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bears season may be bad. hester refusing to show up for camp

waggy

No Lifer
http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-bears,0,3335522.story

The most electrifying return man in the league has found a different way to display his elusiveness.

Devin Hester told the Tribune on Wednesday he intends to hold out of training camp until the Bears grant him a new deal.

"I'm not coming," he said by phone. "I have to make a statement. I showed by going to [organized team activities] that I was a team player. But then, I just felt they weren't taking it seriously that I wanted to get a new deal.

"I can't go out and play this year making $445,000. Come on, man."

Hester is entering the third year of the four-year deal he signed as a rookie second-round draft choice.

The Bears have discussed the possibility of a raise with his agent, Eugene Parker, and each side has exchanged proposals. Complicating matters is the Bears' inability to measure Hester's worth against any other player's contract.

He wants to be paid as a receiver, but the Bears are willing to pay him only as the league's highest-paid special teams player?a deal that no doubt would fall short of Hester's mark.

Efforts to reach Parker were unsuccessful. Bears general manager Jerry Angelo expressed disappointment but left the window to negotiations open. The Bears placed Hester on the reserve/did not report list after he was a no-show Wednesday.

"You should pay me like I'm one of a kind," Hester said. "It's like dating a girl. When you find somebody who is real special, you're going to do whatever it takes to keep her. You might cut back on what you're giving your mom to give to her. And that's how I feel they should treat me."

Hester wouldn't estimate how much money he's seeking or how long a term the deal should be. The Bears awarded contract extensions to Tommie Harris, Brian Urlacher, Alex Brown, Robbie Gould, Desmond Clark and Kyle Orton this off-season. Lance Briggs, Rex Grossman and Rashied Davis signed new deals.

Hester will be fined approximately $15,000 per day if he continues to hold out.

"I'm like this?it's not worth it to show up," he said.

Hester received calls from several of his teammates over the last two days.

"I told him to just handle his business and not let this affect his season," Harris said. "There's a point that you have to know, 'Hey, OK, this is not going to get done.' So he has to get here to benefit him and his family. You don't want to miss out the money that they do owe you, that you've already earned."

Hester said coach Lovie Smith called Wednesday and said the team didn't feel the same without him. Smith verified his comment.

"I am saying that?it's not the same," he said. "Every team is better with Hester out there. But these things happen. ? I don't think I've ever been to a training camp where you don't have a couple of surprises."

Harris agreed with Smith's comments on the team missing Hester.

"You know there are going to be two critical plays in a game, and he's going to make one of them," Harris said. "That dude is special, man. We need him here."

Hester has 11 kick returns for touchdowns in two seasons, a total that ranks fourth in NFL history. Last season, he made the Pro Bowl for the second consecutive year as a return man after setting the single-season NFL record with six kick returns for touchdowns (four punts, two kickoffs).

"Everybody in their right mind understands why I'm doing this," Hester said. "For me to have a season like I did last year and getting paid like this, it's not fair. ? I deserve more, and that's just the way I feel."




can't play makeing $445k a year? yeah fuck you. while i agree he desrves a slight pay raise WTF is he nuts?

should be interesting to see what they are going to do. i sure he gets a big payout. but personally i hate it when fuckers sign a contract then say gimmie more or im not comeing in.
 
May be bad? You guys still have two complete GIMPS for your quarterbacks. Who are you kidding thinking that you'll actually be good?
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
May be bad? You guys still have two complete GIMPS for your quarterbacks. Who are you kidding thinking that you'll actually be good?

im hopeing tht maybe this is the year rex gets his shit together. ...yeah who am i jokeing he wont.


 
so this retard signed a contract for 4 years, does 2 yrs of it and wants to modify the contract. Id tell him to fvck off, and sue him if he doesnt show up when he should based on his contract.
 
Can't play for 445k?

Man, I'm gonna email my boss. Tell him I'm holding out of next week's project onboarding until I get a new deal.
 
