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Being black in Canadian culture: a discussion panel.

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dennilfloss

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=I0lf_f1p3gM&NR=1

I'm a middle-aged white French Canadian and this obviously colours my opinion but I found this a very interesting discussion that exemplifies in part the extent to which the African American experience and its overwhelming portrayal in popular culture and mass media has such an influence on black people growing up in Canada too. Still one cannot help but notice, as the panel points out, that there are definite differences between the two (and in fact multiple) perspectives on what it means and feels to be black in various societies. Once again the importance of role models in popular culture and mass media for young persons (of any culture) is noted.

Without spoiling it too much, they do point out to the fact that there is less of a sense of a monolithic black community here in Canada, mostly due to being only a few % of the population, being more dispersed within & amongst cities and being less militant/politicized & organized with lobby groups etc... They discuss how much Canadian one feels compared to the attachment with their country of origin, even those who were born here. They lament to various degrees the caricatural portrayal of the loud black woman in film and discuss the importance of positive-academic role models like The Cosby parents to show kids that there is more to life than sports, rap and criminality.

The tone of that discussion is very civilized, very Canadian. The panel did not portray a sense of resentment against the white majority like one sees, for example, in discussions that feature Spike Lee, Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. It's more on the Maya Angelou-Bill Cosby-Condoleezza Rice end of the spectrum, probably because of their different formative and current experiences. Plus black slavery was a relatively minor phenomenon in Canada compared to the US, so that probably has an influence on how they perceive the white majority. There is some sense of being different, of alienation but what role it plays seems to vary a lot more with individuals than in the US.

They say that a Canadian is like an American with the battery removed and that this analogy applies also to the Black Canadian vs African American. The black Canadian experience is said to be more akin to blacks living in Europe than to that of African Americans.

Well-worth watching.🙂
 
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I heard from a friend, being a black in Canada sucks. They're all poor and inner city and you almost never see black professionals.

Is that true?
 
I heard from a friend, being a black in Canada sucks. They're all poor and inner city and you almost never see black professionals.

Is that true?

That's America, in Canada it's the Native Americans that are at the bottom of the heap. Blacks do quite well but there are certain immigrants like Solomlia refugees that should be shipped right back where they came from. But blacks from America are usually football players and blacks from south america/caribbean work.

In fact, all these immigrants work, chinese, Inidians (from India) everyone except Native American Indians. In Manitoba I believe they make up 70% of the prison population.
 
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That's America, in Canada it's the Native Americans that are at the bottom of the heap.
I noticed that when I visited BC. Canadians have a lot of indian jokes and indian related terms. I remember one guy said he was on "indian time" and I didn't understand what he meant. Apparently that means there's no set schedule so it just happens whenever. Eat supper at 9pm because you're on indian time. Another awesome one was "indian hotbox" which is like a regular marijuana hotbox in a car but it's with cigarettes. Smoke cigarettes with the windows up so everybody gets some. "indian shower" means using a sink to wash just your face and arm pits. Carrying your stuff in a garbage bag is an "indian suitcase."
 
I noticed that when I visited BC. Canadians have a lot of indian jokes and indian related terms. I remember one guy said he was on "indian time" and I didn't understand what he meant. Apparently that means there's no set schedule so it just happens whenever. Eat supper at 9pm because you're on indian time. Another awesome one was "indian hotbox" which is like a regular marijuana hotbox in a car but it's with cigarettes. Smoke cigarettes with the windows up so everybody gets some. "indian shower" means using a sink to wash just your face and arm pits. Carrying your stuff in a garbage bag is an "indian suitcase."

Indian time usually means LATE. They can't hold a job even on an Indian reserve. The biggest Coffee donut chain in Canada called Tim Hortons literally cannot hire natives because they work one day then they're gone the next. Not every single one but man, they have a welfare mentality that is destroying their culture or what of it they have left.

In Canada they are not the First Nations, they are the Welfare Nations.
 
They're called blacks.
And why not? 🙂

I don't call myself "European-American" or get specific with any of the other nationalities I may have.
I'm a nerdy white guy.



But then I also don't really care about nationalism, and I'm not too big on cultural traditions. I find that many traditions don't have much practical value anymore; they're done because "dat's da vey ve used to do it."
 
And despite the political correctness in this thread Canadians absolutely do not call Indians "Native Americans". That doesn't even make sense.

Only because Canadians have a ridiculously large chip on their shoulders about "we're not just polite Americans dammit!"

People south of the border are more than happy to use "America" to refer to the entire New World.

Calling them "Native Americans" makes more sense than "First Nations", given the archaeological ambiguity that characterizes the New World.
 
I noticed that when I visited BC. Canadians have a lot of indian jokes and indian related terms. I remember one guy said he was on "indian time" and I didn't understand what he meant. Apparently that means there's no set schedule so it just happens whenever. Eat supper at 9pm because you're on indian time. Another awesome one was "indian hotbox" which is like a regular marijuana hotbox in a car but it's with cigarettes. Smoke cigarettes with the windows up so everybody gets some. "indian shower" means using a sink to wash just your face and arm pits. Carrying your stuff in a garbage bag is an "indian suitcase."

I think it's more a west of Ontario thing. Though Natives are not exactly well thought of here. That's been sealed by the level of band corruption and terrorism at Ipperwash, Oka, and Caledonia. There's a lot of resentment in the greater population as governments are soft on native terrorism.
 
I live in Calgary in western Canada. We don't have a lot of blacks at all here. My high school had less than a dozen black people when I attended it. Crime is low. We have a population of over a million people and we've only had 6 or 7 homicides for the year thus far. Most American Cities get that in a single day! lol Eastern Canada - namely Ontario - with a higher percentage of blacks has a much higher crime problem. I've been to Toronto Ontario on business trips, and it's not the people I hate per say, it's the traffic.
 
I live in Calgary in western Canada. We don't have a lot of blacks at all here. My high school had less than a dozen black people when I attended it. Crime is low. We have a population of over a million people and we've only had 6 or 7 homicides for the year thus far. Most American Cities get that in a single day! lol Eastern Canada - namely Ontario - with a higher percentage of blacks has a much higher crime problem. I've been to Toronto Ontario on business trips, and it's not the people I hate per say, it's the traffic.

Pretty much everything you've posted is wrong.

1) Crime is, on average, significantly higher in Western Canada than Eastern Canada. Crime is tremendously higher in Calgary than Toronto for example.
2) "Most" American cities do not see anywhere near 6 or 7 homicides per day, especially in the 1 million ish size.
 
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