against random people in public areas, and how the mainstream tacitly approves of such violence.
 

greatnoob

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Snopes is right in a very narrow sense in bashing a strawman.

But Snopes is misleading and wrong on the broader point.

100k Muslims in Japan = 0.8% of the population. Not even 1%.

Strawman? Learn what it means first before using it, retard.

...considering that you're using the fallacy that Snopes is still the measure of accuracy it once was, but is now exclusively one-sided...
Believe what you want, I don't care. Nothing's going to convince you otherwise anyway - much like how many of the women in France and Germany still side with their new muslim "friends" no matter how many of them are beaten and raped.
LOL, please name the fallacy.

Take a goooooooood long look in the mirror. We see your Marxist pals in here doing this all day, every day.

...and despite how low the numbers of muslims are in Japan, here they are making a ruckus as they so often do:



You've turned a blind eye to FACTS that disproves your alt-right's laughable theory about Muslim immigration in Japan. Instead, you've linked an opinion piece which parrots the same thing retards like you do when they're cornered (you're doing it right now), "they are leftists so their facts should not be trusted" (lol).

Answer this for him: "Please produce a single valid source disproving Snopes' well sourced evidence that the Japanese in no way actively screen, or deny immigration based on being Muslim."

You two dumbcunts are in such a high state of cognitive dissonance that you don't even understand what you're even arguing about anymore.
 

raildogg

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Japan has an across-the-board limit on immigration, period. They don't need to single out Islam because they don't let anyone immigrate, practically.

France has 11% Muslims, and it has suffered some of the worst terrorism in just five years. Paris attack, 100+ dead, Nice attack, 80+ dead. Charlie Hebdo. You know what is the worst thing about Charlie Hebdo? Many Muslims wouldn't even say Je Suis Charlie. They approved of the attack.

Japan hasn't suffered any of that, and that is in large part because it simply doesn't have that many Muslims.

And sharia law, another strawman. I've never said anything about sharia law. I'm focused pretty much entirely on the tendency of Muslims to commit acts of terrorism against random people in public areas, and how the mainstream tacitly approves of such violence.
Please tell us how much civilian deaths are at the hands of the Western governments in the Middle East compared to the so-called terrorist attacks "supposedly" carried out by the Muslims here in the West.

You mention random attacks by these supposed Muslims. Aside from the corporate owned media spreading hate, what makes these men Muslim? Is it because they are pledging allegiance to ISIS by watching some of their videos on the internet? How absurd is this. Your telling me that these people are becoming "radicalized" (another BS term invented by the media) by watching some online garbage videos?

France or most Western countries have no right preaching about human dignity at all. Bunch of hypocrites.

Remember, we all get what we deserve. Good or bad. Look into what these Western countries have done in their history and maybe you can understand where we are today. But no, let's hate on these evil Muslims all day like your media and politicians want.
 
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desura

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Japan is one of the most xenophobic countries on Earth. Like, take a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MylcdLMuPcc

Please tell us how much civilian deaths are at the hands of the Western governments in the Middle East compared to the so-called terrorist attacks "supposedly" carried out by the Muslims here in the West.

Also, please don't being up France when it comes to human rights or justice. France or most Western countries have no right preaching about human dignity at all. Bunch of hypocrites.

You're equivocating. Typical. It doesn't matter what the disparity is. Terrorism is utterly unacceptable and a government's responsibility is to reduce it. It doesn't matter to the victims of Muslim terrorism that there are drone attacks. This shouldn't be happening at all.
 

raildogg

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Of course there shouldn't be terrorism at all. Just like any other sin or crime or act of violence.

We should not pick and choose who we go after.

Since humans are extremely biased, tribal and simple minded creatures, they tend to stick with their own kind and demonize the "other" while ignoring the situation as a whole.
 

greatnoob

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Japan is one of the most xenophobic countries on Earth. Like, take a look at this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MylcdLMuPcc



You're equivocating. Typical. It doesn't matter what the disparity is. Terrorism is utterly unacceptable and a government's responsibility is to reduce it. It doesn't matter to the victims of Muslim terrorism that there are drone attacks. This shouldn't be happening at all.


