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Ben Carson shares his opinion. States America should grow up.

shortylickens

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I suspect he might not understand people aren't angry because they're offended. They are angry about systemic abuse for the last few hundred years and that anger is finally spilling over.
The confederate monuments are just local governments trying to placate angry citizens so they won't burn down government buildings.
 

dawp

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I suspect he might not understand people aren't angry because they're offended. They are angry about systemic abuse for the last few hundred years and that anger is finally spilling over.
The confederate monuments are just local governments trying to placate angry citizens so they won't burn down government buildings.
well most, if not all, confederate statues/monuments were erected for nefarious purposes so, like most republicans, he's full of shit.
 

Fenixgoon

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I wonder what happened to Ben Carson. I read a biography (autobiography?) On him in 7th or 8th grade. He grew up poor, I remember that much. How could he completely ignore the things that held him back in his own youth?
Or perhaps his mentality is "I succeeded despite the odds so you should have to struggle as well" ☹
 

mikeymikec

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I wonder what happened to Ben Carson. I read a biography (autobiography?) On him in 7th or 8th grade. He grew up poor, I remember that much. How could he completely ignore the things that held him back in his own youth?
Or perhaps his mentality is "I succeeded despite the odds so you should have to struggle as well" ☹
Or "I made it by being so great, so all good things come to those who try hard".

 

fskimospy

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Conservatives made these statues in large part to intimidate and offend black people and now the conservative argument is that black people should grow up and not be offended by the actions they took?

Wouldn’t the real grown up thing to do be for conservatives to admit they made a mistake and tear them down together?
 

HomerJS

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Conservatives made these statues in large part to intimidate and offend black people and now the conservative argument is that black people should grow up and not be offended by the actions they took?

Wouldn’t the real grown up thing to do be for conservatives to admit they made a mistake and tear them down together?
It's the same way conservatives treat the n-word. They created it to dehumanize and degrade us. Over time we co-opted it and it has become so toxic for white people, now they want to say nobody should use it.
 
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Lookit that, more racist shit by Republicans more Carson trotted out to spout nonsense. I just can't fathom why that might be...

Gotta love how he validates Republicans racist shit by acting exactly as stupid as they assume black people are. Which, maybe that's the problem, they're only around select few black people like him that act that way, so that's how they think black people are? Well aside from rap and athletes, but they hate the one while viewing the other as indentured servants (shutup and do your contract!).
 
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dank69

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I wonder what happened to Ben Carson. I read a biography (autobiography?) On him in 7th or 8th grade. He grew up poor, I remember that much. How could he completely ignore the things that held him back in his own youth?
Or perhaps his mentality is "I succeeded despite the odds so you should have to struggle as well" ☹
Survivorship bias.
 
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Conservatives made these statues in large part to intimidate and offend black people and now the conservative argument is that black people should grow up and not be offended by the actions they took?

Wouldn’t the real grown up thing to do be for conservatives to admit they made a mistake and tear them down together?
Imagine if you will....

 

Stokely

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Ben Carson has (or had at least) a hand-drawn picture in his living room of Jesus with an arm around...Ben Carson. That right there tells you the level of "divorced from reality" and sheer ego we are talking about with this guy.
 

nakedfrog

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I wonder what happened to Ben Carson. I read a biography (autobiography?) On him in 7th or 8th grade. He grew up poor, I remember that much. How could he completely ignore the things that held him back in his own youth?
Or perhaps his mentality is "I succeeded despite the odds so you should have to struggle as well" ☹
Maybe it's the desire to "be one of the good ones".
 

Meghan54

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It's the same way conservatives treat the n-word. They created it to dehumanize and degrade us. Over time we co-opted it and it has become so toxic for white people, now they want to say nobody should use it.

Personally, it's great that blacks co-opted the "N" word. Good for them!

The only problem I have with it is "my black friend", who is my next door neighbor, 25 and a great person, insists on calling me "My "N" word ending in "a" " every time he sees me. Guess I should be flattered, me being a 66 y.o. white dude. He does say it with great affection. It's just I cannot bring myself to return that compliment due to outside crap from other blacks. We've discussed it many times, in fact, and even though YH says he encourages me to use the phrase, I am adamant that I shall probably never use it, even in private. I know, my own problem, but it is what it is.

I usually respond "My Neighbor!", which, when spoken quickly, kinda images his greeting. Such is life.
 
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ivwshane

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I used to think that brain surgeons had to be really smart. Ben Carson has destroyed that image.
I would imagine that to be a good surgeon one would need to be extremely calm and steady and you can’t get much calmer and steadier than Carson.
 
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woolfe9998

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Agree with eski's point above. I would add to that I don't buy Carson's slippery slope argument either. Certain Universities having a historical affiliation with slavery is not the same thing as these monuments. The very existence of the university in present day doesn't imply approval of slavery the way glorifying its proponents with monuments does.

Carson is only right on the general point. Sure, liberals are sometimes offended by things which they shouldn't be offended by. This just isn't one of those cases so it is a bad example to make that point.
 

fskimospy

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Agree with eski's point above. I would add to that I don't buy Carson's slippery slope argument either. Certain Universities having a historical affiliation with slavery is not the same thing as these monuments. The very existence of the university in present day doesn't imply approval of slavery the way glorifying its proponents with monuments does.

Carson is only right on the general point. Sure, liberals are sometimes offended by things which they shouldn't be offended by. This just isn't one of those cases so it is a bad example to make that point.
Yes, people are absolutely too sensitive sometimes but 'monument to mass enslavement based on the idea your race is subhuman' is something I'm very comfortable with people being offended by.
 
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