BCS Rankings Revealed on Fox Sports

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
I agree that TN deserves to be in top 10 (after all they DID beat Cal). However, the large margins Cal has been winning every game since that loss has given them a much higher score. I'd say the most overrated team on the list is Auburn since they lost to an unranked team (at the time). However, ND does NOT deserve to outrank texas and Cal. Both texas and cal have had much harder opponents and larger win margins. I'm also surprised that Michigan wasn't #2, USC has barely been getting by in the past few games.

btw: here's the complete rankings- http://cfn.scout.com/2/579576.html

Link has popups that turn heads at work... careful.

 

[Feldenak]

War Damn Eagle!

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas went from #2 to #9 ?!?!?!

That would be from last year to this year

edit: oh, and I wouldnt mind seeing a championship involving the big east. It would finally expose how overrated their teams are (especially against a big ten defensive powerhouse like michigan)

 

[Mermaidman]

Call me biased, but I believe Texas is better than ~half the teams in the Top 10.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Call me biased, but I believe Texas is better than ~half the teams in the Top 10.

Why is that everyone seems to think Texas is so good this year? So far, they've played two decent teams (the only two teams you've played with a winning record). They lost one and won one. So that means Texas should be right in the middle of the pack of the good teams. Heck, you let BAYLOR be up 10 to 0 in the first quarter.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Safeway
Texas went from #2 to #9 ?!?!?!

That would be from last year to this year

edit: oh, and I wouldnt mind seeing a championship involving the big east. It would finally expose how overrated their teams are (especially against a big ten defensive powerhouse like michigan)

Overrated = Big East = you are a fool. West Virginia is the SEC champion from last year, do you have amnesia? I think if ANYTHING, this year has exposed what a fraud the ACC has been. Clemson and Wake as their best teams? I'm rofl! As an aside, I'm so glad Miami left the Big East, their whole team should be suspended for the rest of the season.

WVU vs OSU in the title game, Troy Smith vs Steve Slaton for the Heisman. All of these threads are absolutely useless because this is what the outcome will be. Coach Rod's revolutionary spread offense will give OSU the test of its life (even though OSU and USC came to Morgantown during the offseason to study it).

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I think Auburn is the most overrated right now. Go Vols!

Auburn (with one loss) ahead of undefeated WVU is a freaking joke. WVU is the reigning SEC champion from last year.

 

[Mermaidman]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Call me biased, but I believe Texas is better than ~half the teams in the Top 10.

Why is that everyone seems to think Texas is so good this year? So far, they've played two decent teams (the only two teams you've played with a winning record). They lost one and won one. So that means Texas should be right in the middle of the pack of the good teams. Heck, you let BAYLOR be up 10 to 0 in the first quarter.

I think Ohio State is better than "decent." As for the early Baylor lead, I recall several other top teams having to rally from deficits. Wasn't OSU down early to . . . was it Troy St? And USC vs ASU. Anyway, I did say I am biased

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Call me biased, but I believe Texas is better than ~half the teams in the Top 10.

Why is that everyone seems to think Texas is so good this year? So far, they've played two decent teams (the only two teams you've played with a winning record). They lost one and won one. So that means Texas should be right in the middle of the pack of the good teams. Heck, you let BAYLOR be up 10 to 0 in the first quarter.

I think Ohio State is better than "decent." As for the early Baylor lead, I recall several other top teams having to rally from deficits. Wasn't OSU down early to . . . was it Troy St? And USC vs ASU. Anyway, I did say I am biased

No doubt OSU is sick and the undisputed favorite to win it all. Yeah as far as the falling behind factor, it doesn't mean anything. WVU was down to SU 7-0 in the 1st, then proceeded to hit them with 457 yards rushing with Pat White scoring 4 TDs on the ground. Maybe you could argue if a team was only up by one score in the last quarter (like Louisville yesterday) but overall that isn't a huge deal, otherwise USC wouldn't be number 3.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I think Auburn is the most overrated right now. Go Vols!

Auburn (with one loss) ahead of undefeated WVU is a freaking joke. WVU is the reigning SEC champion from last year.

