Berkeley people against Free Speech again!

Iwentsouth

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Daily Cals Stolen, Replaced With Protester Fliers
Fliers Call for Daily Cal Boycott


Approximately 1,000 copies of The Daily Californian were stolen from newspaper racks on Sproul Plaza Wednesday, apparently in response to an advertisement titled "End States Who Sponsor Terrorism," paid for by the Ayn Rand Institute.

In place of the newspapers were fliers that called for a boycott of the Daily Cal and alleged the Oct. 23 ad is "irrational and inflammatory," and said that it perpetuated hostility against the Iranian community.


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I guess only people who think like they do at Berkeley are entitled to free speech. Hypocrites!

"End States Who Sponsor Terrorism"

you can read the article if you like. Nobody is forcing it down your throat. What next? Is Berkeley going to star tburning books?
 

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<< perpetuated hostility against the Iranian community >>

So they assume that all Iranians are terriorists? It's like assuming all Germans in the 1930s were Nazis. One of the best schools in the country ... for drugs.
 

jehh

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<< perpetuated hostility against the Iranian community >>

So they assume that all Iranians are terriorists? It's like assuming all Germans in the 1930s were Nazis. One of the best schools in the country ... for drugs.
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Never underestimate the power of human stupidity...

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Jason
 

Robert01

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<< Never underestimate the power of human stupidity... >>

Sounds like an advertisement for "Forest Gump" ;)
 

tcsenter

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<< UC Berkeley is a taxpayer funded Academic Taliban! >>

LMFAO!! heehee, that's almost true.

The left has a nasty habit of doing this sort of stuff on college campuses. They ferociously protect their free speech, but when it comes to the free speech of counter opinions, they show their true Stalin-Leninist ambitions by attempting to silence opinions they don't like. I remember attending some fruity-looped 'tolerance' rally one night at college, and two days later the same people who put-on the 'tolerance' rally barged-in a room en force and shouted down the guest speaker because they didn't agree with his opinions. There were only two dozen of them, skinny losers with whale-hugging shirts and the like, but they were the most abnoxious and loud two dozen people I've ever heard. They closed the event down because there was no shouting over them, then they celebrated as if to be completely oblivious to their own brazen hypocrisy.

 

FrontlineWarrior

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hmmm I'd be more upset if it wasn't the Ayn Rand institute. Ayn Rand is a nut and I can't imagine anyone in an institute named after her would be any better.
 

IBuyUFO

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some people are just too stupid to realize they ARE stupid! These freak protestors want free speech, civil liberty and yada yada but they only like it when it's convenient to them.
 

tcsenter

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<< hmmm I'd be more upset if it wasn't the Ayn Rand institute. Ayn Rand is a nut and I can't imagine anyone in an institute named after her would be any better. >>

Huh? I take it you've never read Atlas Shrugged?

From an Objectivist Ayn Rand Bio:

"Millions of people have read Ayn Rand's work, especially her novels, and many have found them to be a great source of personal inspiration. Her focus on reason and individualism appeals to many people, some of whom have adopted her specific philosophical ideas as their own. Even among those who do not accept her philosophy as a whole, there are still many who find inspiration and support. Conservatives applaud her anti-communism. Libertarians appreciate her anti-statism. Young people respond to her idealism. Women appreciate her strong-minded (and sexually liberated) heroines. Non-conformists like her defense of individualism. Etc. These are all generalizations, of course. The specific things that Rand's readers take from her work vary. Rarely, however, does one go away from her work without some strong reaction -- even if it is a negative reaction."

A excerpt from her famous testimony about the movie Song of Russia at the McCarthy hearings:

Rand: Incidentally, I must say at this point that I understand from correspondents who have left Russia and been there later than I was and from people who escaped from there later than I did that the time I saw it, which was in 1926, was the best time since the Russian revolution. At that time conditions were a little better than they have become since. In my time we were a bunch of ragged, starved, dirty, miserable people who had only two thoughts in our mind. That was our complete terror -- afraid to look at one another, afraid to say anything for fear of who is listening and would report us -- and where to get the next meal. You have no idea what it means to live in a country where nobody has any concern except food, where all the conversation is about food because everybody is so hungry that that is all they can think about and that is all they can afford to do. They have no idea of politics. They have no idea of any pleasant romances or love-nothing but food and fear. That is what I saw up to 1926. That is not what the picture shows.

Now, after this tour of Moscow, the hero -- the American conductor -- goes to the Soviet village. The Russian villages are something -- so miserable and so filthy. They were even before the revolution. They weren't much even then. What they have become now I am afraid to think. You have all read about the program for the collectivization of the farms in 1933, at which time the Soviet Government admits that three million peasants died of starvation. Other people claim there were seven and a half million, but three million is the figure admitted by the Soviet Government as the figure of people who died of starvation, planned by the government in order to drive people into collective farms. That is a recorded historical fact.

Now, here is the life in the Soviet village as presented in Song of Russia. You see the happy peasants. You see they are meeting the hero at the station with bands, with beautiful blouses and shoes, such as they never wore anywhere. You see children with operetta costumes on them and with a brass band which they could never afford. You see the manicured starlets driving tractors and the happy women who come from work singing. You see a peasant at home with a close-up of food for which anyone there would have been murdered. If anybody had such food in Russia in that time he couldn't remain alive, because he would have been torn apart by neighbors trying to get food. But here is a close-up of it and a line where Robert Taylor comments on the food and the peasant answers, "This is just a simple country table and the food we eat ourselves."

Then the peasant proceeds to show Taylor how they live. He shows him his wonderful tractor. It is parked somewhere in his private garage. He shows him the grain in his bin, and Taylor says, "That is wonderful grain." Now, it is never said that the peasant does not own this tractor or this grain because it is a collective farm. He couldn't have it. It is not his. But the impression he gives to Americans, who wouldn't know any differently, is that certainly it is this peasant's private property, and that is how he lives, he has his own tractor and his own grain. Then it shows miles and miles of plowed fields.

Stripling: Miss Rand, may I bring up one point there?

Rand: Surely.

Stripling: I saw the picture. At this peasant's village or home, was there a priest or several priests in evidence?

Rand: Oh, yes; I am coming to that, too. The priest was from the beginning in the village scenes, having a position as sort of a constant companion and friend of the peasants, as if religion was a natural accepted part of that life. Well, now, as a matter of fact, the situation about religion in Russia in my time was, and I understand it still is, that for a Communist Party member to have anything to do with religion means expulsion from the party. He is not allowed to enter a church or take part in any religious ceremony. For a private citizen, that is a nonparty member, it was permitted, but it was so frowned upon that people had to keep it secret, if they went to church. If they wanted a church wedding they usually had it privately in their homes, with only a few friends present, in order not to let it be known at their place of employment because, even though it was not forbidden, the chances were that they would be thrown out of a job for being known as practicing any kind of religion.

Testimony before HUAC hearings
 

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monto

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the majority of the campus/students have nothing to do with all this anti-war stuff, of the ~25-28K students, a good portion live in the city, but a great many thousand live in surrouding communities. so basically if 50-70% of the students reside in Berkeley, that's ~12,500 of a total Berkeley population of over 102,000. what i'm trying to say is, we students don't make up anything close to the majority in influencing city decisions or the sort...

when the city council voted that 5-4 to support ending the war, I and many fellow students I spoke to were as equally baffled as fellow ATOTers were here. a few hundred students, yes, have pronounced anti-war efforts in demonstrations and whatnot, but they are in no way representative of the whole student body. i'm certain there are more, way more (at least a dozen fold) more supporters of the anti-terrorism efforts than supporters of ending the bombings