Being gay might be genetic

[justoh]

Yep. Sad but true.

It's sad that rape is about power instead of desire? That's a very weird thing to say. Where did you come up with that? The library?

 

[cytg111]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-share-genetic-similarities-study-claims.html


You pro abortion liberals, how do you feel about a this gay gene being added to fetal genetic screening? Doctor tells the mother and father there is a 90% chance their child will be gay, so the parents opt for an abortion.

How far does your tolerance go?

A woman has control of her body, but society should not discriminate against gays either.

I think some of the members here are gay. I do not remember their names but some of yall have posted that there are some gay people here. How do yall feel about a gay fetus being aborted? How do you feel about genocide on the fetal level.

TLDR all the posts utill now, so sorry if redundant.
How come it is not the male-many-children gene? or the teen-mom-gene?`

About a fetus getting aborted. Get used to it. With DNA profiing on the rise, this is our future.. And if it comes to that, it is really your own fault for not properly 'desigining' your fetus in the first place. You may not like it, but this is the path we're on for better and for worse (more better than worse if you ask me...)

edit : ps. in a futuristic society, say 10 years from now, i'd problary design a fetus as bisexual (why miss out on 50% right?), high iq, brown eyes, dark pigmentation(survival traits) and several other factors for longevity.

 

[Victorian Gray]

It's sad that rape is about power instead of desire? That's a very weird thing to say. Where did you come up with that? The library?

And here is an award for your cleverness little guy. You can show it off to all your friends.

 

[Meghan54]

Is theTEXASS GOP finally going to allow gay conversion brainwashing like the baby Jesus in your dreams told you about?

It did today:

Texas GOP endorses "Reparative Therapy" for Gays.

The Texas Republican Party now endorses so-called "reparative therapy" for gays under a new platform given final approval at its annual convention.


Under the new plank, the Texas GOP will "recognize the legitimacy and efficacy of counseling, which offers reparative therapy and treatment for those patients seeking healing and wholeness from their homosexual lifestyle."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-gop-endorses-reparative-therapy-gays-n125471

 

[sandorski]

If we're going to have a discussion, you need to look up what the word abnormal means..

Then we can continue, because if you ask such a foolish question, you obviously don't know what it means.

I don't think it is a foolish question. If a Male has the mind of a Female, does that not confirm that their attraction to Men is justified? Are they not just merely acting on who they are? What is "abnormal" about someone pursuing a relationship with someone they are attracted too?

 

[cytg111]

Here's to the gay crowd

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.dk/2012/04/homosexuals-are-smart.html

Apparantly you be smarter. (statistics and all to be trusted.. w.churchill)

So the gay/male-many-children/teen-mom gene is mayhaps also the smart gene?
Explains all the oversmart teen-moms on reality shows these days.

 

[Carfax83]

"Normal" and "abnormal" are subjective terms; having to do not only with the person's feelings and opinions but also their place or role among a given set or subset of people.

That's only one way to look at it. Another way would be to say that empirically quantifiable data is by nature objective and thus terms like normal and abnormal are absolutely valid as they are measurable..

Are intersex people normal or abnormal? Or what about conjoined twins?

It's usage, along with derogatory terms like "fucktards" may suggest a person of low self-worth or esteem who needs to denigrate others to feel superior.

Maybe I came at him a bit too harsh, but I'm just sick and tired of the gay propaganda trying to make homosexuality as normal as heterosexuality.

Also, heterosexuality has no "opposite"; a better term would be "asexuality"; though not a true opposite, more a lack of interest in sex.

I think you're being overly pedantic here. You know what I meant..

 

[Carfax83]

What shithole in the USA did this fucktard crawl out of, Ric Perry's ass? TexasHiker is that you sweat heart? I wish you would stop taking the white sheets off the bed and cutting eyeholes in them and getting blood all over them at your friendly Klan rallies pretending to be the state GOP convention. Is theTEXASS GOP finally going to allow gay conversion brainwashing like the baby Jesus in your dreams told you about?

Listen you fucking bedwetting, political correctness worshipping, fake outrage liberal wise and beautiful woman rag, I already said I supported gay marriage. That's all you and yours are going to get from me.

Now fuck off 😎

Several of you in this thread need to tone down the personal attack; it's getting a bit out of hand. -Admin DrPizza

 

[Carfax83]

I don't think it is a foolish question. If a Male has the mind of a Female, does that not confirm that their attraction to Men is justified? Are they not just merely acting on who they are? What is "abnormal" about someone pursuing a relationship with someone they are attracted too?

