Beer snobs must worse than wine snobs

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Anubis

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$12 for a large Chimay at the supermarket. It's certainly worth trying it at least once, assuming you don't get hooked. :D

i bought 10 yesterday
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preslove

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You start every response with something insulting. Do you wish to be taken seriously?

There really isn't much point do anything other than insult someone who is aggressively stupid. No one here is going to convince you that you're wrong.
 

JS80

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Does not compute.

If a person doesn't know what they like, they try different things. The problem is when other people decide what they like or what they MUST have. Your post is a good example. You discount someone's likes as them not actually knowing and then substitute your likes as what's good.

You're part of the problem.

Someone likes sweet white wine. They also "like" Merlot. They go to a steakhouse. Should he order the white wine with his steak or the Merlot? Or should he ask the waiter what he should drink and go with the Cabernet?
 

preslove

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Someone likes sweet white wine. They also "like" Merlot. They go to a steakhouse. Should he order the white wine with his steak or the Merlot? Or should he ask the waiter what he should drink and go with the Cabernet?

Jesus, you anti-snob doofuses are making JS80 seem reasonable!

Wine paring can be very important. A gf of mine made this spicy french beef dish (she was a fantastic cook) that we paired with a pretty good Cabernet. The combination was heavenly and one of the best things I have ever tasted. It would not have been the same with another varietal, not even another red.

Being an anti-snob just makes you aggressively ignorant. While I like good beers, I couldn't care less about having a great TV with the best image quality. When I get a flat screen, I'm going to get the cheapest one I can find. The thing is? I'm not going to insult people who think I have cheap TV because they're TV snobs. It's not my thing, but I recognize that there are good and bad TVs and that some people appreciate the better ones.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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This implies that the only things available are shitty beer and shitty produce. That's not true - good beer and good produce are readily available. It just so happens that economically, there is more demand for the (cheaper) inferior good than there is for the superior variety.

I have never disagreed with you that Americans have shitty taste. I just don't blame the large breweries, corporate farms, or industrial feed lots for that. I happen to think (and this is conjecture) that if you brought the price of Chimay down to the price of Bud Light, you'd still sell more Bud Light. Americans like bland, and they vote with their dollars on that.

The majority of beer is bought at supermarkets and convenience marts. Good beer is not found at either. If Chimay sold for the same price as Bud AND, they spent as much advertising as AB does, no one would drink Bud.

I definitely blame the large American breweries and supermarket chains for the continued crap offerings. People aren't born with good taste or, bad taste for that matter, it is learned.

Taste is not influenced by economics. Taste does not influence economics, although it should. What influences taste is marketing and national accounts which make brands like Bud and MickyD's recognizable from coast to coast. For me, the beer I drink is a personal choice made after considerable thought and comparison. For most, beer is a matter of grabbing a recognized label.
 

chalmers

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Jesus, you anti-snob doofuses are making JS80 seem reasonable!

Wine paring can be very important. A gf of mine made this spicy french beef dish (she was a fantastic cook) that we paired with a pretty good Cabernet. The combination was heavenly and one of the best things I have ever tasted. It would not have been the same with another varietal, not even another red.

Being an anti-snob just makes you aggressively ignorant. While I like good beers, I couldn't care less about having a great TV with the best image quality. When I get a flat screen, I'm going to get the cheapest one I can find. The thing is? I'm not going to insult people who think I have cheap TV because they're TV snobs. It's not my thing, but I recognize that there are good and bad TVs and that some people appreciate the better ones.

Wait, so if you're attacked/made fun of because you don't like all these crazy beers the snobs like, you should just take it up the bum and not defend yourself?

Me: I drank a Miller Lite yesterday.
ATOT snob: lol you suck, drink a real beer.
Me: I'd like to defend myself, but I can't because that would make me aggressively ignorant.

Gotcha.
 

preslove

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Wait, so if you're attacked/made fun of because you don't like all these crazy beers the snobs like, you should just take it up the bum and not defend yourself?

Me: I drank a Miller Lite yesterday.
ATOT snob: lol you suck, drink a real beer.
Me: I'd like to defend myself, but I can't because that would make me aggressively ignorant.

Gotcha.

You could say "I don't care about the quality of beer I consume." If they attack you for that, they're not beer snobs so much as they're just assholes.
 

dainthomas

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You could say "I don't care about the quality of beer I consume." If they attack you for that, they're not beer snobs so much as they're just assholes.

This.

Of course if he said Miller Lite was the greatest beer ever, than that IS being aggressively ignorant.
 
