Being pro-life is utterly untenable and stupid

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cybrsage

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Nov 17, 2011
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But it has to be in the ground, and get water and other nutrients.

This is why I place the start of human life when the fetilized egg attaches itself to the wall of the uterous, where it can begin to turn into a full human. I would place the start of an oak's life at the point where the acorn lands on the soil and can begin to turn into a full oak.

Prior to either point, neither one can ever become a full human/oak.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Regardless of how you feel about abortions, I think it's pretty safe to say downright outlawing it entirely would have its own series of consequences. We'd be seeing more back alley abortions being done, more out of wedlock children born, etc. Abortion would no longer be safe, rare, and legal. It would be unsafe, rare, and illegal.

Prolifers are looking at this all wrong. If you want to change our culture and society here you must do it from within. Educate people on why your cause is the right one and why abortions should be illegal. Instead, you waste your political votes and dumb down our election process by allowing wedge issues like abortion to completley decide who you'll vote for. When in reality not a single candidate has ever or will ever do anything to stop abortions. They will continue to use these issues to drive single issue voters into their camps and divide the country.
 

cybrsage

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I partially agree with you, One. Using the "people will break the law and get hurt doing it" is never a good reason to have something be legal.

But aside from that, I do agree. Education is the key. I also think the people who protest outside abortion clinics are doing more harm than good. They should have a stand setup with information and VERY empathetic people there who want to help, not want to stop, the person who feels they need to have an abortion.

Most people going in for abortions who will ever have a chance to change their minds are scared and feel alone. These people think abortion is their only real option. They are the ones who need to feel loved, feel helped, feel that someone cares and understands. This is the exact opposite of what abortion clinic protestors do, and it is wrong.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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I partially agree with you, One. Using the "people will break the law and get hurt doing it" is never a good reason to have something be legal.

But aside from that, I do agree. Education is the key. I also think the people who protest outside abortion clinics are doing more harm than good. They should have a stand setup with information and VERY empathetic people there who want to help, not want to stop, the person who feels they need to have an abortion.

Most people going in for abortions who will ever have a chance to change their minds are scared and feel alone. These people think abortion is their only real option. They are the ones who need to feel loved, feel helped, feel that someone cares and understands. This is the exact opposite of what abortion clinic protestors do, and it is wrong.

It's not as wrong as abortion though
 

Steeplerot

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It is quite simple to be against abortion if you are not the one pregnant. But then this is coming from a male dominated puritanical society with major sex/gender issues who still mostly think of women as subservient baby slaves anyhow. In other words busybodies with no life of their own so they seek to control others. No one likes that it happens, but some people do get their rocks off spreading misery when others are in a compromised position. A form of cultural rape where sex=violence. Disgusting.