I do not doubt that it is natural for a gay man to be attracted to other men, and I've always said that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon..

But whether homosexuality is normal or not is another question entirely. Approximately 10% of the human population has the capacity for same sex attraction in varying degrees.

Exclusive homosexuality has been estimated at 1% or less. So the relative rarity of homosexuality in relation to heterosexuality, the physiological makeup of the human body, in addition to the Scientific findings regarding the differences in brain pattern for homosexuals provide strong evidence for making the assertion that homosexuality is an abnormality.

To state otherwise, would be to open the doorway to the possibility that other biological phenomenon such as intersex and conjoined twins are also normal..

 

[sandorski]

I do not doubt that it is natural for a gay man to be attracted to other men, and I've always said that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon..

But whether homosexuality is normal or not is another question entirely. Approximately 10% of the human population has the capacity for same sex attraction in varying degrees.

Exclusive homosexuality has been estimated at 1% or less. So the relative rarity of homosexuality in relation to heterosexuality, the physiological makeup of the human body, in addition to the Scientific findings regarding the differences in brain pattern for homosexuals provide strong evidence for making the assertion that homosexuality is an abnormality.

To state otherwise, would be to open the doorway to the possibility that other biological phenomenon such as intersex and conjoined twins are also normal..

It is the connotation I object too, I suppose. Calling something, that occurs naturally, "abnormal" is the beginning of many an argument for discrimination against that thing. Just because a thing is rare is no reason to identify it as "abnormal" or an "aberration". This is especially when the state of it has no real negative affect on the functionality of the persons in question.

 

[SlickSnake]

Listen you fucking bedwetting, political correctness worshipping, fake outrage liberal wise and beautiful woman rag, I already said I supported gay marriage. That's all you and yours are going to get from me.

Now fuck off 😎

😵

With fake gay marriage supporters like you on the gays side, who needs enemies? Oh wait, you do. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

 

[SlickSnake]

I do not doubt that it is natural for a gay man to be attracted to other men, and I've always said that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon..

But whether homosexuality is normal or not is another question entirely. Approximately 10% of the human population has the capacity for same sex attraction in varying degrees.

Exclusive homosexuality has been estimated at 1% or less. So the relative rarity of homosexuality in relation to heterosexuality, the physiological makeup of the human body, in addition to the Scientific findings regarding the differences in brain pattern for homosexuals provide strong evidence for making the assertion that homosexuality is an abnormality.

To state otherwise, would be to open the doorway to the possibility that other biological phenomenon such as intersex and conjoined twins are also normal..

The biggest genetic abnormality is see posting here now is you. Kinda funny how Texashiker takes a hike from the fake gay gene science topic he started, only to be replaced a few days later by you, isn't it? And your join date also happens to be one month and 2 weeks prior to his join date. And out of 3 total friends each, you are both friends with werepossum of all things. Well isn't that interesting. 😕

 

[JD50]

Wait a minute, I thought gay people couldn't procreate? If they already are not passing on their genes, how would aborting a fetus with a gay gene change anything?

Still waiting for an answer.

 

[JD50]

They are not normal because their brain patterns resembles the opposite sex..

Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon, but it is most definitely abnormal.. The brain abnormality explains the extremely high rate of sexual inversion that is associated with homosexuals..

Personally I support gay marriage, but to hear fucktards like you and a few others in this thread spout off a ton of ignorance and try to make it seem as though homosexuality is merely the opposite of heterosexuality and not an abnormality, just pushes my buttons.. 😛

You didn't understand my question. You're not worth my time so I won't bother explaining it.

 

[smackababy]

I am still curious where I can get tested. If I am genetically supposed to be sleeping with men, and am not, I am disappointed with myself. I need this test immediately!

 

[SlickSnake]

I am still curious where I can get tested. If I am genetically supposed to be sleeping with men, and am not, I am disappointed with myself. I need this test immediately!

Well, I had my genes mapped, so I may need to abort myself if I have it. Not sure how to go about this. Do I need to get a sex change first? Seems like that would be required.

 

[sportage]

It did today:

Texas GOP endorses "Reparative Therapy" for Gays.




