Be patient or go all out now?

[Ozbro89]

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Mainly Gaming and a bit of video editing

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
1200 dollar

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
Europe

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US, please post a link to the vendor you'll be buying from.
We can't be expected to scour the internet on your behalf, chasing down deals in your specific country... Again, help us, help YOU.
European Amazon

5. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
Intel mostly, with a combination of MSI/Asus

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Nvidia 1080

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Default

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using?
2k

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.
That's the question, should I upgrade now or wait? I currently have a i5 2500k, which is a bottleneck using it with 1080, however it does it's job. Aside from some frame drops, lags, and 100% CPU usage. I can hold out if you guys think something great is coming up in the next year. Couldn't really find much usefull info myself.

10. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?
No

 

[Flayed]

I would wait to see what AMD bring to the table. There will be an announcement on Monday.

 

[Sgt. York]

Go all out now. There is always going to be something new/better in six months.

 

[mwforrest7]

Looks like the new Ryzen 3000s are the way to go. Release date of July 7th.

 

[mopardude87]

I paired my 1070ti with a i7 8700 non k and it suffered no bottlenecks at 2k for me while it did with my i5 4460 at both 1080p and 1440p.Now at 4k and well the cpu is miles away from being the bottleneck.By the time the cpu bottlenecks a gpu i am willing to bet the current cpus and Ryzen 3000 will be trash in comparison to what is new.

At default currently you could run a i7 8700 non k as it appears you don't overclock and games like BF5 certainly have the lead on this chip . You compromise on max fps with current Ryzen or get max with a i7 8700 non k. Even at 2k i would be surprised with your card if there would be a fps difference between a i7 8700 non k and a Ryzen 3000. Now if you had a 2080 ti then JUST maybe you would run into bottlenecks especially if you don't overclock. I have heard others mention these bottlenecks already for 2k but idk if those are your 144hz chasers or what. Having a mere 1070ti i wouldn't know about those bottlenecks till i put my 1070ti into my spare fx 8350 rig and run 1080p on the living rooms 50'' tv.

Not even regretting this purchase and can certainly say not even Ryzen 3000 is phasing my purchasing decision even though when i bought it the 3000 series was pure speculation at best. Outside of extreme high fps cases the 8700 even at stock or in this case the 8700 non k simply delivers way more then enough fps.If your a 60hz gamer then absolutely no doubt in my mind the 8700 non k will be more then sufficient.

Others can argue your best off with current Ryzen and honestly that would work too.Just have to prioritize whats more important.But going all out now is what i would do.

 

[mwforrest7]

An i7 8700 would indeed be a nice match with the GeForce 1080. According to a bottle neck calculator it would be a .05% bottleneck... or basically 0 which is ideal.

That said, the 8700 is listed at $300 and the new Ryzen 3700X is going to start at $329. According to the AMD reveal the 3700X compared to the 9700K will have +1% performance in single thread and +28% in multithread.

Just food for thought but maybe you'd want to spend the extra $30 for a processor that might handle a future GPU upgrade. Or if you're into video editing (you mentioned the possibility) then that extra multithreaded performance may be welcomed. Even if you want to stick with intel, it'd still not be a bad idea to wait roughly 1 month and a week for the release of Ryzen 3000 series because intel will likely drop prices to remain competitive.

 

[Flayed]

Yes the 3700X looks like the one to get at that price plus it's only 65W and comes with a free heatsink. The 3900X also looks tempting although I'm not sure what I would do with all those cores lol

 

[mopardude87]

Yes the 3700X looks like the one to get at that price plus it's only 65W and comes with a free heatsink. The 3900X also looks tempting although I'm not sure what I would do with all those cores lol

For American shoppers,a nice alternative assuming they was in the same position as the op would be the $209 Ryzen 2700 on Newegg. If i was building something new right now i would prob be all over that chip over even the 8700. Hard to argue with 16 threads while even with Ryzen 3000 your dropping at release $120 more for their first initially released 16 threaded chip.

Need to see if such deals can be had over seas though on Newegg. If so this 2700 deal is hard to pass up i think. It gives you 10 more threads then Intels i5 8400 at nearly the same price and well it still is landing just $9 more then the cheapest 12 threaded Ryzen 3000.

 

[BoomerD]

Just keep in mind...there's ALWAYS some "newest and greatest thing" coming, right around the corner. ALWAYS. Sometimes they actually ARE much better, sometimes not...at least not right out of the box. (Anyone remember the Cougar Point fiasco when Ivy Bridge was first released?)
IMO, IF you opt to wait for something new...wait a bit longer for that new tech to get the bugs worked out.

 

[mopardude87]

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700/14.html

Some very nice 2k numbers showing how well off even a 2700 would be with the 1080ti which can be had for $500 or so used? Last review i saw of the RTX 2080 showed it in non RT games showing nearly equal or slighter better gaming performance running ball park $800 new? Will go to show that a 2060 or 2070 will not be bottlenecked currently while still having more then enough playable fps.

I keep giving this 2700 some high praise for higher resolution gaming but meh when i got my i7 8700 i had plans of sticking to 1080p. If i saw myself sitting in front of a 4k tv 6 months later i would have jumped on the 2700 myself. Then again usual that is a $279 cpu and not $209. Circumstances made the i7 8700 for me a easy upgrade and affordable when i was able to borrow a Z370 for months that a friend bought mistakenly thinking it would work with his 7700k. He wasn't to pressing on being reimbursed for the motherboard as a 8350 wasn't bottlenecking a 1080ti at 4k. Eventually i got a decent deal on the board and he was out from under his 8350 and running that 7700k.I pressed more to pay him sooner but he was more worried about me getting my build where i wanted it first. After all i was sitting on a i5 4460 with 8gb dealing with 1080p bottlenecks and stuttering on my 1070ti.

 

[fire400]

Keep your old chassis and GPU

NEW PARTS:
i7 CPU 9700 - $330
Mobo - $70
32GB DDR4 - $130
1000W Plat PSU - $200

$730, no taxes included.

Stock air cooling.
As far as OS, you can figure that out. PSU, whatever floats your boat, that's just a good maximum, higher quality and more juice is always better than undercutting the fins.

I don't see what the hold up is on waiting around if you're ready to upgrade, sitting around with a gen2 as of 2019, is sorta sad if you really hate the frames it's putting out.

Run the new rig for a few months and then decide what you want to upgrade/swap/mod. Going all out doesn't mean getting ripped off, it could mean getting quality parts that work in your budget rather than dealing with the frustration of low-end/cheap configurations.

Move stock SSD's over or purchase new NVME SSD's.

 

[DrMrLordX]

@Ozbro89

Honestly, wait for Zen2. Then recalibrate your expectations.

I would hate to be the guy buying a 9700, 9700k, or 9900k today.