Jesus Christ, you've lost it. You don't even know what you're discussing anymore. You're best off (in your own words) "bashing a strawman," and throwing random words around hoping nobody realises you're a clueless fvck.
 

desura

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Of course there shouldn't be terrorism at all. Just like any other sin or crime or act of violence.

We should not pick and choose who we go after.

Since humans are extremely biased, tribal and simple minded creatures, they tend to stick with their own kind and demonize the "other" while ignoring the situation as a whole.

It is pretty clear that terrorism is coming from the Muslim community.

And muslims are human too. They are biased, tribal, simple, and they demonize the other, being us, as well. This is why they go on terroristic rampages against us.

As such, it is pretty clear to me that immigration from those areas needs to be halted to keep the problem from getting worse. The more muslims who immigrate, the more terrorist attacks there will be, which will result in more counter-attacks in muslim lands, which will just drive more hostility.

I call them Muslim nationalists btw because the terrorists who attack are acting like nationalists on behalf of a broader muslim ummah. So even though there is the excuse that ISIS members aren't the best scholars, it really doesn't matter. They are committing violence because of their self-identification as Muslims.
 

greatnoob

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It is pretty clear that terrorism is coming from the Muslim community.

And muslims are human too. They are biased, tribal, simple, and they demonize the other, being us, as well. This is why they go on terroristic rampages against us.

As such, it is pretty clear to me that immigration from those areas needs to be halted to keep the problem from getting worse. The more muslims who immigrate, the more terrorist attacks there will be, which will result in more counter-attacks in muslim lands, which will just drive more hostility.

I call them Muslim nationalists btw because the terrorists who attack are acting like nationalists on behalf of a broader muslim ummah. So even though there is the excuse that ISIS members aren't the best scholars, it really doesn't matter. They are committing violence because of their self-identification as Muslims.

By chance, are you a mentally challenged 15 year old? You might as well phrase it like this instead of trying really hard to sound like you know what you're on about: Muslims = terrorists = bad. Keep terrorist out of Merica = make US happy place, yay! I wouldn't expect anything more from a simpleton..
 

werepossum

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This is a terrible tragedy, and right off the bat people are being jerks about it with their replies. Sigh.
Well said.

No one is making up the very real terrorist attacks which have occurred this past year.

And terrorism is akin to a hate crime. It cannot be analogized to bath tub slips.
Also well said.

Yeah, no. You are projecting your own liberal ideals onto this group. Liberals like to blame everything on poverty and the solution to everything is redistribution.

People join ISIS because it appeals to Islamic ideals. Simple as that. Poor people engage in petty crime. Islamic terrorists are often comfortably middle class.
And again, damned well said.
 

greatnoob

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Well said.


Also well said.


And again, damned well said.


Woah mate that's a lot of well-saids and not a whole lot to add or disagree on, are you jacking off to your comrade's ignorance? Hint: There's a like button, smack it as if it's your wife and then feel free to jerk off at your own time
 

werepossum

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Religion of blowing people into itty bitty pieces. (Fixed it for you.)
That's completely unfair, dude.

They also enjoy hacking people into big pieces, stoning them to death, burning them alive, and combining pass times, such as building a wall, setting it on fire, and then toppling it onto the sinner. You shouldn't pigeon hole them like that. ;)
 

werepossum

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Woah mate that's a lot of well-saids and not a whole lot to add or disagree on, are you jacking off to your comrade's ignorance? Hint: There's a like button, smack it as if it's your wife and then feel free to jerk off at your own time
Um . . . thank you for your interest in my penis and its happiness, I suppose.

Now piss off.
 

greatnoob

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Um . . . thank you for your interest in my penis and its happiness, I suppose.

Now piss off.

"then feel free to jerk off at your own time," doesn't sound like interest..

You are one delusional pervert. Is that the lie you tell yourself after you've raped your victims, that they were interested? Disgusting.