Been listening to Rush (in small doses)

Hayabusa Rider

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On my lunch break, I sometimes tune between Franken and Rush. Quite a contrast :D

Anyway, Rush has been frothing at the mouth more than I can remember.

Today, Rush said that the UN said Kerry never met with it's representatives, and that discredits him, then a minute or two later said that the UN was complicit with Kerry regarding the 380 or so tons of explosives, and they lied because they want him to beat Bush.

So if they lied about the explosives to get Kerry in, then why did they not say he met with them so he isn't discredited? :confused:

Oxycontin kicking back in?
 

glenn1

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Is he desperate, insane or both?

Neither, he's an entertainer, and I doubt he even believes everything he says. But he'll say whatever it is he thinks or knows his audience wants to hear. Logic or consistency is not a requirement, ratings are. And he must be doing something right considering he has millions of people listening to his routine every day. He'd probably say that Bush was Buddha reincarnated if it brought in another million listeners.
 

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some time ago i heard him argue about the iraq war. Some guy called it and said that it's very dangerous area, because conventional armed forces can't fight guerilla warfare. He brought up the vietnam conflict as an example.

As a rebuttal, Rush was actuall trying to argue that U.S. WON the vietnam war. That was the least time i listened to that station
 

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I only watch him on his nationally televised TV program now.

Oh, wait - that's been gone for 6 years now.

I guess that I don't watch this buffoon at all.

I sure as hell won't listen to him lying on radio.
 

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As a rebuttal, Rush was actuall trying to argue that U.S. WON the vietnam war. That was the least time i listened to that station

hey never lost a battle but they did lose the war. The ratios were ridiculous in our favor. But in the end without the ability to cut the supply off at its head the war was not winnable.

 

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Originally posted by: BDawg
I'm a big fan of 2112 and Hemispheres.

Yeah, me too. They're the absolute best live show too. :)


About Limbaugh, that's just the way he's always been. I swear he invented the neocon debating style of "nanny nanny ha ha". But seriously, it takes that kind of tactics to convince otherwise conservative people to believe in and support what is, in fact, a very liberal agenda, and yet get them to hate the evil liberals at the same time.
 

Jhhnn

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Rush is kinda like a soap opera- miss one episode, and it'll take a week to figure out what's going on...

And he's kinda like hillbilly heroin, oxycodone, in the sense that it takes a while to get hooked, but once you do... it's a real problem...

No treatment at Betty Ford, though- only a miracle can save you.
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
As a rebuttal, Rush was actuall trying to argue that U.S. WON the vietnam war. That was the least time i listened to that station

hey never lost a battle but they did lose the war. The ratios were ridiculous in our favor. But in the end without the ability to cut the supply off at its head the war was not winnable.
Exactly what we face in Iraq.

 

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Why don't you put it in context. He's been talking about Kerry's claims that he met with security council members. Now Kerry, CBS and the UN had a "trap" ready to spring on election night, that 380 tons (0.01% of 400,000), went missing, something the UN has known for 1 1/2 years now.

The funny thing is, I rarely listen to Rush because I'm at work, I just happened to have the day off today.
 

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Is he desperate, insane or both?

He kinda reminds me of the rabid Bush haters here at P&N. 6 of one, half dozen of another.
 

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Originally posted by: ciba
Why don't you put it in context. He's been talking about Kerry's claims that he met with security council members. Now Kerry, CBS and the UN had a "trap" ready to spring on election night, that 380 tons (0.01% of 400,000), went missing, something the UN has known for 1 1/2 years now.

The funny thing is, I rarely listen to Rush because I'm at work, I just happened to have the day off today.

Interesting point.
 

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Originally posted by: ciba
Why don't you put it in context. He's been talking about Kerry's claims that he met with security council members. Now Kerry, CBS and the UN had a "trap" ready to spring on election night, that 380 tons (0.01% of 400,000), went missing, something the UN has known for 1 1/2 years now.

The funny thing is, I rarely listen to Rush because I'm at work, I just happened to have the day off today.

If the "trap" existed, then why did they not just say they met with Kerry, since if they want Bush out saying something that hurts the anti Bush candidate makes no sense.

Another thing. The 380 tons of explosives? Who's fault is that? Blixes! Blix didnt report on explosives. Nevermind that conventional explosives weren't what ANYONE was talking about.

Blix didn't notice the missing explosives? Why would he?

Used to listen to him back in the Clinton days, and he wasn't so bad. Maybe it's the nearness of the election.

I would rather listen to Franken, not because I agree with everything he says, but he can say it without frothing at the mouth.
 

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Another thing. The 380 tons of explosives? Who's fault is that? Blixes! Blix didnt report on explosives. Nevermind that conventional explosives weren't what ANYONE was talking about.

Blix didn't notice the missing explosives? Why would he?

HMX is a dual-use weapon (it can be used to detonate nuclear weapons). Do a little research before you jump to conclusions next time!

Oh, and with the UN"s complicity. Complicity doesn't mean they were working together, they could have been independently working to the same ends.
 

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Originally posted by: ciba
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Another thing. The 380 tons of explosives? Who's fault is that? Blixes! Blix didnt report on explosives. Nevermind that conventional explosives weren't what ANYONE was talking about.

Blix didn't notice the missing explosives? Why would he?

HMX is a dual-use weapon (it can be used to detonate nuclear weapons). Do a little research before you jump to conclusions next time!

Was that on the manifest of items that Blix was responsible for?

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Notice the area was sealed before the war. Afterwards, it was looted. The IAEA, Blix, the UN, whoever could not have known what was going on since the inspectors left and the war begun.

I wasn't concerned about this before the war, but it's somewhere, and it's hella good bomb making stuff. Dual use? If you have the nuclear material and know how and facilities to make a bomb, but no terrorists has that. That's something they would have to get from a country with established programs like NK.
 

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Yes, on the Goods Review List, under:

3.3.2 (Commodity Designator code: MA033200)
Nitramines, Cyclotetramethylenetetranitramine (HMX),
Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (RDX).
 

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Originally posted by: ciba
Yes, on the Goods Review List, under:

3.3.2 (Commodity Designator code: MA033200)
Nitramines, Cyclotetramethylenetetranitramine (HMX),
Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (RDX).

Ha! Got me! :D

Nevertheless see the timing in the link above.
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: ciba
Yes, on the Goods Review List, under:

3.3.2 (Commodity Designator code: MA033200)
Nitramines, Cyclotetramethylenetetranitramine (HMX),
Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (RDX).


What does Blix have to do with this ? We knew about these explosives, we just didn't protect them from being stolen.
 

CaptnKirk

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HMX is a dual-use weapon (it can be used to detonate nuclear weapons). Do a little research before you jump to conclusions next time!

OK you want to play ?

HMX, High Meltingpoint Explosive

It's a derivative of RDX (Rapid Detonation Explosice) and Ammonium Nitrate

Now that in itself is a powerful explosive - but it's NON-NUCLEAR

The application in a neclear detonator is as a focused charge explosive.
That means that if you have a Nuclear Warhead, composed of presicely machined
wedges of Uranium or plutonium, separated from each other by spacers, the device
whidh os shaped like a ball when assembled, can be surrounded by a shell of HMX
which when detonated drives the segments together at the same time to trigger the
reaction at the core of the colapsing mass. Not a big enough 'Bang' no starty nukey.
Not in 'synch' and the core segments tear apart and don't go 'Pop'

Modern Implosion Mechanism

What I find suprising, is how much info has been removed from the Internet.

PS - I know a little about this.
 

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glenn1:

Exactly, entertainment, and very much like Fox's evening shows. Fox learned this lesson from the shock jocks I believe. People want to be titillated. Have BO's problems hurt Fox? NO! Their ratings went UP!!

:)

Too funny, really. And a lot of that "entertainment news" ends up here as FACT. :(

-Robert
 

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Originally posted by: ciba
Why don't you put it in context. He's been talking about Kerry's claims that he met with security council members. Now Kerry, CBS and the UN had a "trap" ready to spring on election night, that 380 tons (0.01% of 400,000), went missing, something the UN has known for 1 1/2 years now.

The funny thing is, I rarely listen to Rush because I'm at work, I just happened to have the day off today.

i agree that context helps when talking about rush but he seems to really be sort of nuts.
anytime ive heard him, he has been very good at walking the line between hyperbole and lying. you really have to pay attention to what he is saying and have a good understanding of what is actually happening in order to filter the truth from his crazy claims. and im going to guess that a lot of his listeners use him as a source rather than entertainment about a source.