SEC champion?, wvu plays in the big east

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I think Auburn is the most overrated right now. Go Vols!

Auburn (with one loss) ahead of undefeated WVU is a freaking joke. WVU is the reigning SEC champion from last year.

SEC champion?, wvu plays in the big east

He's harping on WVU beating UGA in the bowl game. IMO, LSU was the best team in the SEC last year not UGA (who just lost to Vandy).

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I think Auburn is the most overrated right now. Go Vols!

Auburn (with one loss) ahead of undefeated WVU is a freaking joke. WVU is the reigning SEC champion from last year.

THANK YOU! Enough pissing and moaning about UWV not playing anyone when just about the entire team is returning from their Sugar Bowl dominance of Georgia. I know that was last year and this is now, but it was essentially a road game for them and they still whipped up on the SEC champion under one of the biggest spotlights for this team in decades, if that doesn't show you they can at least challenge most of these major conference teams then you're delusional or purposely ignorant.

I'm not gonna bellyache over Auburn being ahead of UWV right now, I think the rankings as a whole are pretty good and predict things will change with time. But if UWV beats Louisville and they still arn't at least #4 in the BCS then something is terribly wrong.

 

[Fingolfin269]

This is such a joke. Cal ahead of Tennessee? How much weight do the computers put on head to head matchups? These rankings really mean nothing right now but that is just idiotic and anyone who watched that game knows it. Tennessee's only loss was by 1 point to Florida. 1 point. Cal, on the other hand, was completely dominated.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

THANK YOU! Enough pissing and moaning about UWV not playing anyone when just about the entire team is returning from their Sugar Bowl dominance of Georgia. I know that was last year and this is now, but it was essentially a road game for them and they still whipped up on the SEC champion under one of the biggest spotlights for this team in decades, if that doesn't show you they can at least challenge most of these major conference teams then you're delusional or purposely ignorant.

I'm not gonna bellyache over Auburn being ahead of UWV right now, I think the rankings as a whole are pretty good and predict things will change with time. But if UWV beats Louisville and they still arn't at least #4 in the BCS then something is terribly wrong.

The final score was 38-35, hardly domination.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
This is such a joke. Cal ahead of Tennessee? How much weight do the computers put on head to head matchups? These rankings really mean nothing right now but that is just idiotic and anyone who watched that game knows it. Tennessee's only loss was by 1 point to Florida. 1 point. Cal, on the other hand, was completely dominated.

The computers are stupidly forced to ignore the points. Thus, as far as the computers know, Tennessee's loss was just as big as Cal's loss. I think points should matter, but the BCS needs to be changed to allow computers to use points.

Head-to-head matchups tend to have very little weight. Think about it. Suppose you have 13 games. Each game can only have a 1/13 = 7.7% impact on your position. If you have 12 good games and one bad head-to-head matchup, that one bad game can't change your position much.

 

[ElFenix]

SEC is the most overrated conference in the history of sports. they have a bunch of teams that are inconsistent and horrendous on offense (auburn did not score an offensive touchdown). the best team in the league got blown out by USC. the defending champs (who are still ranked in some polls) almost lost to colorado (potentially the worst team in all of 1A football), at home no less. and yet they get tons of computer love because a bunch of mediocre teams playing a bunch of other mediocre teams makes at least a couple of them look like they're decent. that bias in the human polls and the inherent flaw of the computers (who can't watch games, so can't tell that teams are mediocre) has pumped up the SEC (and USC, who is only 8 points better than baylor). the biggest problem with the SEC is that teams are unable to find the endzone. no, it isn't good defense. it's craptacular offense. it's not good football.



and not including margin of victory is the dumbest thing ever. margin matters. yes, games can be closer than the score would indicate (auburn-florida, for example), but those games are not common.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
SEC is the most overrated conference in the history of sports. they have a bunch of teams that are inconsistent and horrendous on offense (auburn did not score an offensive touchdown). the best team in the league got blown out by USC. the defending champs (who are still ranked in some polls) almost lost to colorado (potentially the worst team in all of 1A football), at home no less. and yet they get tons of computer love because a bunch of mediocre teams playing a bunch of other mediocre teams makes at least a couple of them look like they're decent. that bias in the human polls and the inherent flaw of the computers (who can't watch games, so can't tell that teams are mediocre) has pumped up the SEC (and USC, who is only 8 points better than baylor). the biggest problem with the SEC is that teams are unable to find the endzone. no, it isn't good defense. it's craptacular offense. it's not good football.

