Battlefield 4 Graphics - PS4 n XBOX1

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purbeast0

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720p looks great on a 120" screen, that is what i've been gaming on for over 1/2 a year with ps3 and 360.

but cry moar if you want, that is what this thread seems to be about anyways.
 

UaVaj

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no need to get all worked up.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

ugly chicks needs love too. :biggrin:
 

Durvelle27

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720p looks great on a 120" screen, that is what i've been gaming on for over 1/2 a year with ps3 and 360.

but cry moar if you want, that is what this thread seems to be about anyways.

I can agree here. 720p looks great on my 115". Mostly play my PS3 on it.
 
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tential

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720p looks great on a 120" screen, that is what i've been gaming on for over 1/2 a year with ps3 and 360.

but cry moar if you want, that is what this thread seems to be about anyways.

I feel it looks terrible on my 70 inch sharp, but I have heard that projectors are better with scaling resolution. You are supposed to use native resolution on an LED, but Projector is supposed to do better with non native resolution right? Maybe it will look better if I switch to a projector.

It's still COMPLETELY disappointing to purchase a new 400-500 dollar console to play at 720p.
 

Durvelle27

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I feel it looks terrible on my 70 inch sharp, but I have heard that projectors are better with scaling resolution. You are supposed to use native resolution on an LED, but Projector is supposed to do better with non native resolution right? Maybe it will look better if I switch to a projector.

It's still COMPLETELY disappointing to purchase a new 400-500 dollar console to play at 720p.

720p looks a lot better than 720p on my 51" phillips HDTV. I cant say it does better at non native resolutions as i have never tried before. I've only used 720p & 1080p. Yes it will. In my opion projectors look alot better than HDTVs if setup properly.


Well i rather have 720p@60 than 1080@30 and at 5' or more you won't notice the difference between 720p & 1080p
 

HeXen

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And a Ford Focus Titanium is superior to an SE, yet they both get you down the road and neither will buy you a bag of chips.

Nothing here has ever changed in gaming history. Amiga was epic compared to NES but loading floppies was really a drag and like today's PC's, it may not always play like it should. The Neo Geo was more powerful than SNES too and there was a point where you could get Samurai Showdown among others on either system and just like PC's vs Consoles it's really a matter of who is willing to pay the price difference for some potential superiority that many obviously just don't really care about enough to bother and "bother' is definitely what PC gaming is, from keeping up on individual updates, the OS, a less consistent experience and more bugs. To some that bother is not part of what they are looking for and the rest of us are just used to it and knowledgeable of dealing with it.
The only thing that really is superior is whatever your personal preference is.
 
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ImpulsE69

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I do not buy that 720p looks amazing on a 110" screen considering I can definitely tell the difference on a 70" screen between 720 and 1080 and while sure it looks better than 480, it's not great when you get to bigger screens. It also makes me wonder if you've ever actually gamed at true 1080p 60fps. I think you've made yourself believe that it's amazing. While sure, it may not matter in the overall scope, trying to say it's awesome is a bit of an overstatement.

What you will find I think is similar to what Nintendo said with the Wii. It's cheaper and easier to make worlds at lower resolutions. Many devs are going to continue to do this. It's probably not an issue, but please don't tell me your consoles are amazing and better than top end PC's when they obviously are not. Also, I don't care what anyone says, 30fps is horrible and should (at this point in time) NEVER be used again.
 
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zerocool84

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I think those playing in a dedicated theater room might have a little more of a blast than others.

I remember when I first put BF3 in on my HT setup with the WarSounds soundtrack on. I had trauma afterwards...

I'll probably build another sub or two for this game if I can afford it.

Edit: Can someone confirm where they say BF4 will be 720p@60fps?
That's utterly ridiculous, this is 2013 and it's been 8 years and we're still stuck at 720p? I'm not buying this game for console if so. I really wanted it on Xbox One/PS4 to play with friends and not have to deal with getting wrecked by the PC crowd ('m using a controller), but I'm not going back to 720p ever again lol. I'm looking to upgrade to a 120 inch screen, not doing 720p on it.
I looked forward to XboxOne/PS4 for over a year JUST for 1080p. Man this sucks.

You do realize that even higher end PC's have trouble running many games @ 1080p max graphics with steady 60fps?
 

Durvelle27

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I do not buy that 720p looks amazing on a 110" screen considering I can definitely tell the difference on a 70" screen between 720 and 1080 and while sure it looks better than 480, it's not great when you get to bigger screens. It also makes me wonder if you've ever actually gamed at true 1080p 60fps. I think you've made yourself believe that it's amazing. While sure, it may not matter in the overall scope, trying to say it's awesome is a bit of an overstatement.

What you will find I think is similar to what Nintendo said with the Wii. It's cheaper and easier to make worlds at lower resolutions. Many devs are going to continue to do this. It's probably not an issue, but please don't tell me your consoles are amazing and better than top end PC's when they obviously are not. Also, I don't care what anyone says, 30fps is horrible and should (at this point in time) NEVER be used again.

