Being black sucks (at least for me)

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

beatniks3

Senior member
Apr 14, 2000
598
0
0
Originally posted by: Booster
Being black sucks (at least for me)

C'mon the color of the skin means nothing in life. I'm 'white' as they say... But my position is very, very bad. I'd rather be black, literally.



:Q:confused::frown::eek: (i'm always amazed at some of things i read on the internet)
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
11,518
670
126
I the immortal words of Al Jourgensen of Ministry (Psalm 69)

"Who are you trying to impress.....who could care less"


Does it really matter what other thing of you? Just be happy with who you are and continue doing what you do.
 

Booster

Diamond Member
May 4, 2002
4,380
0
0
Just because you are white and is not discriminatory doesnt mean other whites are not

*Shrug* Well maybe your right... I don't live in the USA. In my country there are so few foreigners, you see them like once a year or even less frequent that every foreigner is treated as a really big man, be it an African student, an Indian, a Chinese etc... Maybe that's why I know little about racism. Anyway, I understand you and I hope that you'll be fine.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: nater
I understand what you're saying. You can thank the black rap artists and sports stars for the stereotypes you listed.

Yep, I think popular black culture has done more to harm blacks than any racist group there is. The violence and negativity in Rap music, the sense of entitlement, and the "black leadership's" never ending blame games have led to a culture of irresponsibility and moral poverty. It's also led whites to an even more negative image of blacks.

I find that very sad.
 

Arkitech

Diamond Member
Apr 13, 2000
8,356
3
76
Originally posted by: chasem
sorry you feel that way,
if i were you, i wouldn't

but dont forget, no matter who you are, life gennerally sucks. good rules to live by :)

heh, life indeed can be sucky at times

thank god for video games :D
 

MacGaven

Golden Member
Dec 5, 2002
1,854
0
0
Being colored is a completely different experience in life, and you can only understand it if you have lived it yourself.

It's sad, but color is a judgement that people try to force upon you in this world. It lacks in substance but I still believe it can be overcome.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: xirtam
Originally posted by: nater
I understand what you're saying. You can thank the black rap artists and sports stars for the stereotypes you listed.

No stereotyping going on here.
rolleye.gif

Why not? Stereotyping is what people do. If you don't want a negative image, stop supporting people who portray one. Like it or not, segregated whites judge blacks by what they see in the media.
 

Oakenfold

Diamond Member
Feb 8, 2001
5,740
0
76
Originally posted by: Arkitech
I should mention that not all my experiences with other races have been bad as I have met some really cool people from all walks of life. I just wish there was a way to blot out the stereotypes that get applied to people simply because of a skin color. I can't tolerate racism in any form or fashion, a relative of mine was making some pretty crude racial comments and I basically told him he was bigot. That was 4 years ago and we still don't talk anymore even though I see him often.

Who knows maybe one of these days racism will be a thing of the past.

There is a way, we have to kill the racism at the roots with our children, in our schools.
:)

I have love for all races, except one. Mac users.
:D
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: Arkitech
I should mention that not all my experiences with other races have been bad as I have met some really cool people from all walks of life. I just wish there was a way to blot out the stereotypes that get applied to people simply because of a skin color. I can't tolerate racism in any form or fashion, a relative of mine was making some pretty crude racial comments and I basically told him he was bigot. That was 4 years ago and we still don't talk anymore even though I see him often.

Who knows maybe one of these days racism will be a thing of the past.

There is a way, we have to kill the racism at the roots with our children, in our schools.
:)

I have love for all races, except one. Mac users.
:D

How would you go about terrorizing a Mac user? Burn an apple tree on their lawn? :D
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
25,195
0
56
Sorry guy, I'd like to apologize for the rest of humanity...

Think of yourself as a prototype of what Blacks/AA/(whatever it is this week) ought to be.