This is laughable so I won't even respond other than to say you just called Arkansas the best team in the SEC.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: ElFenix
SEC is the most overrated conference in the history of sports. they have a bunch of teams that are inconsistent and horrendous on offense (auburn did not score an offensive touchdown). the best team in the league got blown out by USC. the defending champs (who are still ranked in some polls) almost lost to colorado (potentially the worst team in all of 1A football), at home no less. and yet they get tons of computer love because a bunch of mediocre teams playing a bunch of other mediocre teams makes at least a couple of them look like they're decent. that bias in the human polls and the inherent flaw of the computers (who can't watch games, so can't tell that teams are mediocre) has pumped up the SEC (and USC, who is only 8 points better than baylor). the biggest problem with the SEC is that teams are unable to find the endzone. no, it isn't good defense. it's craptacular offense. it's not good football.

This is laughable so I won't even respond other than to say you just called Arkansas the best team in the SEC.

Personally, I'd say Florida is the best team in the SEC followed by UT then Arkansas/Auburn and LSU.

 

[Baked]

Cal Bears FTW!

 

[nitsuj3580]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

THANK YOU! Enough pissing and moaning about UWV not playing anyone when just about the entire team is returning from their Sugar Bowl dominance of Georgia. I know that was last year and this is now, but it was essentially a road game for them and they still whipped up on the SEC champion under one of the biggest spotlights for this team in decades, if that doesn't show you they can at least challenge most of these major conference teams then you're delusional or purposely ignorant.

I'm not gonna bellyache over Auburn being ahead of UWV right now, I think the rankings as a whole are pretty good and predict things will change with time. But if UWV beats Louisville and they still arn't at least #4 in the BCS then something is terribly wrong.

The final score was 38-35, hardly domination.

WVU was up 28-0 then had a bit of a let down. WVU's offense can play with anyone.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

THANK YOU! Enough pissing and moaning about UWV not playing anyone when just about the entire team is returning from their Sugar Bowl dominance of Georgia. I know that was last year and this is now, but it was essentially a road game for them and they still whipped up on the SEC champion under one of the biggest spotlights for this team in decades, if that doesn't show you they can at least challenge most of these major conference teams then you're delusional or purposely ignorant.

I'm not gonna bellyache over Auburn being ahead of UWV right now, I think the rankings as a whole are pretty good and predict things will change with time. But if UWV beats Louisville and they still arn't at least #4 in the BCS then something is terribly wrong.

The final score was 38-35, hardly domination.

Steve Slaton set the SUGAR BOWL RUSHING RECORD, which dates back to 1935. WVU was up 28-0 in the 1st Q, then got lazy (like they always do after huge leads). WVU let UGA back in the game, yeah, but if you saw the first half of the game it was nothing more than a route. Not to mention, this game was in the GEORGIA DOME which meant home field advantage for UGA (I was at the game, it was a sea of red).

They have virtually the same team this year, and to reiterate are the reigning SEC champions. They should be ranked ahead of USC because they have dominated their nonranked opponents by more.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

THANK YOU! Enough pissing and moaning about UWV not playing anyone when just about the entire team is returning from their Sugar Bowl dominance of Georgia. I know that was last year and this is now, but it was essentially a road game for them and they still whipped up on the SEC champion under one of the biggest spotlights for this team in decades, if that doesn't show you they can at least challenge most of these major conference teams then you're delusional or purposely ignorant.

I'm not gonna bellyache over Auburn being ahead of UWV right now, I think the rankings as a whole are pretty good and predict things will change with time. But if UWV beats Louisville and they still arn't at least #4 in the BCS then something is terribly wrong.

The final score was 38-35, hardly domination.

