Being a douche or doing the right thing?

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.

That right there moves you to the douche category automatically.

 

[deftron]

totally Summer's Eve

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.

That right there moves you to the douche category automatically.

But what if, if, something happens within the company such as a bomb, money stolen, etc and she/he turns up missing, then what? I know this is worst case scenario, but what if.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.

That right there moves you to the douche category automatically.

But what if, if, something happens within the company such as a bomb, money stolen, etc and she/he turns up missing, then what? I know this is worst case scenario, but what if.

And what if your friend that's US born jokingly says he's going to set fire to work.

Should you report them to HR too?

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.

That right there moves you to the douche category automatically.

But what if, if, something happens within the company such as a bomb, money stolen, etc and she/he turns up missing, then what? I know this is worst case scenario, but what if.

And what if your friend that's US born jokingly says he's going to set fire to work.

Should you report them to HR too?

Depends. What if that person is serious and does have conflicts with the company? What if that person follows through and people lose their lives? Then what? And if you had knowledge that person was going to do that wouldn't you feel like an ass because you could have prevented the loss of life? This person most likely hasn't displayed any reason to alarm anyone. But then again, the hijackers for 9/11 probably didn't either.

 

[amdforever2]

We did get in a fight.

This would be like nuclear payback in a way I guess.




I suppose I'll just keep my mouth shut.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.

That right there moves you to the douche category automatically.

But what if, if, something happens within the company such as a bomb, money stolen, etc and she/he turns up missing, then what? I know this is worst case scenario, but what if.

And what if your friend that's US born jokingly says he's going to set fire to work.

Should you report them to HR too?

Depends. What if that person is serious and does have conflicts with the company? What if that person follows through and people lose their lives? Then what? And if you had knowledge that person was going to do that wouldn't you feel like an ass because you could have prevented the loss of life? This person most likely hasn't displayed any reason to alarm anyone. But then again, the hijackers for 9/11 probably didn't either.

Oh Jesus. :roll:

That's just what we need, a state of paranoia. Your reasoning that on the off-chance something may happen is why he should turn him in is crap. The only reason that you feel justified in doing so is because he's here illegally.

I'm sure you've always turned someone in to HR when they jokingly said they'd like to do anything negative. I mean after all, something COULD happen, right?

:roll:

EDIT: And I also like how you threw in 9/11 for an extra dose of patriotism. We have to make sure we round up the illegals because they caused 9/11, yea!!!

 

[compnovice]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Depends. What if that person is serious and does have conflicts with the company? What if that person follows through and people lose their lives? Then what? And if you had knowledge that person was going to do that wouldn't you feel like an ass because you could have prevented the loss of life? This person most likely hasn't displayed any reason to alarm anyone. But then again, the hijackers for 9/11 probably didn't either.

If he would report for ethical reasons, it is understandable...

If he reports based on your reason, its paranoia... BTW, there are going to be 2000 road deaths tomorrow in the US, stop driving....

EDIT: Too slow to type....

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: amdforever2
How do I know?

They told me.


They trusted me because we're friends.

That right there moves you to the douche category automatically.

But what if, if, something happens within the company such as a bomb, money stolen, etc and she/he turns up missing, then what? I know this is worst case scenario, but what if.

And what if your friend that's US born jokingly says he's going to set fire to work.

Should you report them to HR too?

Depends. What if that person is serious and does have conflicts with the company? What if that person follows through and people lose their lives? Then what? And if you had knowledge that person was going to do that wouldn't you feel like an ass because you could have prevented the loss of life? This person most likely hasn't displayed any reason to alarm anyone. But then again, the hijackers for 9/11 probably didn't either.

Oh Jesus. :roll:

That's just what we need, a state of paranoia. Your reasoning that on the off-chance something may happen is why he should turn him in is crap. The only reason that you feel justified in doing so is because he's here illegally.

I'm sure you've always turned someone in to HR when they jokingly said they'd like to do anything negative. I mean after all, something COULD happen, right?

:roll:

EDIT: And I also like how you threw in 9/11 for an extra dose of patriotism. We have to make sure we round up the illegals because they caused 9/11, yea!!!

I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

 

[compnovice]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

Did the HR laugh at you when you reported the employee who said McD's chicken nuggets can be used as a potent weapon?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

 

[ultimatebob]

Forget HR, turn the bastard into INS. For not doing a proper background check, your employer needs just as big of a dope slap as the illegal worker does.

 

[imported_wicka]

First off: I cannot believe the references to foreign social security numbers. Social security is a US government program. Other countries have their systems set up completely differently.

