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JoeBleed
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cop: ok guys, i'm going to detain you while i sit in my car and read through my code book.
pricks: you can't detain us. we haven't broken the law!!!!!!!
cop: you told me to check my law, so i'm going to do that; BUT, i can't let you go free in case you are committing a crime. I could just let you go and come pick you up at your house if i find you're braking the law, but you refuse to show ID.
pricks: BUT!!!!...
Edit:
cop: i love gettin paid by the hour. :-D
Too bad the cop didn't know that or he could have legally asked them to stop selling ammo from a sidewalk without a license. What I don't get is why didn't the cop go back to his car, call in the situation the the city's attorney general who could then inform him that what they were doing was illegal and to go ahead and arrest him, hopefully he resists so a nice tasing gets put on his punk-ass.
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You're assuming the cop knew the applicable ordinance. But you'd be surprised how much of the law even the more decent cops aren't all that versed in (or maybe not.)
I was a PI, and i can't tell you how many times I was with cops who either didn't know the law or were dead wrong. And, no, I felt it was never a good idea to argue with them or show them up. The real world, in those days, simply didn't work that way.
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Well, thanks to Douche McGunBoner, the authorities have that video as evidence that they were indeed in violation of the ordinance. I hope they get their ammo confiscated, and given to the police force for range practice.
rudeguy
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The guy in the video wanted that to happen, that was the whole point.
He seems to think there is a state law that supercedes the ordinance and wanted to challenge the ordinance. I don't know if he is right or not, but that was his point.
Skel
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I kept wondering that myself. There's a high chance I'm wrong but I don't recall anything in the constitution about selling stuff with or without licenses. I'm sure someone more versed could say for sure with linkage. Of course then you get into defining who is or not a dealer. I don't know how much ammo the guy was trying to sell, but I doubt it was only a couple of boxes.
The cop attempted to tell them a few times that it was illegal for them to sell without a permit because of the city codes, the idiot kept cutting him off screaming it's unconstitutional. Not sure how true that was, but the cop did try. I give props to the cop for holding his cool. I hate assholes that go out of their way to be dicks thinking they're proving some point that doesn't matter.
Skel
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I thought his point was "Look at me, I'm so awesome I can make cops tremble at my knowledge of laws"
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What he says in the video is first, that it's his Constitutional right (it isn't), and that the cop should check the city and state laws. He's also wrong about the city ordinance. Want to bet he's also wrong about the state laws?
The only state law he mentions is that he doesn't need a (state) license to sell ammo, but I'll bet you or anyone else $500 right now that this does not supersede the city ordinance regarding sidewalk vending of any sort in that municipality, for which the municipality requires a license for the vending of a broad panoply of otherwise legal items, ammo included.
One thing I think we all can agree on is that he is in multiple felonious violation of Godwin's law, vertical phone videography, high volume public blowhardism (noise ordinance), and bicyclist whining.
PlanetJosh
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Tell me he doesn't remind someone of an antagonistic uncle, brother or other relative. Not condoning it.
rudeguy
Lifer
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What he says in the video is first, that it's his Constitutional right (it isn't), and that the cop should check the city and state laws. He's also wrong about the city ordinance. Want to bet he's also wrong about the state laws?
The only state law he mentions is that he doesn't need a (state) license to sell ammo, but I'll bet you or anyone else $500 right now that this does not supersede the city ordinance regarding sidewalk vending of any sort in that municipality, for which the municipality requires a license for the vending of a broad panoply of otherwise legal items, ammo included.
One thing I think we all can agree on is that he is in multiple felonious violation of Godwin's law, vertical phone videography, high volume public blowhardism (noise ordinance), and bicyclist whining.
Per ATOT law; vertical video is instant taser to the nuts
amdhunter
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I have never been harassed by a thug. But harassed by police officers more times than I can count.
And guess which ones can legally kill me?
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Respect is a two-way street. And nothing worse than someone flaunting their rights, while shooting in portrait mode. This is a solution looking for a Youtube problem.
Red Squirrel
No Lifer
He's a huge prick for making a vertical video. WHY do people keep doing this? He should have been tased just for that alone.
He was also a prick to the cop, I see his point, but why play that game, cops can easily play the same game with you too by finding something you may be doing wrong. Chances are if the cop dug up the laws he could find something. He handled it really well. I want to buy that cop a coffee.
He was also a prick to the cop, I see his point, but why play that game, cops can easily play the same game with you too by finding something you may be doing wrong. Chances are if the cop dug up the laws he could find something. He handled it really well. I want to buy that cop a coffee.
LOL, that would be a perfect ending. I doubt that they can deny an officer just asking questions about their activities, that cop was cool but I was hoping for an arrest and the inevitable epic squealing this type of ass-wipe would emit.
Ichinisan
Lifer
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He's a prick, but not specifically for what he said. He's a prick for not allowing the officer to speak, even to answer his own questions.
Though I'm fairly certain you have a right to sell your own personal property, you don't have a right to sell it in the street or wherever you want.
Though I'm fairly certain you have a right to sell your own personal property, you don't have a right to sell it in the street or wherever you want.
MarkXIX
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I don't see what is goofy about what I said, what am I missing here? This citizen thought it wise to flaunt his apparent knowledge of a single law to try to undermine that police officer and in effect publicly shame him.
The only real solution to that is that every cop goes to law school and becomes a full fledged attorney in a car, but like I said, those local taxpayers would not likely be happy that it takes 6+ years to train an officer and hundreds of thousands of dollars to do so on top of their extremely high salary that they would command. It might make things better, but municipalities just could not afford it.
Hell, there might be a market here for a smart phone apps for cops just to deal with guys like this. Also note that while I think this citizen was a pompous prick, I never said I thought he was "wrong" necessarily for exercising his rights as he seems to know them.
Id say he is just exercising his rights. It is not his fault the cop nor the majority of he US knows what they are. If they did this wouldnt even be an issue.
Ichinisan
Lifer
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I don't think it's his "right" to sell anything at that location. The officer couldn't even suggest that because the guy kept interrupting him.
He didnt suggest it because he knew he would be wrong and on camera looking like a fool..more of a fool i mean.
purbeast0
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holy shit that guy is a fucking douchebag. he asks the cop the same question about 10 times, and the cop answers him 10 times, and then he keeps asking him the same question. what a piece of shit. that is the exact kind of person i would picture living in hims moms basement then running home to post the video on the internet for "fame".
i'm 5 minutes in and don't think i can stand listening to this guy for 15 minutes.
best line by cop: "I'm not sure if you are mentally stable"
that is the truth, this guy is a fucking nut job.
i'm 5 minutes in and don't think i can stand listening to this guy for 15 minutes.
best line by cop: "I'm not sure if you are mentally stable"
that is the truth, this guy is a fucking nut job.
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