Benham Brothers Speak Out on HGTV Show Being Canned: We're Committed to Biblical Prin

[MasterOfUsers]

Once more, pay attention. I already said HGTV can so whatever they like. Lets just pretend it's just this case, and not Chic-fil-a, Firefox and other cases where the totalitarian left has pushed an agenda against people guilty of nothing more than expressing a marriage view they don't agree with.

Oh, it's the "totalitarian left" pushing agendas is it?

How is a capitalist network like HGTV looking out for their own best interests leftist?

Type slowly because i'm real stupid when it comes to these things.

How about if they expressed blatant racist viewpoints and said that Brigham was right?

Would that be a totalitarian left move to exclude them then or is it only ok to protest homosexuals and not black people? You can derive either from faith but neither from anything Jesus ever said.

 

[Vic]

Once more, pay attention. I already said HGTV can so whatever they like. Lets just pretend it's just this case, and not Chic-fil-a, Firefox and other cases where the totalitarian left has pushed an agenda against people guilty of nothing more than expressing a marriage view they don't agree with.

Nice diversion, but that's not what's happening here. This is about a couple of totalitarian righties who want to make homosexuality a crime again (among other things).
You should go back and click on the link to their website and check out who you're defending before you stick your foot any further into your mouth. I recommend looking at their brochures. Good stuff.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Nice diversion, but that's not what's happening here. This is about a couple of totalitarian righties who want to make homosexuality a crime again (among other things).
You should go back and click on the link to their website and check out who you're defending before you stick your foot any further into your mouth. I recommend looking at their brochures. Good stuff.

Seriously... they were arguing against porn.

It surprises me that anyone on the internet can agree with them.

I mean..... we all got broadband because of porn, right? *crickets*

Oh come one you guys... i can't be the only one.

 

[DrDoug]

Its funny how the Dixie Chicks are your go to example. Yeah, they lost their jobs and had their careers ruined. Oh wait, no they didn't. Meanwhile you totalitians tried to railroad a plumber -just an average person- for daring to ask your dear leader a question.

Are you talking about the guy who wasn't named Joe and who wasn't a plumber? The guy who said he had a plumbing business and when called on it said that he would have opened a plumbing business but...? Last time I checked Ol' Joe the not plumber is doing quite well and still collecting cash from the Wingnut Welfare Circuit.

Speaking of zealots attacking innocent people, how's Shirley Sherrod doing these days?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Seriously... they were arguing against porn.

It surprises me that anyone on the internet can agree with them.

I mean..... we all got broadband because of porn, right? *crickets*

Oh come one you guys... i can't be the only one.

What is this porn thing you speak of?

 

[BoomerD]

Are you talking about the guy who wasn't named Joe and who wasn't a plumber? The guy who said he had a plumbing business and when called on it said that he would have opened a plumbing business but...? Last time I checked Ol' Joe the not plumber is doing quite well and still collecting cash from the Wingnut Welfare Circuit.

Speaking of zealots attacking innocent people, how's Shirley Sherrod doing these days?

You mean Joe the not-a-Plumber...who got a good-paying UAW union job working for Chrysler...thanks to the republican-hated auto bail-out?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/02/18/joe-the-plumber-gets-a-new-job/

 

[michal1980]

Nice diversion, but that's not what's happening here. This is about a couple of totalitarian righties who want to make homosexuality a crime again (among other things).
You should go back and click on the link to their website and check out who you're defending before you stick your foot any further into your mouth. I recommend looking at their brochures. Good stuff.

whats going on here is the gay lobby is blackballing everyone that doesn't tow their agenda.

HGTV was 'told' by rightwingwatch and that spin machine about the beliefs of these two guys and then HGTV folded to them.

This is nothing more then a witch hunt on those that don't agree with gay marriage. You know that little thing that gays kept telling us was a private act, and it would have no impact on anyone else.

 

[K1052]

Nice diversion, but that's not what's happening here. This is about a couple of totalitarian righties who want to make homosexuality a crime again (among other things).
You should go back and click on the link to their website and check out who you're defending before you stick your foot any further into your mouth. I recommend looking at their brochures. Good stuff.

I knew they sounded nuts but reading through their own material they're about one step away from WBC level crazy. There is no way HGTV did a thorough vetting...which I'm sure will be addressed in the future.

 

[alzan]

Seriously... they were arguing against porn.

It surprises me that anyone on the internet can agree with them.

I mean..... we all got broadband because of porn, right? *crickets*

Oh come one you guys... i can't be the only one.

Mmmmm.....porn.

Back on topic; seriously, the Benham twins (and we all know what twins do ) would be better served securing a segment on Pat Robertson's broadcast, or maybe team up with James Dobson's Focus On The Family. At least on those venue's their views would be mainstream to the audience.

 

[Retro Rob]

Mmmmm.....porn.

Back on topic; seriously, the Benham twins (and we all know what twins do ) would be better served securing a segment on Pat Robertson's broadcast, or maybe team up with James Dobson's Focus On The Family. At least on those venue's their views would be mainstream to the audience.

If that's what you really want, you're really advancing a fascist state somewhat.

Look at how people are putting pressure on Nintendo to allow same-sex couples to get married in their own video games.

Why won't people just live with the fact that not everyone sees things the way they do?

So far, they're telling anti-freedom to-not-like-gay-marriage groups to **** off, and rightfully so.

 

[nehalem256]

Mmmmm.....porn.

Back on topic; seriously, the Benham twins (and we all know what twins do ) would be better served securing a segment on Pat Robertson's broadcast, or maybe team up with James Dobson's Focus On The Family. At least on those venue's their views would be mainstream to the audience.

Except for the little fact they aren't trying to run a political show, but one on flipping houses...

 

[Vic]

whats going on here is the gay lobby is blackballing everyone that doesn't tow their agenda.

HGTV was 'told' by rightwingwatch and that spin machine about the beliefs of these two guys and then HGTV folded to them.

This is nothing more then a witch hunt on those that don't agree with gay marriage. You know that little thing that gays kept telling us was a private act, and it would have no impact on anyone else.

When government gets involved, you can call it a witch hunt. Right now, this is a private business making a decision based on public opinion.

 

[CitizenKain]

This is nothing more then a witch hunt on those that don't agree with gay marriage. You know that little thing that gays kept telling us was a private act, and it would have no impact on anyone else.

I know reading is hard for you, but did you even take a single look at what this guy said?

How upset would you be if HGTV cut a show where an avowed white supremacist ran it?

 

[alzan]

If that's what you really want, you're really advancing a fascist state somewhat.

Look at how people are putting pressure on Nintendo to allow same-sex couples to get married in their own video games.

Why won't people just live with the fact that not everyone sees things the way they do?

So far, they're telling anti-freedom to-not-like-gay-marriage groups to **** off, and rightfully so.

Wanting all US citizens to enjoy the right to secure a marriage license is fascist?

Seems like a stupid move by Nintendo to not allow the option, since their sales are dropping. To a certain extent video games reflect the culture and sub-cultures of a society; allowing for a game character to "marry" another character of the same sex is a reflection of certain societies. Were I a Nintendo exec. who was aware of decreased sales, I would certainly urge inclusion of the "same-sex marry" option in the game; at least in those countries where SSM is allowed or moving towards marriage equality.

 

[Retro Rob]

When government gets involved, you can call it a witch hunt. Right now, this is a private business making a decision based on public opinion.

Socially speaking, it is a witch hunt. Gays and their advocates have self-appointed themselves as the PC police, to where something as silly as a video game isn't off their bigoted radars.

All they need to do, which is what they do, is draw negative attention to "exclusionary" content to get the ball rolling and labeling everyone "anti-gay" instead of "pro-traditional" marriage.

The distinction between those two terms are very clear.

 

[Vic]

Except for the little fact they aren't trying to run a political show, but one on flipping houses...

Being crazy isn't a protected class.

 

[Retro Rob]

Wanting all US citizens to enjoy the right to secure a marriage license is fascist?