Secondly: think of it this way, you report the guy, he gets deported back to wherever he's from, and his life is ruined. OR, they find out you know, and maybe you get fired. I'm a douche, but I couldn't live with the former on my conscience.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

That's why I said above, it's a tough situation. Not sure what I would do. I just explained above worst case scenario.

And yes, some of my employees are my friends outside of work. But being a supervisor, I need to seperate friends from work. If they screw up, I have to lay into them. If they screw up bad enough I have to report them to HR. It's my job. I don't have the luxury of playing favorites.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

Of course he would. People have to keep up their E-Image on ATOT of being always perfect and adhering to strict principles no matter how much of an ass it makes them look or how unrealistic their behavior is.

 

[Kelemvor]

If you like the guy, then don't worry about it. However if you don't, you can send an anonymous note to HR or to your local government office or the INS or something. Or you could use it as blackmail and profit from it...

1) Get good information
2) blackmail employee
3) ???
4) Profit!

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

That's why I said above, it's a tough situation. Not sure what I would do. I just explained above worst case scenario.

And yes, some of my employees are my friends outside of work. But being a supervisor, I need to seperate friends from work. If they screw up, I have to lay into them. If they screw up bad enough I have to report them to HR. It's my job. I don't have the luxury of playing favorites.

So now it's "if they screw up bad enough" I have to report them to HR.

What happened to it being your job to report them to HR even when they're joking around?

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

Of course he would. People have to keep up their E-Image on ATOT of being always perfect and adhering to strict principles no matter how much of an ass it makes them look or how unrealistic their behavior is.

Spoken like someone who most likely has never been in a supervisory position for a corporation where politics is number one. Thanks for the flame.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

That's why I said above, it's a tough situation. Not sure what I would do. I just explained above worst case scenario.

And yes, some of my employees are my friends outside of work. But being a supervisor, I need to seperate friends from work. If they screw up, I have to lay into them. If they screw up bad enough I have to report them to HR. It's my job. I don't have the luxury of playing favorites.

So now it's "if they screw up bad enough" I have to report them to HR.

What happened to it being your job to report them to HR even when they're joking around?

Did you come into this thread just to debate? I didn't. I was merely making statements. You're picking a fight.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

Of course he would. People have to keep up their E-Image on ATOT of being always perfect and adhering to strict principles no matter how much of an ass it makes them look or how unrealistic their behavior is.

Spoken like someone who most likely has never been in a supervisory position for a corporation where politics is number one. Thanks for the flame.

No, spoken like someone who knows the real world isn't black and white like you make it out to be.

But hey, if you get off on screwing over others just because you have some over-inflated ego because you've got some supervisor position, by all means keep it up. And watch when your workers wind up getting you canned.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

That's why I said above, it's a tough situation. Not sure what I would do. I just explained above worst case scenario.

And yes, some of my employees are my friends outside of work. But being a supervisor, I need to seperate friends from work. If they screw up, I have to lay into them. If they screw up bad enough I have to report them to HR. It's my job. I don't have the luxury of playing favorites.

So now it's "if they screw up bad enough" I have to report them to HR.

What happened to it being your job to report them to HR even when they're joking around?

Did you come into this thread just to debate? I didn't. I was merely making statements. You're picking a fight.

When you pose an absolutely ridiculous scenario based on paranoia, fear, and false-partiotism, don't expect to get away with it.

 

[shortylickens]

Ethical? Yes.
Moral? Depends on how you were raised.

For me I'd say its immoral. But that where we get into the issue of which is more important, my morals or my ethics.
One of the morals I carry says stick to your ethics.

So I guess for me its a confilct. I'd have to decide which is more important.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm a supervisor. It's my job and duty to report things like that to HR, thank you.

So you would still report him even if you became his friend before he told you that he was an illegal resident?

That's why I said above, it's a tough situation. Not sure what I would do. I just explained above worst case scenario.

And yes, some of my employees are my friends outside of work. But being a supervisor, I need to seperate friends from work. If they screw up, I have to lay into them. If they screw up bad enough I have to report them to HR. It's my job. I don't have the luxury of playing favorites.

So now it's "if they screw up bad enough" I have to report them to HR.

What happened to it being your job to report them to HR even when they're joking around?

Did you come into this thread just to debate? I didn't. I was merely making statements. You're picking a fight.

When you pose an absolutely ridiculous scenario based on paranoia, fear, and false-partiotism, don't expect to get away with it.

Okay i'm out of this thread. You obviously have anger issues. No sense in arguing with someone with a mindstate like yours. Pathetic.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Okay i'm out of this thread. You obviously have anger issues. No sense in arguing with someone with a mindstate like yours. Pathetic.

Toodles! :lips: