Beatles White Album + Jay-Z's Black Album == Grey Album ??

[Analog]

Beatles remix was 'art project'

DJ Danger Mouse, whose Beatles remix album was blocked by record label EMI, has said he never intended to break copyright laws.
The producer mixed The Beatles' White Album with rapper Jay-Z's Black Album to make The Grey Album as a small underground "art project".

Danger Mouse said he wanted to prove "such radical things can really work".

But the Beatles' label has told the DJ and record shops to stop selling the album, which uses unauthorised samples.

"I intended for it to be for friends and for people who knew my stuff. I figured it would get passed around, and it would be this little underground thing, but it kind of took off on its own," said Danger Mouse, whose real name is Brian Burton.

Jay-Z's label, Roc-a-fella Records, did not take any action against Danger Mouse.

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[brxndxn]

Once again, fvck the RIAA. I don't care how stupid this sounds - the RIAA is abusing copyrights and stifling art.

This was on Slashdot.. the general consensus was that this album is worth hearing - but not that great.

 

[Ornery]

Once again, fvck the 'sampling' BS. Write your own sh|t. :|

 

[JonnyBlaze]

the grey album sucks. the brown album, another remix album with all new beats is much better.

JBlaze

 

[Vortex22]

He should have tried Metallica + Beatles... lol

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Once again, fvck the 'sampling' BS. Write your own sh|t. :|

Have you even listened to the Grey Album?

A large part of music is and always has been about borrowing from your peers and making something new with it.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
the grey album sucks. the brown album, another remix album with all new beats is much better.

JBlaze

what is this brown album?!

ive heard the grey one and you're pretty much right. nothing too interesting. i liked the while my guitar gently weeps thing.
that was nice.

 

[Sid59]

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[Ornery]

"...A large part of music is and always has been about borrowing from your peers and making something new with it."

What a steaming pile. May be true for the BS you listen to, but NOTHING like what I do.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Once again, fvck the RIAA. I don't care how stupid this sounds - the RIAA is abusing copyrights and stifling art.

I have both patents and copyrights, and I have been ripped off. All I can say is, WHAT A CROCK! :| I hope, someday, you cut just one hit record, but you never make a penny from it because you get ripped a new asshole by samplers and downloading, freeloading thieves with ethics as piss poor as yours.

With all the remixes and remixes of remixes of remixes, pretty soon, there won't be any new music, and no one will have to know how to actually play any instruments. It'll all be remixes of samples of sampled remix mud! :disgust:

 

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Ornery
Once again, fvck the 'sampling' BS. Write your own sh|t. :|

Have you even listened to the Grey Album?

A large part of music is and always has been about borrowing from your peers and making something new with it.

I heard it. It samples The White Album, BFD. The White Album itself runs with your concept, borrowing from The Beach Boys, Donovan and others to create something new. The Grey Album is Beatles samples over bad hip-hop vocals. The Beastie Boys did it 15 years ago with Paul's Boutique and they did it better.

 

[mugs]

If he didn't intend to violate copyrights, he obviously doesn't understand copyrights at all. I'm with Ornery here.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...A large part of music is and always has been about borrowing from your peers and making something new with it."

What a steaming pile. May be true for the BS you listen to, but NOTHING like what I do.

What kind of music do you listen to? Way back in the day(before your time even:Q) classical composers would take sections out of each others works and incorporate them into their own pieces.

 

[boyRacer]

I like it actually. Pretty cool.

 

[Ornery]

Everything I listen to was able to be recorded on tape, and NOTHING was copied and used in another's work. 'Music' today is fvcking SAD!

 

[alkemyst]

The Beatles suing other artists is like Microsoft attempting to sue Apple for stealing 'windows'.

 

[JonTheBaller]

The White Album (not the Beatles album, but a remix of the Black album by Kno from Cunninlynguists) is the best Black remix.

 

[Amorphus]

Ornery, you don't get the point of the Grey Album, do you? The point wasn't to make some original songs, it was to make an original sound by combining two other sounds. the DJ didn't try to pass it off as his own work ("Yeah, me and mah crew were jammin' late nightaz to make this shiz out"), he just did what DJs do. It's not even sampling, it's mixing.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
What kind of music do you listen to? Way back in the day(before your time even:Q) classical composers would take sections out of each others works and incorporate them into their own pieces.

But they didn't directly steal parts of the original artist's copyrighted, recorded performance. That is theft of unique intellectual property.

 

[luv2chill]

Ornery's just in denial. He doesn't (want to) realise that all music builds on music and musicians that came before it. Doesn't matter if his music was recorded on tape, cd, wax, vinyl, acetate or punch cards.

l2c

P.S. Notice how he didn't actually name any artists.

 

[Ornery]

"...stifling art."

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"... it's mixing."

It's bullshit!

"...original sound by combining two other sounds."

Pathetic!

Ball's in your court to show me REAL artists, like the Beatles, who "borrowed" recordings from their peers.

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...stifling art."

• 

"... it's mixing."

It's bullshit!

"...original sound by combining two other sounds."

Pathetic!

Ball's in your court to show me REAL artists, like the Beatles, who "borrowed" recordings from their peers.

I'm pretty sure Elvis stole "Hound Dog" from somebody else.

 

[Amorphus]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...stifling art."

• 

"... it's mixing."

It's bullshit!

"...original sound by combining two other sounds."

Pathetic!

Ball's in your court to show me REAL artists, like the Beatles, who "borrowed" recordings from their peers.

I'd like to know why you think mixing for fun is bull? It's a new sound, it apparently is enjoyable, and noone ever said the DJ was a "real artist" who composed music. He manipulates what's already there. It's like saying you can have a nut and a bolt, but under no circumstances can you thread one into the other to make something else.

Frankly, at least the mixing takes skill. It's in a different category than standard performing arts, because there's no "substance" to it, per se. But it's still perfectly legitimate, I think.

Even though you don't like it, you don't have to be a narrowminded jerk about it.
*btw, I actually used the word "narrowminded" properly! wow! :Q

 

[Amorphus]

Originally posted by: AvesPKS

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...stifling art."

• 

"... it's mixing."

It's bullshit!

"...original sound by combining two other sounds."

Pathetic!

Ball's in your court to show me REAL artists, like the Beatles, who "borrowed" recordings from their peers.

I'm pretty sure Elvis stole "Hound Dog" from somebody else.

Big Mama Thornton, I believe. It was R&B before it was R&R.

 

[Ornery]

He didn't Karaoke to the original recording, he 'covered' it with his own band.