Seems like a stupid move by Nintendo to not allow the option, since their sales are dropping. To a certain extent video games reflect the culture and sub-cultures of a society; allowing for a game character to "marry" another character of the same sex is a reflection of certain societies. Were I a Nintendo exec. who was aware of decreased sales, I would certainly urge inclusion of the "same-sex marry" option in the game; at least in those countries where SSM is allowed or moving towards marriage equality.

LOL their failing sales have nothing to do with the lack of including gay marriage, so bending to bigots won't change it.

Once they address the issue causing a fall in sales, then the exec should change what he needs to change.

I'm willing to bet gays wouldn't have bought the game anyway, nor straights for that matter because the game just could be bad.

 

[Vic]

Socially speaking, it is a witch hunt. Gays and their advocates have self-appointed themselves as the PC police, to where something as silly as a video game isn't off their bigoted radars.

All they need to do, which is what they do, is draw negative attention to "exclusionary" content to get the ball rolling and labeling everyone "anti-gay" instead of "pro-traditional" marriage.

The distinction between those two terms are very clear.

Let me know when the anti-gay equivalent of HUAC is formed.

This is just public opinion, and private businesses have every right to not employ or otherwise not do business with persons or groups that they consider a risk to their brand reputation.

 

[Retro Rob]

This is just public opinion, and private businesses have every right to not employ or otherwise not do business with persons or groups that they consider a risk to their brand reputation.

No, when people lose their jobs, this isn't just "public opinion" -- companies don't suffer PR hits and decline in ratings over opinions, particularly with label like "homophobe' being tossed around.

And I never disputed that businesses have the right to do business with whomever they choose, so I think you'd also agree that a game manufacture has every right to advocate straight marriage in their games, right?

 

[SlowSpyder]

FTFY,

Stop assuming all Christians have some issue with homosexuals. We don't. Only bigots do.

To me the problem is that the christian dogma does have an issue with homosexuals (and many, many other things that shouldn't matter) and helps breed bigotry.

 

[alzan]

LOL their failing sales have nothing to do with the lack of including gay marriage, so bending to bigots won't change it.

Once they address the issue causing a fall in sales, then the exec should change what he needs to change.

I'm willing to bet gays wouldn't have bought the game anyway, nor straights for that matter because the game just could be bad.

My point was that allowing the option could actually increase their sales. As far as bending to bigots, chances are good that the people who oversaw game development or the developers themselves are bigots.

Not being a fan of life-sim games I couldn't say. I would be willing to bet that you would lose your money; people buy and play video games to have fun, having fun cuts across all lines including sexual orientation.

 

[Retro Rob]

My point was that allowing the option could actually increase their sales. As far as bending to bigots, chances are good that the people who oversaw game development or the developers themselves are bigots.

I don't think so, as the sales were falling well before this game came out. Sure, they game could sale more, but that wouldn't help overall sales.

I think the point I wanted to make about this issue is that gays seemingly are moving from company to company, examining its content, and forcing the inclusion of anything gay or condemning what they perceive as a slight to gays.

If I have a right to make a game the way I want, why am I being pressured to include gays? It's either I have the right, or I don't...I shouldn't be pressured.

I used to think that it was ridiculous to think that someday they'd move from religion to religion, reading their material, and condemning the absence of gay marriage and/or gay members. But I also used to think that our rights were also protected to the point to where I don't have to worry about some gay advocacy group examining my material and demanding boycotts because I don't agree with homosexuals marrying.

Do we really have the right to our own views? I don't think so anymore, unless we keep them quiet.

Then it becomes clear fascism at that point.

 

[Vic]

No, when people lose their jobs, this isn't just "public opinion" -- companies don't suffer PR hits and decline in ratings over opinions, particularly with label like "homophobe' being tossed around.

And I never disputed that businesses have the right to do business with whomever they choose, so I think you'd also agree that a game manufacture has every right to advocate straight marriage in their games, right?

It seems to me that you are disputing a businesses right to do business with whomever they choose. This discussion isn't about a video game manufacturer.

 

[nehalem256]

It seems to me that you are disputing a businesses right to do business with whomever they choose

So you support the right of businesses to refuse service to same-sex weddings?

 

[Retro Rob]

So you support the right of businesses to refuse service to same-sex weddings?

Damn, can't wait to see how he turns into an instant lib-ocrite!