Beer Keg Ordinance

imported_weadjust

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OXFORD ? If the Oxford Board of Aldermen passes a proposed keg ordinance, party hosts will need to be more careful about serving underage or inebriated guests.

Under the proposal, buying a three-gallon-or-larger container of beer or light wine would require a permit from the city clerk?s office. The purchaser?s name, address and age would be recorded along with the address where the keg will be served.

The purchaser also would sign a statement that he does not intend to serve minors, and no person or address would be allowed more than one keg at a time.

The entire article can be read here:

http://www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=240393&pub=1&div=News

 

Heisenberg

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They passed a state law here a while back requiring kegs to be numbered/registered and the buyer's name be recorded. Oddly enough, sales of cans/bottles skyrocketed after it went into effect.
 

imported_weadjust

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The ordinance is being proposed due to several drinking and driving deaths.

An Oxford police officer was also killed recently when he was dragged by a car on a DUI stop.
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: weadjust
The ordinance is being proposed due to several drinking and driving deaths.

An Oxford police officer was also killed recently when he was dragged by a car on a DUI stop.
It's regrettable those things happened, but IMHO laws like this aren't going to do much to help.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
They passed a state law here a while back requiring kegs to be numbered/registered and the buyer's name be recorded. Oddly enough, sales of cans/bottles skyrocketed after it went into effect.

Same thing happened in NY a few years back (or maybe you're from NY and we're talking about the same thing ;) ).
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: weadjust
The ordinance is being proposed due to several drinking and driving deaths.

An Oxford police officer was also killed recently when he was dragged by a car on a DUI stop.

I wonder if the Rebel Barn will still remain open after this?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Originally posted by: weadjust
The ordinance is being proposed due to several drinking and driving deaths.

An Oxford police officer was also killed recently when he was dragged by a car on a DUI stop.

I wonder if the Rebel Barn will still remain open after this?

Heh, that thing's right there at the entrance to the campus. Always made me laugh.
 

Indolent

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sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?
 

KarenMarie

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Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

Of course!

This is just another law that serves no other purpose than to make a small number of ppl think that something is being done.
 

imported_weadjust

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Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

 

Safeway

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Hmm, nothing like that in Texas yet ... but most big parties just buy a pallet of canned beer.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.
 

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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.

Party is over when the cops get called. Period.

Continuing is asking for trouble, even if you have are sure everyone and everything is legal.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.

The police have zero right or ability to enter a home or domicile without probable cause. If a noise complaint is why they show up then make sure people stop making noise and remain in the house. Keep the door closed and do not allow them permission inside. Then, they have zero reason or cause to believe a keg is inside, so they cannot demand proof of a permit.

Very simple stuff, but frat-boys are stupid, and there will be people clowning around outside, a fight that requires a police response, or something else. If people party inside and don't create a scene the police have zero probable cause to enter or demand any type of permit. End of story.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.

Party is over when the cops get called. Period.

Continuing is asking for trouble, even if you have are sure everyone and everything is legal.

Uh, how so?
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.

The police have zero right or ability to enter a home or domicile without probable cause. If a noise complaint is why they show up then make sure people stop making noise and remain in the house. Keep the door closed and do not allow them permission inside. Then, they have zero reason or cause to believe a keg is inside, so they cannot demand proof of a permit.

Very simple stuff, but frat-boys are stupid, and there will be people clowning around outside, a fight that requires a police response, or something else. If people party inside and don't create a scene the police have zero probable cause to enter or demand any type of permit. End of story.

smart cops will wait until they see the party spilling out and then go up to the house while due cause is out in the yard peeing in the bushes.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.

Party is over when the cops get called. Period.

Continuing is asking for trouble, even if you have are sure everyone and everything is legal.

Uh, how so?

If the cops don't issue you a noise ordinance violation on the spot, they usually let you off with a warning that they will if they have to come back. Usually I take the hint and kick everyone but my close friends out at that point. Plus further pissing off the neighbors is asking for more trouble next time to decide to have a party.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: weadjust
Originally posted by: Indolent
sounds like a useless law. Could you not just go outside of city limits and buy a barrel?

It doesn't matter where you buy the beer. If you have a keg in the city limits and don't have a permit the cops are gonna take your beer.

lol, like that stops anything

No kegs in Utah but everyone just drives to Wyoming to buy them. Highway patrol is camped out on the state line before July 4/Superbowl/etc just itching to pull suspicious cars over but it doesn't really do much.

If the neigbors call in a complaint for noise, bunch of cars on the street, etc. Cops come and ask for a keg permit. Cops take keg/s for no permit. End of party.

Party is over when the cops get called. Period.

Continuing is asking for trouble, even if you have are sure everyone and everything is legal.

Uh, how so?

If the cops don't issue you a noise ordinance violation on the spot, they usually let you off with a warning that they will if they have to come back. Usually I take the hint and kick everyone but my close friends out at that point. Plus further pissing off the neighbors is asking for more trouble next time to decide to have a party.

I was under the assumption that we were talking about Oxford -- a notorious college town.