I guess none of you understand how NFL contracts work. If he signed a 50 million deal for 5 years. That is 10 million a year. If he breaks his leg on day 1 of year 1, the team can cut him and not pay him a DIME.

Teams hold all the cards and these players know it. A contract in the NFL is NOT guaranteed money. The team can decide at any point to cut a player and not pay anymore. The only guaranteed money is signing bonuses. And teams have tried to recoup signing bonuses in the past.

So yeah this guy is trying to look out for himself. The team GREALY benefited from him last year. He wants a fair salary. The NFL can decide at any point that they don't want to pay him anymore if he isn't providing the services he needs.
 
Seriously, I'd love to go out onto a field maybe 10 times a game and make half a mil a year plus all the perks the NFL has.
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
I guess none of you understand how NFL contracts work. If he signed a 50 million deal for 5 years. That is 10 million a year. If he breaks his leg on day 1 of year 1, the team can cut him and not pay him a DIME.

Teams hold all the cards and these players know it. A contract in the NFL is NOT guaranteed money. The team can decide at any point to cut a player and not pay anymore. The only guaranteed money is signing bonuses. And teams have tried to recoup signing bonuses in the past.

So yeah this guy is trying to look out for himself. The team GREALY benefited from him last year. He wants a fair salary. The NFL can decide at any point that they don't want to pay him anymore if he isn't providing the services he needs.

Yea but you foget most of those 5 year 50million deals are 15 million up front and then you cut the rest over 5 years. Heck even Vick kept most of his money after pleading guilty to a felony and not working. What you talk about are the old days, not what ahppens anymore.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Codewiz
I guess none of you understand how NFL contracts work. If he signed a 50 million deal for 5 years. That is 10 million a year. If he breaks his leg on day 1 of year 1, the team can cut him and not pay him a DIME.

Teams hold all the cards and these players know it. A contract in the NFL is NOT guaranteed money. The team can decide at any point to cut a player and not pay anymore. The only guaranteed money is signing bonuses. And teams have tried to recoup signing bonuses in the past.

So yeah this guy is trying to look out for himself. The team GREALY benefited from him last year. He wants a fair salary. The NFL can decide at any point that they don't want to pay him anymore if he isn't providing the services he needs.

Yea but you foget most of those 5 year 50million deals are 15 million up front and then you cut the rest over 5 years. Heck even Vick kept most of his money after pleading guilty to a felony and not working. What you talk about are the old days, not what ahppens anymore.

Yeah how much do you think Hester got up front? He was a low draft pick. No one knew his potential in the NFL game. So the bears gave him a salary that fit. This guy would never argue that his original salary wasn't appropriate for the time.

BUT he has now proven his worth. If he blows out his knee tomorrow, the bears essentially ripped him off. Careers do not last long in the NFL and this guy wants pay that represents how much his SKILLS are worth. It is no different from any person here going and finding another job because his current job did not pay him what he is worth.

The difference is that Hester has NO opportunity to go work for another team that will pay him what he is worth. The bears hold all the cards.

It is a one way contract. The bears can break the contract at any time but the players can't.
 
There are quite a few sack of shit players in the NFL who make Hester's salary look like chump change and deserve less than Hester. He has won more than a few games all by himself over the past couple of years. It's just business. He's one of the top playmakers in the NFL today and if the Bears won't pay him for it, about 18 other teams will quickly step up. Get off his jock. Contracts in the NFL are generally very liquid. The Bears management should have done the right thing by taking initiative to renegotiate his contract to pay him what he's worth once they saw he was becoming one of the elite returners in NFL history.

FWIW, I hate the bears.
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Codewiz
I guess none of you understand how NFL contracts work. If he signed a 50 million deal for 5 years. That is 10 million a year. If he breaks his leg on day 1 of year 1, the team can cut him and not pay him a DIME.

Teams hold all the cards and these players know it. A contract in the NFL is NOT guaranteed money. The team can decide at any point to cut a player and not pay anymore. The only guaranteed money is signing bonuses. And teams have tried to recoup signing bonuses in the past.