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-gop-endorses-reparative-therapy-gays-n125471

Im all for reparative therapy.
For republicans....
I truly believe your average typical bigoted republican can be reparative therapied into a humane intelligent earthly creatured member of society.
I do so want to believe that.... I do. I do. I do.
Bring on the reparative therapy.
For republicans.... 🙂

 

[Texashiker]

So, are you still sticking by your "all gay people were just straight people that were molested" argument from a couple years ago?

I needed a couple of days to ponder your question before posting a reply.

To answer your question, I still view being gay as a mental disorder.

Allow me to explain.

If someone has a genetic predisposition for drug abuse and addiction, do we excuse that persons behavior? Or does society offer drug rehab programs?

We know for a fact that children can be born addicted to crack if the mother used crack. Does "being born that way" excuse future behavior?

Children born to alcoholic mothers can suffer a wide range of social and mental problems. What does society do? We get those children the help they need.

If we can treat children born with problems such as fetal alcohol syndrome and genetic predispositions, why can't people who are supposedly born gay be treated?

There are studies that say trying to reform gay people can be detrimental. Where does that leave drug rehab programs for people who have a genetic predisposition for drug abuse? Should we reform drug addicts, or just admit they were born that way and let them live their lives?

So what if someone wants to shoot heroin in the privacy of their own home? It is not hurting you. They were born that way, just accept it.

 

[brycejones]

Thread is still as retarded as it was in the first post.

 

[Texashiker]

Thread is still as retarded as it was in the first post.

Answer my questions, if society can reform a baby who was born addicted to crack, why can't we reform gays?

Does having a genetic predisposition to alcohol abuse excuse a persons staying drunk all the time?

They were born that way, deal with it.

Alcohol abuse is frowned upon. Look at the term we use to define it alcohol "abuse." If you had a friend who stayed drunk all the time would you talk to him/her and try to get them some help? Or would you just accept them the way they are?

Why should we excuse certain behaviors, but tolerate others?

There is a chance alcohols were born that way. But yet you would want them to get into a program to get them to stop drinking?

 

[alzan]

I needed a couple of days to ponder your question before posting a reply.

To answer your question, I still view being gay as a mental disorder.

Allow me to explain.

If someone has a genetic predisposition for drug abuse and addiction, do we excuse that persons behavior? Or does society offer drug rehab programs?

We know for a fact that children can be born addicted to crack if the mother used crack. Does "being born that way" excuse future behavior?

Children born to alcoholic mothers can suffer a wide range of social and mental problems. What does society do? We get those children the help they need.

If we can treat children born with problems such as fetal alcohol syndrome and genetic predispositions, why can't people who are supposedly born gay be treated?

There are studies that say trying to reform gay people can be detrimental. Where does that leave drug rehab programs for people who have a genetic predisposition for drug abuse? Should we reform drug addicts, or just admit they were born that way and let them live their lives?

So what if someone wants to shoot heroin in the privacy of their own home? It is not hurting you. They were born that way, just accept it.

Being homosexual does not adversely affect how a person functions in everyday life or situations, as most mental disorders do.

The people who abuse substances (alcohol, sugar, some drugs) have addictive personalities. Being attracted to the same sex is not an addictive personality.

Your analogy is flawed.

 

[smackababy]

So, gays are now the equivalent of crack babies and alcoholics. This thread has officially jumped the shark. TH "doesn't hate gays", he just equates them with mongoloids and the dregs of society.

 

[Texashiker]

So, gays are now the equivalent of crack babies and alcoholics.

No, not at all.

The question: How far does your tolerance go? You tolerate gays, but not drunks?

 

[SMOGZINN]

So what if someone wants to shoot heroin in the privacy of their own home? It is not hurting you. They were born that way, just accept it.

I can take everything you said and apply it to left-handedness as well. But after literally centuries of trying to 'correct' that, we finally decided that is was not something that needed correcting.

Being gay or left-handed is intrinsic to the person. You can't really change it, you can only force behavior change that will never feel natural to them. You basically have to break them to make them behave in a manner that is against their nature.

Addictive personality is similar in some respects. But we don't try to repress their personality, we try to break the physical addiction that these substances have on the body, and teach them behaviors that will help them overcome the substances that are bad. We don't touch the other aspects of the addictive personality. The obsessions with pop culture, or cooking, watching TV. We don't have interdictions for addiction to caffeine or sugar.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Why should we excuse certain behaviors, but tolerate others?

This is a question that people have been dealing with since we first created laws. The only answer, unless you use some old book, is compassion and empathy. We try to help those that are in pain, and accept those that are not.