Believe it or not, Georgia ....

[SmCaudata]

If only you could go to Saturday breakfast and meet some dudes I love and some are hopelessly deplorable.
Then you would understand why these “audits” even if they don’t change anything is bad for democracy. I have guys that literally believe millions and millions of votes for Trump were altered, lost or edited.
Millions.....
The audit only made them believe it more.

Yep. People just think the conspiracy is bigger. It doesn't help. It's sort of like reality testing with a schizophrenic. It does nothing but perhaps make the person think the doctor is in on it

 

[Greenman]

If only you could go to Saturday breakfast and meet some dudes I love and some are hopelessly deplorable.
Then you would understand why these “audits” even if they don’t change anything is bad for democracy. I have guys that literally believe millions and millions of votes for Trump were altered, lost or edited.
Millions.....
The audit only made them believe it more.

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

 

[dawp]

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

when the "audit" was handled as badly as the Arizona one was it doesn't help democracy, it harms it.

but the purpose of the AZ audit wasn't to verify the end results, it was to raise doubt about the whole process so it could be questioned in the future and possibly change the outcome from the will of the majority.

 

[K1052]

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

Just amazing how we've shifted the goalposts here from prove there was fraud to prove there wasn't fraud. Which just feeds into the conspiracy talk that 2/3rds of Republicans believe which can never be disproven by any amount of facts.

 

[VW MAN]

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

seems like GQP propaganda worked on you.

 

[soundforbjt]

During the rally where trump “praised” Abrams, he also claimed the Arizona audit showed he was the winner, guess what his supporters believe, the actual results of the audit or trump?

 

[MrSquished]

Georgia has already done recounts, including a hand recount. Arizona had already done two audits before the cyber ninjas one. All verified that things were legit.

Greenman is just part of the problem, encouraging endless audits to endlessly encourage that the election was stolen - because that's the intent. As long as we keep auditing, means you can continue to deny the actual results.

 

[VW MAN]

Georgia has already done recounts, including a hand recount. Arizona had already done two audits before the cyber ninjas one. All verified that things were legit.

Greenman is just part of the problem, encouraging endless audits to endlessly encourage that the election was stolen - because that's the intent. As long as we keep auditing, means you can continue to deny the actual results.

Right, and in every jurisdiction across the country there are rules as to where, when and how election audits/recounts can take place. If @Greenman can submit evidence that in any jurisdiction those rules were violated then sure by all means some sort of special audit should take place, but everything was counted and recounted as needed and checked over thoroughly enough that DHS among others have concluded that 2020 was the most accurate and secure election in history.

@Greenman's premise that an audit should be called for at any time for any reason is absolutely garbage bullshit Q nuttery thinking. @Greenman we know you are right leaning, we know you also don't care to educate yourself on many topics because you cant be bothered, you have admitted this many times, but are you really going down the Q bullshit rabbit hole?

 

[IronWing]

Why freak out over it? Arizona turned out alright, the 50k "questionable" votes are just that, questionable. When that started everyone ran in circles with their hands in the air screaming about how crooked the recount would be, but Joe still won. If it takes a few recounts to prove the system is secure then do the recounts.
Yes, some folks are going to swear the recounts are rigged as well, but those people believe space aliens live among us and that Elvis is retired in Florida.

Recounts were done before the election results were certified. Trump lost. These "audits" are fascist shitshows designed to undermine our republic.

 

[HomerJS]

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

Why should we audit the results after 3 recounts? Why do the taxpayers have to pay vs the Republican Party? Why do Republicans want to audit the districts that have the most minorities? Why are we allowing private companies affiliated with Republicans do these audits?

 

[dawp]

Why should we audit the results after 3 recounts? Why do the taxpayers have to pay vs the Republican Party? Why do Republicans want to audit the districts that have the most minorities? Why are we allowing private companies affiliated with Republicans do these audits?

especially GOP affiliated companies that did not exist 6 months prior with no experience working an election.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

And everyone knows trumps pays when he's sued....lol

These audits haven't been about the actual ballots, as has been pointed out to you.

Consider what would be the results if Democrats were abandoning democracy in 2017. Conservaterrorists would be gunning people down, again.

 

[zinfamous]

Why freak out over it? Arizona turned out alright, the 50k "questionable" votes are just that, questionable. When that started everyone ran in circles with their hands in the air screaming about how crooked the recount would be, but Joe still won. If it takes a few recounts to prove the system is secure then do the recounts.
Yes, some folks are going to swear the recounts are rigged as well, but those people believe space aliens live among us and that Elvis is retired in Florida.

"Why worry that there is a concerted effort by one major party to undermine the integrity of all elections and legitimacy of the voting process going forward in the US, the foundation of our democracy?"

Yes, interesting thing that you ask yourself, as always.

 

[zinfamous]

What's bad for democracy is refusing to audit results. That simply gives the appearance of having something to hide. The correct response to an audit request "yes".
In a time when everything has become political, when reporting is regularly done in bad faith in the interest of profit or political gain, we need open honest elections. Yes, there will be clowns shouting about cheating no matter what is done, but simply saying shut up and sit down gives them certainty that there is something to hide.
Arizona should take the time to verify every single one of those 50K votes that are irregular. They should do it in every state that Trump claims the election was rigged, then sue him for the cost when it's proven false.

These aren't audits. Audits were done legally and properly back in November. None of these partisan attacks are audits. None of this is proper.

That you don't see this plain truth is what is alarming.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Anyone else remember 2016’s “Hillary Lost Get Over It”
and find some irony in these audits.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Anyone else remember 2016’s “Hillary Lost Get Over It”
and find some irony in these audits.

Lol, absolutely. The womp womp rhetoric from conservatives won't ever end, and the blatant tribalistic driven hypocrisy won't either.