Bayh-Richardson in 2008!!

Stunt

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All speculation, but here's my choice for President:


Evan Bayh
Birch Evans "Evan" Bayh III (born December 26, 1955) is an American politician who has served as a U.S. Senator from Indiana since 1999 and is a member of the Democratic Party.

He served two terms as the governor of Indiana, from 1989 to 1997. His administration was considered cautious but successful (even by Republicans in the state), creating a large state surplus and permitting him to cut taxes.

Bayh is also considered to be a possible 2008 Presidential nominee due to his appeal to "red state" voters and his perceived electability. In the 2004 election he received more votes in Indiana than President Bush, a feat unheard of by a democrat in a state as conservative as Indiana. Bayh's moderate appeal will be a driving force in his electability with many critics already claiming Hillary Clinton as too liberal and polarizing, a sure defeat for the 2008 general election. Many pundits and politcos see a very electable team in Evan Bayh and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. A Bayh-Richardson ticket would capitalize on the Midwest and Southwest, both essential for Democratic victory. Furthermore Richardson, a Hispanic, would help bring back the very strong Democratic support of the Latino population.

Bayh-Richardson 2008!! :D

As of March 31st of this year he had $7 million of available cash in his campaign fund. Hillary leads the pack with $8.7 million.
 

PatboyX

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its a fun name to say, ill give you that.
i still want my red dawn/moonbeam ticket.

 

zendari

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List of potential candidates:

Here are a few, though not all

Republican candidates:

Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of New York
Bill Frist, Senator from Tennessee
Jeb Bush, Governor of Florida
John McCain, Senator from Arizona
Dan Quayle, former Vice-President
Gary Bauer, conservative activist
Condoleeza Rice, National Security Advisor
Donald Trump, businessman
Tom Ridge, Secretary of Homeland Security and former Governor of Pennsylvania
George Allen, Senator from Virginia
Rick Santorum, Senator from Pennsylvania
Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts
George Pataki, Governor of New York
Democratic candidates

Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator from New York and former First Lady
Al Gore, former Vice-President
John Kerry, Senator from Massachusetts
John Edwards, Senator from North Carolina
Tom Daschle, Senator from South Dakota
Joseph Biden, Senator from Delaware
Bill Bradley, former Senator from New Jersey
Howard Dean, former Governor of Vermont
Richard Gephardt, Congressional Represenative from Missouri
Wesley Clark, former US Army General
Joseph Lieberman, Senator from Connecticut
Al Sharpton, liberal activist
Dennis Kucinich, Congressional Representative from Ohio
Barack Obama, Senator-elect from Illinois
Harold Ford, Jr, Congressional representative from Tennessee
Bob Graham, Senator from Florida
Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico and former US Ambassador to the United Nations
Evan Bayh, Senator from Indiana
Gary Hart, former Senator from Colorado
Mark Warner, Governor of Virginia
Rod Blagojevich, Governor of Illinois
Tom Vilsack, Governor of Iowa


My guess is Frist/Guliani.
 

Stunt

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Frist and Bayh look very similar...imagine if they ran together...:laugh:

I agree that Guliani and Arnold (i know he can't) would never get the nod...they are not conservative enough. If you can get a guy like Bush elected, why hold back...this is the sentiment Republicans will have imo.
 

nageov3t

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I think Frist shot himself in the foot with the Terry Shiavo thing. his 2008 chances aren't looking good.

Gulliani... meh. the Republicans would be increadibly stupid to elect him for VP. he's got a lot of baggage.
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
All speculation, but here's my choice for President:


Evan Bayh
Birch Evans "Evan" Bayh III (born December 26, 1955) is an American politician who has served as a U.S. Senator from Indiana since 1999 and is a member of the Democratic Party.

He served two terms as the governor of Indiana, from 1989 to 1997. His administration was considered cautious but successful (even by Republicans in the state), creating a large state surplus and permitting him to cut taxes.

Bayh is also considered to be a possible 2008 Presidential nominee due to his appeal to "red state" voters and his perceived electability. In the 2004 election he received more votes in Indiana than President Bush, a feat unheard of by a democrat in a state as conservative as Indiana. Bayh's moderate appeal will be a driving force in his electability with many critics already claiming Hillary Clinton as too liberal and polarizing, a sure defeat for the 2008 general election. Many pundits and politcos see a very electable team in Evan Bayh and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. A Bayh-Richardson ticket would capitalize on the Midwest and Southwest, both essential for Democratic victory. Furthermore Richardson, a Hispanic, would help bring back the very strong Democratic support of the Latino population.

Bayh-Richardson 2008!! :D

As of March 31st of this year he had $7 million of available cash in his campaign fund. Hillary leads the pack with $8.7 million.


Granted I don't know too much about Bayh and Richardson, but from what I've heard, that'd be a great ticket. A great ticket for Americans that is.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I think Frist shot himself in the foot with the Terry Shiavo thing. his 2008 chances aren't looking good.

Gulliani... meh. the Republicans would be increadibly stupid to elect him for VP. he's got a lot of baggage.

I don't think so. It's only 2005, people will forget/not care so much in Nov. 2008. I don't see anyone else really competing in the primaries, especially some of the moderates.

As for Guliani, you don't think Hillary comes with baggage?

McCain might be a decent guy, but he is too old.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: loki8481
I think Frist shot himself in the foot with the Terry Shiavo thing. his 2008 chances aren't looking good.

Gulliani... meh. the Republicans would be increadibly stupid to elect him for VP. he's got a lot of baggage.

I don't think so. It's only 2005, people will forget/not care so much in Nov. 2008. I don't see anyone else really competing in the primaries, especially some of the moderates.

As for Guliani, you don't think Hillary comes with baggage?

McCain might be a decent guy, but he is too old.

I think that Guliani probably has a lot more skeletons in his closet than Hillary.

I mean, look at just how much was dug up about Bernard Kerik, Rudy's friend, in just a few weeks after Bush nominated him.

you can't be mayor of NYC without getting your hands dirty, and that's not even touching on the affair, which itself is sure to turn people against him.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: loki8481
I think Frist shot himself in the foot with the Terry Shiavo thing. his 2008 chances aren't looking good.

Gulliani... meh. the Republicans would be increadibly stupid to elect him for VP. he's got a lot of baggage.

I don't think so. It's only 2005, people will forget/not care so much in Nov. 2008. I don't see anyone else really competing in the primaries, especially some of the moderates.

As for Guliani, you don't think Hillary comes with baggage?

McCain might be a decent guy, but he is too old.
You think Guliani's baggage from ~2000 will be gone? Hillary's baggage will last, garanteed...and that's from 1992 and later.

Those things live with you for life. Look at Kerry and Vietnam.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: PatboyX
its a fun name to say, ill give you that.
i still want my red dawn/moonbeam ticket.
;):thumbsup:
Moonbeam as President and me as his interpretor? I guess I would have to brush up on my Whacko;)
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I'd like to see a Clark/Feingold ticket. Two tell it like it is kinda guys. :thumbsup:
"Feingold was the only senator to vote against the USA PATRIOT Act"
:thumbsup:
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: PatboyX
its a fun name to say, ill give you that.
i still want my red dawn/moonbeam ticket.
;):thumbsup:
Moonbeam as President and me as his interpretor? I guess I would have to brush up on my Whacko;)
sortof what I had in mind :)

When you guys would have to deliver a clear message to the public you would make a speech, if you had to be unclear or have to answer some very hard questions then Moonbeam would be perfect :D

 

Spamela

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: PatboyX
its a fun name to say, ill give you that.
i still want my red dawn/moonbeam ticket.
;):thumbsup:
Moonbeam as President and me as his interpretor? I guess I would have to brush up on my Whacko;)


i picture Moonbeam more as the nation's "Divine Oracle."
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Frist and Bayh look very similar...imagine if they ran together...:laugh:

I agree that Guliani and Arnold (i know he can't) would never get the nod...they are not conservative enough. If you can get a guy like Bush elected, why hold back...this is the sentiment Republicans will have imo.
pfft! Bush is about as conservative as Hillary is liberal. - That's a great example of how skewed the perceptions of the philosophies of liberalism and conservatism have become. -

I'll be voting 3rd party.. again! -- yea, I know the 3rd party has a little less than a snowball's chance in hell of winning but if more and more people begin to vote 3rd party then maybe, just maybe my kids may have more choices than "evil" and "the lesser-of".

/disgusted w/ the current state of affairs

 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: loki8481
I think Frist shot himself in the foot with the Terry Shiavo thing. his 2008 chances aren't looking good.

Gulliani... meh. the Republicans would be increadibly stupid to elect him for VP. he's got a lot of baggage.

I don't think so. It's only 2005, people will forget/not care so much in Nov. 2008. I don't see anyone else really competing in the primaries, especially some of the moderates.

As for Guliani, you don't think Hillary comes with baggage?

McCain might be a decent guy, but he is too old.
You think Guliani's baggage from ~2000 will be gone? Hillary's baggage will last, garanteed...and that's from 1992 and later.

Those things live with you for life. Look at Kerry and Vietnam.

The VP is also under less attack than the Pres.

If its not Guliani, it'll be Romney; or someone else from the North East.

I very much hope that Jeb doesn't win the nomination, we need new people in the White House.

 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: zendari
I very much hope that Jeb doesn't win the nomination, we need new people in the White House.

I think everyone can agree with this :D
 

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Obama has the charisma, but I fear there would be a backlash by those not mature enough for a black president. I only play the race card because it would be a factor in the way many voted. The same with Hillary. I'd vote for either of them.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Obama has the charisma, but I fear there would be a backlash by those not mature enough for a black president. I only play the race card because it would be a factor in the way many voted. The same with Hillary. I'd vote for either of them.

the fact that Obama doesn't have a chance has nothing to do with his race and everything to do with the fact that he's left-wing and has little-to-no experience.

Hillary has only been in the senate for 1 term, but she's already ran the White House for 8 years :p
 

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So loki you think this country is ready for a female or black president? What experience did George Bush have other than being a 2 term Gov. of Texas? Just looking at what the people in this country voted for twice in a row will leave you thinking its a possibility but I say not in a snowballs chance in hell in my lifetime will that happen. I would vote for both of them if your wondering.
 

Stunt

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2 term Gov. of Texas is way more professional experience than Obama and Hillary...
Hillary has been around due to Bill.