BCS... very well designed?
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Why? Then its going to be like mens basketball, where the whole season is basically useless. Only the team playing well towards the end of the season is crowned national champs.
you still have to win your bowl game to be champ. I think they should put the top 4 in a 2 game playoff, that would only add 1 game to the mix and would be a pretty good system, it should be a little easier to decide the top 4 teams that should have a chance instead of the top 2.
if it were that way, k-state would be the national champions
the way they played last night, they wouldve beaten anyone.
k-state played a good game for 3 quarters, OU played a good game for 1 quarter.
playoffs wont work. how many team play off are you suggesting?
4?
6?
either way that adds 2 more games. are teams gonna play upwards of 15-17 games in a season and it running thru februrary?
4 team playoffs WOULD NOT make the regular season pointless. That basically means two losses and you are out!! Consider how many big time teams play each other (meaning one good team would have to lose. EX: Mich. vs. OSU, OU vs. Texas, Florida vs. FSU vs. Miami, Nebraska vs. Colorado, Tenn. vs. Florida, etc.!!) the regular season would be far from pointless. Plus, I feel that only conference champions should be able to play. Meaning NO OU this year. This would also ensure the regular season means something.
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That would only work if all conferences played a championship game. Right now a conference like the Big 12 or the SEC could, and sometimes do, screw themselves out of having a team in the national championship. Either all conferences should play a championship game or none of them should.
No, OU is now ranked #3 in ESPN poll, but the thing is, the #1 team on that poll (USC) will probably not play for national title, it will be OU and LSU (#2).
People may complain about this, but what's the point of the BCS ranking thing if it doesn't differ at all from the polls?
Uh no they wouldnt. Last night was still part of the regular season. NCAA Basketball, has a regular season, then a tournament of 64 teams(basically a playoff).
What they need to do is have a 10 game season and championship games, every conference should have a championship game. Then have the playoffs which would add 1-2 games to every team in the playoff. Then have the bowl games. To select the 8 playoff teams they could use the BCS system. The 6 losers would play in the other 3 major bowl games.
Im sorry buy USC shouldnt be #1 in the human polls. LSU should be. The thumping they gave UGA lastnight should have propelled them past USC. USC is over rated. #2 okay, sure, but LSU has played tougher teams than USC, USC doesnt deserve to be #1.
well, of all the scenarios that we all dreamt up at various stages, this is the absolute Best / Worst depending on your perspective.
imagine this, USC #1 in COACHES poll AND AP Poll. at the end of the bowl games, the AP has no responsibility to the BCS to vote the way the BCS wants, so if USC beats michigan, in all likelihood, the AP will vote USC #1.
but here's the really interesting part, the COACHES are obligated to vote the winner of the BCS championship game #1 BUT they voted USC #1 this week and IF USC beats Michigan, HOW CAN YOU DEMOTE USC on a WIN??
imagine this, USC #1 in COACHES poll AND AP Poll. at the end of the bowl games, the AP has no responsibility to the BCS to vote the way the BCS wants, so if USC beats michigan, in all likelihood, the AP will vote USC #1.
but here's the really interesting part, the COACHES are obligated to vote the winner of the BCS championship game #1 BUT they voted USC #1 this week and IF USC beats Michigan, HOW CAN YOU DEMOTE USC on a WIN??
you guys are forgetting about the money aspect of the bowls. what prevents College football from having a playoff system is that the teams and conferences involved in the bowls WON'T LET THEM GO. there is TOOO much revenue generated from these bowl games.
Sure it is. LSU is number one or two in every computer poll, and USC is only higher than LSU in ONE computer poll. The AP and USA/Today are stupid because they place more emphasis on an early season loss than a late season loss. Let's say that USC had lost to CAL this past week. You know that they would have dropped an incredible amount. That's the problem with the human polls, is that they take into account WHEN the loss was. They don't care about WHO as much as WHEN and that is just silly. No one can tell me that CAL is a better team than KSU or Florida.
BCS is perfect!
Not really, but this page does make some decent arguments against USC.
I still want a playoff though.
Not really, but this page does make some decent arguments against USC.
I still want a playoff though.
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In my opinion, the BCS is a flawed system, but it's a step in the right direction. Some changes (I wouldn't be against a playoff at all, even one using the BCS rankings to determine a playoff bracket) are definitely in order since part of the point is to eliminate split national championships, which is definitely a possibility. To say that USC isn't playing for the national championship is stupid, because they are. They're #1 in both polls, but the one that matters is the AP poll. The USA Today/ESPN poll is obligated to vote the winner of the Sugar Bowl the champion but the AP can do whatever they want. If USC wins, there's no way they'll lose their top spot.
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Battlecruisers are strong since it only takes 6unites now, but problem is, it takes long to build them, i think battlecruisers and lot of science vessle will even things out.
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Wrong thread I think
As for the subject at hand, why not just have the winner of the Sugar play the Winner of the Rose bowl. That should settle things
ohhh, and make more money for everyone since that's what most of this is about anyway.
actually, don't 4 teams actually make the BCS games?? now all you need to do is go the next step, the winners of the respective games play each other, and have 1 play 4 and 2 play 3 vs the 1 play 2 and 3 play 4 format they have now.
that's all it would take to make the bcs system as we know it now into a playoff system.
i know, that shud take care of these arguments
well either way i am looking forward to the USC/Michigan match up, they are both attacking teams, it shud be good
maybe they wont be officially national champion but they had a good season no matter what and a win over Michigan will reaffirm that fact
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As far as I'm concerned, they will be national champions as well. It'll be interesting to see in places like an almanac where they list the split titles if they list USC if they win and OU/LSU.
I think it'd be fun to see the winner of the Rose Bowl play the winner of the Sugar Bowl, though. Both should be great games.
no way that michigan should be considered a national champion over the winner of the LSU OU game.
IF USC wins, you have a debate, IF michigan wins, NO DEBATE.
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Oh, I agree. Michigan's a good team, but they're not one of the three best teams in the nation, no doubt about that. I think USC will win the Rose Bowl. It'd still be a fun game to see.Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
no way that michigan should be considered a national champion over the winner of the LSU OU game.
IF USC wins, you have a debate, IF michigan wins, NO DEBATE.
Edit: Rose and Sugar aside, I'm still surprised at the Fiesta and Orange selections. I thought FSU-KSU was a much more attractive matchup than Miami-FSU. I love watching Miami and FSU play during the regular season, but they're playing Labor Day weekend, too. You can only have too much of a good thing. That and I wanted a Miami-OSU rematch.
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