So yeah this guy is trying to look out for himself. The team GREALY benefited from him last year. He wants a fair salary. The NFL can decide at any point that they don't want to pay him anymore if he isn't providing the services he needs.

Yea but you foget most of those 5 year 50million deals are 15 million up front and then you cut the rest over 5 years. Heck even Vick kept most of his money after pleading guilty to a felony and not working. What you talk about are the old days, not what ahppens anymore.

Yeah how much do you think Hester got up front? He was a low draft pick. No one knew his potential in the NFL game. So the bears gave him a salary that fit. This guy would never argue that his original salary wasn't appropriate for the time.

BUT he has now proven his worth. If he blows out his knee tomorrow, the bears essentially ripped him off. Careers do not last long in the NFL and this guy wants pay that represents how much his SKILLS are worth. It is no different from any person here going and finding another job because his current job did not pay him what he is worth.

The difference is that Hester has NO opportunity to go work for another team that will pay him what he is worth. The bears hold all the cards.

It is a one way contract. The bears can break the contract at any time but the players can't.


Oh I am sorry, did they have a gun to his head and make him sign? If he did not like what they were offering then he should have balked and signed with another team.
 
Just bein a businessman. Complaining about $400k+/yr compared to most situations is pretty redonkulous, but not in the NFL, and certainly not with what he contributed to the team.

I hate the Bears though, so fuck em both.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Codewiz
I guess none of you understand how NFL contracts work. If he signed a 50 million deal for 5 years. That is 10 million a year. If he breaks his leg on day 1 of year 1, the team can cut him and not pay him a DIME.

Teams hold all the cards and these players know it. A contract in the NFL is NOT guaranteed money. The team can decide at any point to cut a player and not pay anymore. The only guaranteed money is signing bonuses. And teams have tried to recoup signing bonuses in the past.

So yeah this guy is trying to look out for himself. The team GREALY benefited from him last year. He wants a fair salary. The NFL can decide at any point that they don't want to pay him anymore if he isn't providing the services he needs.

Yea but you foget most of those 5 year 50million deals are 15 million up front and then you cut the rest over 5 years. Heck even Vick kept most of his money after pleading guilty to a felony and not working. What you talk about are the old days, not what ahppens anymore.

Yeah how much do you think Hester got up front? He was a low draft pick. No one knew his potential in the NFL game. So the bears gave him a salary that fit. This guy would never argue that his original salary wasn't appropriate for the time.

BUT he has now proven his worth. If he blows out his knee tomorrow, the bears essentially ripped him off. Careers do not last long in the NFL and this guy wants pay that represents how much his SKILLS are worth. It is no different from any person here going and finding another job because his current job did not pay him what he is worth.

The difference is that Hester has NO opportunity to go work for another team that will pay him what he is worth. The bears hold all the cards.

It is a one way contract. The bears can break the contract at any time but the players can't.


Oh I am sorry, did they have a gun to his head and make him sign? If he did not like what they were offering then he should have balked and signed with another team.

same goes for the teams that release players they've signed to a contract already. I'd do the same thing... all it takes is one injury and then Hester's fucked.
 
They could pay him like a receiver if they would play him like one. If they had a QB that could actually do his job, they might want to pass to Hester. 😛

I agree with thim though. 445k is pretty low for how good he is. If they sign it based on a 2 year deal and bump him up, he'll be happy and their investment will be low. I don't know if I'd like to watch the Bears play if Hester wasn't there to make kickoffs interesting every 3 minutes after the other team scores.
 
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi


I agree with thim though. 445k is pretty low for how good he is. If they sign it based on a 2 year deal and bump him up, he'll be happy and their investment will be low. I don't know if I'd like to watch the Bears play if Hester wasn't there to make kickoffs interesting every 3 minutes after the other team scores.

:laugh::thumbsup:

 
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