It'll get better, society just has some growing up to do:clock:
 

LeeTJ

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2003
4,899
0
0
so a black guy complains about being discriminated against by whites and everyone like "oh man i feel so sorry for you" and yet, i remember a couple weeks ago i posted that i felt that black people discriminated against asians and i was blasted as being racist.

so what is it??

is it a double standard?? of do you people actually believe that only black people are discriminated against??
 

Arkitech

Diamond Member
Apr 13, 2000
8,356
3
76
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: nater
I understand what you're saying. You can thank the black rap artists and sports stars for the stereotypes you listed.

Yep, I think popular black culture has done more to harm blacks than any racist group there is. The violence and negativity in Rap music, the sense of entitlement, and the "black leadership's" never ending blame games have led to a culture of irresponsibility and moral poverty. It's also led whites to an even more negative image of blacks.

I find that very sad.


I agree with that 100%, I guess that's why I cringe whenever I see idiots like Nelly and Ja Rule in the limelight. Add Jesse Jackson to that list as well. A few of my friends I went to school with are all going through the same thing I am, its basically a fight to be accepted on your own merits. But what makes this fight so difficult is that there are a lot of people who actually live up to the stereotype which provides plenty of ammunition for those who want it. For every person whether hispanic, arab, asian or black who's trying to put forth a positive image there's always another person who is earnestly dragging that image back down in the mud. For the past 8-10 years I've been very self conscious of every action that I make, I'm literally terrified of being seen as one of these stereotypical dolts. I'm trying to work through it but somedays are tougher than others.
 

Mallow

Diamond Member
Jul 25, 2001
6,108
1
0
Are you a large man? 220lbs+ 6'2"+? If you are that might explain the intimidation. Most people would be intimidated even if you were white with those statistics. Do you have tatoos?
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
so a black guy complains about being discriminated against by whites and everyone like "oh man i feel so sorry for you" and yet, i remember a couple weeks ago i posted that i felt that black people discriminated against asians and i was blasted as being racist.

so what is it??

is it a double standard?? of do you people actually believe that only black people are discriminated against??

Yes, unfortunately, there is a double standard. It's part of the blame game I talked about above. But remember NOT to play the same game. People are individuals and deserve to be judged as such... not as a skin color.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
10,074
0
0
I understand race relations in this country still need a great deal of improvement. I am speaking from experience because I am white and my wife is Asian, and we get our share of looks. Some of my family (born on southern farms) still get very uncomfortable around my wife, because they are ignorant of her culture and really just don't know what to say. The more time she spends with them, the more they realize she is a wonderful person, but it takes time.

HOWEVER, I get upset when I see famous black people, such as Halle Berry (who is the most fantastically gorgeous woman I have EVER seen, she does it for me) and Samuel Jackson during some AA awards who on TV say "I am just so glad to be receiving this award from my own". It was made clear to me by the show they were referring to people of their own color, because everyone on the show was African American. . I am sorry to say I do not recall the name of the awards show, I caught it in the middle one night and was so disgusted by those comments that I turned it off! When anyone (regardless of color) refers to "their own" and purposefully separates themselves from the general culture BECAUSE of their color, that just ends up furthering the race barriers we deal with in this country. I really hope for a world where color will not matter in people's minds, but I think all sides of the issue tend to promote racial inequality without recognizing that they are doing so.


Originally posted by: Arkitech
I usually try to not let it get to me but its tough sometimes. Just a few weeks ago my wife and I were looking at some new homes in a new subdivision in a suburb of Chicago and the lady who was showing the homes actually told us "would'nt you be more comfortable living in an area with your own kind". I was so mad that I just left without saying a word. It would be so nice if people were treated by their actions instead of appearances.

 

LeeTJ

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2003
4,899
0
0
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
so a black guy complains about being discriminated against by whites and everyone like "oh man i feel so sorry for you" and yet, i remember a couple weeks ago i posted that i felt that black people discriminated against asians and i was blasted as being racist.

so what is it??

is it a double standard?? of do you people actually believe that only black people are discriminated against??