Steve Slaton set the SUGAR BOWL RUSHING RECORD, which dates back to 1935. WVU was up 28-0 in the 1st Q, then got lazy (like they always do after huge leads). WVU let UGA back in the game, yeah, but if you saw the first half of the game it was nothing more than a route. Not to mention, this game was in the GEORGIA DOME which meant home field advantage for UGA (I was at the game, it was a sea of red).

They have virtually the same team this year, and to reiterate are the reigning SEC champions. They should be ranked ahead of USC because they have dominated their nonranked opponents by more.

Oh get a grip...beating UGA doesn't make you SEC Champs. Personally, at this point I'm hoping WVU does make it to the championship game b/c then it's a virtual lock for Ohio State to win another Natl. Championship....which according to SP33Dy here, would make OSU the Big 10 Champs, Big East Champs and National Champs.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

THANK YOU! Enough pissing and moaning about UWV not playing anyone when just about the entire team is returning from their Sugar Bowl dominance of Georgia. I know that was last year and this is now, but it was essentially a road game for them and they still whipped up on the SEC champion under one of the biggest spotlights for this team in decades, if that doesn't show you they can at least challenge most of these major conference teams then you're delusional or purposely ignorant.

I'm not gonna bellyache over Auburn being ahead of UWV right now, I think the rankings as a whole are pretty good and predict things will change with time. But if UWV beats Louisville and they still arn't at least #4 in the BCS then something is terribly wrong.

The final score was 38-35, hardly domination.

Steve Slaton set the SUGAR BOWL RUSHING RECORD, which dates back to 1935. WVU was up 28-0 in the 1st Q, then got lazy (like they always do after huge leads). WVU let UGA back in the game, yeah, but if you saw the first half of the game it was nothing more than a route. Not to mention, this game was in the GEORGIA DOME which meant home field advantage for UGA (I was at the game, it was a sea of red).

They have virtually the same team this year, and to reiterate are the reigning SEC champions. They should be ranked ahead of USC because they have dominated their nonranked opponents by more.

but wv has only played unranked opponents,

they have beaten, marhsall, eastern washington, maryland, east carolina, mississipi state, and syracuse, hardly great wins.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
SEC is the most overrated conference in the history of sports. they have a bunch of teams that are inconsistent and horrendous on offense (auburn did not score an offensive touchdown). the best team in the league got blown out by USC. the defending champs (who are still ranked in some polls) almost lost to colorado (potentially the worst team in all of 1A football), at home no less. and yet they get tons of computer love because a bunch of mediocre teams playing a bunch of other mediocre teams makes at least a couple of them look like they're decent. that bias in the human polls and the inherent flaw of the computers (who can't watch games, so can't tell that teams are mediocre) has pumped up the SEC (and USC, who is only 8 points better than baylor). the biggest problem with the SEC is that teams are unable to find the endzone. no, it isn't good defense. it's craptacular offense. it's not good football.


and not including margin of victory is the dumbest thing ever. margin matters. yes, games can be closer than the score would indicate (auburn-florida, for example), but those games are not common.

Arkansas WILL be the 2008 National Champions. Remember you heard it here first.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: ElFenix
SEC is the most overrated conference in the history of sports. they have a bunch of teams that are inconsistent and horrendous on offense (auburn did not score an offensive touchdown). the best team in the league got blown out by USC. the defending champs (who are still ranked in some polls) almost lost to colorado (potentially the worst team in all of 1A football), at home no less. and yet they get tons of computer love because a bunch of mediocre teams playing a bunch of other mediocre teams makes at least a couple of them look like they're decent. that bias in the human polls and the inherent flaw of the computers (who can't watch games, so can't tell that teams are mediocre) has pumped up the SEC (and USC, who is only 8 points better than baylor). the biggest problem with the SEC is that teams are unable to find the endzone. no, it isn't good defense. it's craptacular offense. it's not good football.

This is laughable so I won't even respond other than to say you just called Arkansas the best team in the SEC.

and this is exactly why the computer polls are retarded. one of them has arkansas as the best team in the SEC (sagarin), another has them essentially even with florida (wolfe). massey has them in a very tight group with auburn and cal.