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Jesus, you anti-snob doofuses are making JS80 seem reasonable!

Wine paring can be very important. A gf of mine made this spicy french beef dish (she was a fantastic cook) that we paired with a pretty good Cabernet. The combination was heavenly and one of the best things I have ever tasted. It would not have been the same with another varietal, not even another red.

Being an anti-snob just makes you aggressively ignorant. While I like good beers, I couldn't care less about having a great TV with the best image quality. When I get a flat screen, I'm going to get the cheapest one I can find. The thing is? I'm not going to insult people who think I have cheap TV because they're TV snobs. It's not my thing, but I recognize that there are good and bad TVs and that some people appreciate the better ones.


This.

Being a douche about wine is one thing, but there are different types of wine for a reason. There are good combination of wines that go well with different types of food. Some combination will bring out deeper flavors in both the wine and the good while others will clash terribly.

There is a ton of interesting things in the world of wine.
 

ElFenix

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i knew it was one of the crappy mega brew belgians just reading the description.


the thing i hate about beer snobs is that they're mostly hop heads.
 

Brigandier

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Snobs suck, this is a fact. Someone that likes nice things is not a snob, the person that uses those things to elevate themselves above others is a snob.

I like good recommendations, and I actively seek them out. I do not like when I tell someone their suggestion is invalid because of tastes and I get a lecture on how I suck at life.
 

chalmers

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Snobs suck, this is a fact. Someone that likes nice things is not a snob, the person that uses those things to elevate themselves above others is a snob.

I like good recommendations, and I actively seek them out. I do not like when I tell someone their suggestion is invalid because of tastes and I get a lecture on how I suck at life.

Welcome to ATOT, you must be new. There's plenty of these creatures here.
 

TheVrolok

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i knew it was one of the crappy mega brew belgians just reading the description.


the thing i hate about beer snobs is that they're mostly hop heads.

Count me in the other camp, I don't mind some hops here and there, but it is no where near my favorite taste. There are some IPAs I generally enjoy, and some experimental IPAs that I rather enjoy.. but please, DFA's 120min isn't the greatest beer on the planet just because it's the most hop you could find for your buck at your local bottle shop (IMHO as a non-hophead).
 

Lithium381

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is it sad that i read the description and knew(it was my first guess anyway) which beer it was before i clicked the link :-(
 
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Id make that a trip to belgium and england and leave Germany out of it. The G beer
marketwas not that great the two times I have been there.

This is ATOT, you can take a long walk on a short pier. ;)

I hope to one day take a pilgrimage around England and Germany to see what beer should taste like. I have a feeling all I'll say on the trip is, "Give me the house beer." I have a feeling it'll be the best times of my life.
 

drebo

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hebrew national.

Nathan's.

To the point: Shock Top is nasty compared to Blue Moon. They're both roughly the same price, but Blue Moon is infinitely better tasting. Sure, it's mass market, but that doesn't make it bad. It's tasty by comparison.
 

DrPizza

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Taste is not influenced by economics. Taste does not influence economics, although it should. What influences taste is marketing and national accounts which make brands like Bud and MickyD's recognizable from coast to coast. For me, the beer I drink is a personal choice made after considerable thought and comparison. For most, beer is a matter of grabbing a recognized label.

Exactly. Even Dominoes came out a couple years ago and basically said "yeah, we sold a shit ton of pizza thanks to our advertising, and everyone kept telling us our pizza sucked elephant balls. So, we changed the recipe to something that only sucks donkey balls. You're welcome." Dominoes is a prime example of how marketing can trump a crappy product.

This thread is now about pizza snobs.
 

mugs

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Being an anti-snob just makes you aggressively ignorant. While I like good beers, I couldn't care less about having a great TV with the best image quality. When I get a flat screen, I'm going to get the cheapest one I can find. The thing is? I'm not going to insult people who think I have cheap TV because they're TV snobs. It's not my thing, but I recognize that there are good and bad TVs and that some people appreciate the better ones.

A good TV is measurably and objectively better than a bad TV. You won't ever have someone look at them side by side and say they think the crappy one is better - but they may say that they don't think the better one is worth the price premium.

"Good" beer is subjectively better than "bad" beer. Very often - probably more often than not - a person will taste both and say they prefer the taste of the "bad" beer. But beer snobs tell us we're wrong, we aren't supposed to prefer the taste of the "bad" beer, we just don't know better.

That's why beer snobs are snobs and why there is no such thing as a TV snob.