Yes, unfortunately, there is a double standard. It's part of the blame game I talked about above. But remember NOT to play the same game. People are individuals and deserve to be judged as such... not as a skin color.

mb, but one also should ignore what they observe in life. it has been my observation that an overwhelmingly large number of black children (small children) make mocking chinese type sounds when they see me and very few white kids have ever done that. well not since i lived in atlanta back in the early '70's.

so, should i pretend that i have never observed those things? should i ignore the facts because it is politically correct to do so?
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: nater
I understand what you're saying. You can thank the black rap artists and sports stars for the stereotypes you listed.

Yep, I think popular black culture has done more to harm blacks than any racist group there is. The violence and negativity in Rap music, the sense of entitlement, and the "black leadership's" never ending blame games have led to a culture of irresponsibility and moral poverty. It's also led whites to an even more negative image of blacks.

I find that very sad.


I agree with that 100%, I guess that's why I cringe whenever I see idiots like Nelly and Ja Rule in the limelight. Add Jesse Jackson to that list as well. A few of my friends I went to school with are all going through the same thing I am, its basically a fight to be accepted on your own merits. But what makes this fight so difficult is that there are a lot of people who actually live up to the stereotype which provides plenty of ammunition for those who want it. For every person whether hispanic, arab, asian or black who's trying to put forth a positive image there's always another person who is earnestly dragging that image back down in the mud. For the past 8-10 years I've been very self conscious of every action that I make, I'm literally terrified of being seen as one of these stereotypical dolts. I'm trying to work through it but somedays are tougher than others.

Well, that's really all you can do. Until a large enough number of blacks stand up and unite against these negative stereotypes by being, doing, and advocating the exact opposite, this image will prevail in the eyes of Americans.

 

ConclamoLudus

Senior member
Jan 16, 2003
572
0
0
White Flight is a total shame. Its unfortunate. Detroit got it in one of the worst ways ever. On the other side of Michigan where I reside, white flight takes on a different shape, its strange. The whites will leave an area, minorities will move in, then minorites will leave, and whites will move back in because it becomes a "Renaissance Zone" and is tax-free. They redecorate the whole neighborhood and have all kinds of rules about the condition of the house they live in. Sometimes these "Renaissance Zones" are a good thing for the community, but I think it eventually leads to much higher rent, forcing the poorer families in these areas to lower rent areas.

I guess that was a little off your thread, but screw those who categorize you, or discriminate against you, they are not poeple worthy of your company or your emotional energy.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
so a black guy complains about being discriminated against by whites and everyone like "oh man i feel so sorry for you" and yet, i remember a couple weeks ago i posted that i felt that black people discriminated against asians and i was blasted as being racist.

so what is it??

is it a double standard?? of do you people actually believe that only black people are discriminated against??

Yes, unfortunately, there is a double standard. It's part of the blame game I talked about above. But remember NOT to play the same game. People are individuals and deserve to be judged as such... not as a skin color.

mb, but one also should ignore what they observe in life. it has been my observation that an overwhelmingly large number of black children (small children) make mocking chinese type sounds when they see me and very few white kids have ever done that. well not since i lived in atlanta back in the early '70's.

so, should i pretend that i have never observed those things? should i ignore the facts because it is politically correct to do so?

No, never. But understand that the prevailing feeling out there is that blacks cannot be racist because they have been victims of racism themselves. The logic is non-existent there, but that's the reality.

 

LeeTJ

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2003
4,899
0
0
I'm not sure i agree. I think it is good to have a strong sense of identity. i can see where black leadership would want to encourage it because pride in their heritage was a weakness for black people for a long time. a lot of other ethnic groups feel pride in their ethnic heritage. Pride in ones own ethnic heritage is not the same as hatred for another ethnic group.

Originally posted by: wyvrn
I understand race relations in this country still need a great deal of improvement. I am speaking from experience because I am white and my wife is Asian, and we get our share of looks. Some of my family (born on southern farms) still get very uncomfortable around my wife, because they are ignorant of her culture and really just don't know what to say. The more time she spends with them, the more they realize she is a wonderful person, but it takes time.

HOWEVER, I get upset when I see famous black people, such as Halle Berry (who is the most fantastically gorgeous woman I have EVER seen, she does it for me) and Samuel Jackson during some AA awards who on TV say "I am just so glad to be receiving this award from my own". It was made clear to me by the show they were referring to people of their own color, because everyone on the show was African American. . I am sorry to say I do not recall the name of the awards show, I caught it in the middle one night and was so disgusted by those comments that I turned it off! When anyone (regardless of color) refers to "their own" and purposefully separates themselves from the general culture BECAUSE of their color, that just ends up furthering the race barriers we deal with in this country. I really hope for a world where color will not matter in people's minds, but I think all sides of the issue tend to promote racial inequality without recognizing that they are doing so.


Originally posted by: Arkitech
I usually try to not let it get to me but its tough sometimes. Just a few weeks ago my wife and I were looking at some new homes in a new subdivision in a suburb of Chicago and the lady who was showing the homes actually told us "would'nt you be more comfortable living in an area with your own kind". I was so mad that I just left without saying a word. It would be so nice if people were treated by their actions instead of appearances.

 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
10,074
0
0
The answer to your question is no, you should not ignore them. They are wrong. I would also like to point out that some of my wife's family (mostly the extended part) call African American's "awesome people" and make fun of them. I really think there must be some special tension between Asians and AA's, because I have seen disparaging comments on both sides of that color relationship.

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
so a black guy complains about being discriminated against by whites and everyone like "oh man i feel so sorry for you" and yet, i remember a couple weeks ago i posted that i felt that black people discriminated against asians and i was blasted as being racist.

so what is it??

is it a double standard?? of do you people actually believe that only black people are discriminated against??

Yes, unfortunately, there is a double standard. It's part of the blame game I talked about above. But remember NOT to play the same game. People are individuals and deserve to be judged as such... not as a skin color.

mb, but one also should ignore what they observe in life. it has been my observation that an overwhelmingly large number of black children (small children) make mocking chinese type sounds when they see me and very few white kids have ever done that. well not since i lived in atlanta back in the early '70's.

so, should i pretend that i have never observed those things? should i ignore the facts because it is politically correct to do so?

 

Arkitech

Diamond Member
Apr 13, 2000
8,356
3
76
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
so a black guy complains about being discriminated against by whites and everyone like "oh man i feel so sorry for you" and yet, i remember a couple weeks ago i posted that i felt that black people discriminated against asians and i was blasted as being racist.

so what is it??

is it a double standard?? of do you people actually believe that only black people are discriminated against??

damn

I've noticed similar attitudes before, I've seen asians/whites/jews slammed when they complained about being victimized by racism. Regardless of your race being discrimated against is no joy.

 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
25,195
0
56
In my perfect world, folks would be more careful to get to know the person, rather than assume from the outset that race matters to them.

Lord save me from blacks that wear the freaking "Reparations" T shirts & walk around with a chip on their shoulder.

I've also noticed the puzzling racism of one minority against the other, it's just too damn weird, but it surely exists.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
55,920
14,195
146
Originally posted by: ConclamoLudus
White Flight is a total shame. Its unfortunate. Detroit got it in one of the worst ways ever. On the other side of Michigan where I reside, white flight takes on a different shape, its strange. The whites will leave an area, minorities will move in, then minorites will leave, and whites will move back in because it becomes a "Renaissance Zone" and is tax-free. They redecorate the whole neighborhood and have all kinds of rules about the condition of the house they live in. Sometimes these "Renaissance Zones" are a good thing for the community, but I think it eventually leads to much higher rent, forcing the poorer families in these areas to lower rent areas.

I guess that was a little off your thread, but screw those who categorize you, or discriminate against you, they are not poeple worthy of your company or your emotional energy.

You know, it's amazing, but "white flight" is virtually non-existent in the South (GA, SC and NC). When I lived there, I noticed more intergreted neighborhoods than I ever saw up here in the Midwest.