BBC: North Korea has canceled high level talks with South Korea

[jana519]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44133308

North Korea has cancelled Wednesday's high-level talks with South Korea because of anger over its joint military exercises with the US.

The North's official KCNA news agency said the exercises were a "provocation" and a rehearsal for an invasion

Looks like Kim got his legitimacy from Pompeo with his photo op, now that he feels he's on equal ground he will try to throw his weight around and push for more concessions. Was it ever a good idea to give the North Korean regime legitimacy in return for nothing but promises?

Reportedly Kim is threatening to pull out of the June summit with the US as well: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...atens-cancel-trump-kim-meet-article-1.3991398

 

[feralkid]

But Trump is still "dominating", right?

...Right?

He's not?

 

[Nashemon]

Who knew diplomacy could be so complicated?

 

[dainthomas]

Hopefully Dump's Nobel Peace Prize is in the mail.

 

[paperfist]

It was Obama's idea to talk with the bad guys

 

[Jhhnn]

It was Obama's idea to talk with the bad guys

Gawd. It was Trump who gave up US credibility when he renounced the Iran deal. Before that it was Bush who scuttled Clinton's deal w/ N Korea claiming that they admitted to having nukes at the time, a preposterous proposition. Even if they did they wouldn't have admitted it.

Now, of course, Iran is free to sell NK all the oil they care to purchase.

Meanwhile, Israel has been creating nukes for ~50 years.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Not a Kim fan but if someone is potentially offering a historical peace it's probably not a good idea to provoke with military exercises.

Just sayin'

 

[Young Grasshopper]

Not a Kim fan but if someone is potentially offering a historical peace it's probably not a good idea to provoke with military exercises.

Just sayin'

He’s not offering peace. This is nothing more than an attempt by Kim to make Trump look like the fool that he is on the world stage. He sees what’s a bafoon our president is and is taking advantage of it.

 

[feralkid]

Not a Kim fan but if someone is potentially offering a historical peace it's probably not a good idea to provoke with military exercises.

Just sayin'

Well, yeah...you are right and all, but we're talking Trump team diplomacy. Or the lack of it.

 

[Thebobo]

We winning yet

 

[jana519]

Not a Kim fan but if someone is potentially offering a historical peace it's probably not a good idea to provoke with military exercises.

Just sayin'

Maybe if there was a properly funded and staffed State Department, someone could have advised Trump on that... ooops.

 

[MrSquished]

Not a Kim fan but if someone is potentially offering a historical peace it's probably not a good idea to provoke with military exercises.

Just sayin'

I was thinking the same thing. In reality the Trump team just probably forgot, they were too busy celebrating the 500 million dollar investment by China in a Trump-heavy development.

 

[fskimospy]

I strongly suspect the talks will still happen. After all they are what the Kims have wanted for decades.

 

[sportage]

Are these two guys brothers? Maybe even twins? Or what?
Kim can't be trusted, he (or she, I can't be sure) lies, flip flops, says one thing then does another, AND....
so does Donald Trump the exact same thing.
So class, what lesson have we learned today?
That nutcases can't be trusted.
And, as I have always said when it comes to Trump, nothing is ever as it appears.
His base can be easily fooled, but can YOU?

Who do these guys think they are anyway, DirecTV?
Promising one thing, THEN, delivering something completely different.
And as with DirecTV, we're locked in that damn contract. Four years for Donald Trump.
And, always read the fine print. Early termination fees apply.

 

[hal2kilo]

We winning yet

I'm completely shocked.

 

[hal2kilo]

Maybe if there was a properly funded and staffed State Department, someone could have advised Trump on that... ooops.

Keep the Derp State out of this.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm seeing this story on MSM so I have to wonder what Lil' Kim's angle is on all of this or is someone else to blame?

 

[Jaskalas]

Was it ever a good idea to give the North Korean regime legitimacy in return for nothing but promises?

North Korea will have legitimacy IF they act in good faith and demonstrate their end of whatever deal there'll be. Otherwise, WTF do you think they've gained?

 

[jana519]

North Korea will have legitimacy IF they act in good faith and demonstrate their end of whatever deal there'll be. Otherwise, WTF do you think they've gained?

No, they gained legitimacy when Secretary of State Mike Pompeo flew to meet Kim Jong-Un in person for a photo op and announced a US-North Korea summit in June.

Now North Korea has leverage because they can pull out at any time and Trump will look like a diplomatic failure. To be fair, Trump did get 3 American prisoners released. I'm looking at this and thinking North Korea has lost nothing of value and has gained a lot of leverage going into any real talks.

 

[alien42]

Kim is playing trump like a bitch.

 

[FIVR]

LOL I told you guys there would be ZERO Trump Nobel prizes.



He did get those koreans back from best korea. That's definitely a win. Not prize-worthy tho.

 

[Bitek]

I strongly suspect the talks will still happen. After all they are what the Kims have wanted for decades.

IMO, they are testing Trump's desperation to make a deal.

Trump had gone all in on making this NK deal. Probably sees it as his reelection and legacy issue, which gives NK a lot of leverage.

Look how easily Trump folded on ZTE. Who actually trusts this guy to have the nation's best interest over his own.

 

[FIVR]

US military is never going to give up their huge, expensive, wasteful provocation exercises. They cost billions of dollars that otherwise would go to lame shit like schools and infrastructure. US military can never admit that it doesn't need every last dime in its enormous budget, so these exercises won't be cancelled.


I strongly suspect that Dump was stupid enough to offer Kim Jong Un to stop these exercises but he never checked his derp state generals to see if they would let him do that. So now, we have problems...

 

[Jhhnn]

Kim is playing trump like a bitch.

What else is there for Kim? Trump made it obvious that no deal with the US can be trusted. Trump's repudiation of the Iran deal tells them that.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

What else is there for Kim? Trump made it obvious that no deal with the US can be trusted. Trump's repudiation of the Iran deal tells them that.

Take a look at it from his perspective.

He's now confirmed as a valid world leader, in the sense that the POTUS has invited him to talks. In addition, he's talking with his immediate (and most threatening) neighbor. He now decides to end the talks based on their military posture, he is at this point holding the cards in the negotiations. He's backing off from talks because of the other guys' actions. He can now re-enter negotiations when he feels fit to do so, and he'll be in power at that point.

Ironically this kind of crap is probably in Trump's book, he probably should have read it.