Yes I have gamed at 1080@60 as I do have a gaming PC also. I sit 14' from my 110" and can't tell the difference between 720 & 1080 but on my 32" which I sit 1' from I can notice the difference
 

purbeast0

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I do not buy that 720p looks amazing on a 110" screen considering I can definitely tell the difference on a 70" screen between 720 and 1080 and while sure it looks better than 480, it's not great when you get to bigger screens. It also makes me wonder if you've ever actually gamed at true 1080p 60fps. I think you've made yourself believe that it's amazing. While sure, it may not matter in the overall scope, trying to say it's awesome is a bit of an overstatement.

What you will find I think is similar to what Nintendo said with the Wii. It's cheaper and easier to make worlds at lower resolutions. Many devs are going to continue to do this. It's probably not an issue, but please don't tell me your consoles are amazing and better than top end PC's when they obviously are not. Also, I don't care what anyone says, 30fps is horrible and should (at this point in time) NEVER be used again.

i never said you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 720p, i said 720p looks great @ 120". whether i've played a game at 1080p @ 60fps is irrelevant, but i have. my pc handles that just fine and it looks great on my 23" monitor.

they can both look great you know, it doesn't have to be one or the other. i guarantee that if anyone on this forum came and played the last of us, tomb raider, or super street fighter 4, the last thing that would be on their mind is "this is crap".

that is the problem with 99% of the people on the internet (this forum included). they always have to choose a side.
 

cmdrdredd

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Cause when playing the game I totally say "hey bro...this game is at 720p OMGWTF" while I get blown up because I was counting pixels. A game at 720p can look fine, and this is coming from someone running 2560x1440 on a PC for games.
 

tential

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You do realize that even higher end PC's have trouble running many games @ 1080p max graphics with steady 60fps?

This is a joke right? Most games run at 1080p 60 FPS pretty easily...

And the console version never used max graphics so I dunno why we're talking about htat.
 

Topweasel

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Already done. Without any special effort I put together a complete pc with a 7850 2g, 8gb ram, fx-4130, and 3 free games on newegg. Under $400.

Hell I was only saying that because these systems are very very close to real PC counterparts and Kaveri will be as fast on the GPU, much faster on the CPU, and slower with no ecache or GDDR5 in memory. Once those hit you could easily build a matx or ITX system for $400 that would be competitive with the consoles.

That said I don't fully understand why it's such a big deal. I guess for me it's never been an issue. I play games that play better or are only available on the console, on whatever console it plays best on (X360 controller being my preferred), if it looks, plays and is overall a better experience to play on the PC, then play it there. Why consoles have to play the competitive graphics game on tech forums I don't understand.
 

purbeast0

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Hell I was only saying that because these systems are very very close to real PC counterparts and Kaveri will be as fast on the GPU, much faster on the CPU, and slower with no ecache or GDDR5 in memory. Once those hit you could easily build a matx or ITX system for $400 that would be competitive with the consoles.

That said I don't fully understand why it's such a big deal. I guess for me it's never been an issue. I play games that play better or are only available on the console, on whatever console it plays best on (X360 controller being my preferred), if it looks, plays and is overall a better experience to play on the PC, then play it there. Why consoles have to play the competitive graphics game on tech forums I don't understand.

it's only a big deal to gamers who are primarily pc gamers because they are butthurt that pc gaming is not nearly as diverse as console gaming, and that the consoles are the #1 focus for game development for multiplatform games, so they come here to try and hurt console gamer feelings to make them feel better about having a fraction of a gaming library on the pc.

what most of them don't get is that 99% of people on this forum KNOW that PC games look much much better, but don't give a crap and enjoy them anyways, because they look more than good enough. pc games have looked better than console games for the past 20+ years or so, it's nothing new.

then you have the guys (which is a lot of people on this board too) who can enjoy games and don't care what platform they are on, and enjoy them to enjoy them. but it's no surprise that this thread is full of a lot of "non-regular" console gaming forum visitors.
 

sze5003

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It is obvious pc graphics are better. If you play any type of game you should know this. Also, it should not matter. The console crowd for bf4 is different than the pc crowd. I got it for ps4 because most of my friends will have a ps4 too and while I have bf3 on pc, I rarely played it because I didn't have a good group to enjoy it.

Same goes for cod, I'll always get it for console because of the crowd I play with. When the game is cheaper I'll get it for pc just to play the single player again and see the difference.
 

XiandreX

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They did say it was running at 60FPS for the first time on consoles. I will take 720p@60FPS over 1080p@30FPS any day. Really though, I am already buying this on PC, so I don't care about the console version.

I am one of the few people, it seems, that can enjoy console and PC gaming. I recognized the strengths of each and 'exploit' them.

I am with you on this one. I enjoy both PC and Consoles equally. Each has their place. Ideally I would have all 3, PC, XB1 and PS4 but financially it won't happen.
My brother will be buying a PS4, trying to convince a friend to get XB1. That way we are covered. I will however get myself an XB1 eventually.
 

ImpulsE69

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it's only a big deal to gamers who are primarily pc gamers because they are butthurt that pc gaming is not nearly as diverse as console gaming, and that the consoles are the #1 focus for game development for multiplatform games, so they come here to try and hurt console gamer feelings to make them feel better about having a fraction of a gaming library on the pc.

what most of them don't get is that 99% of people on this forum KNOW that PC games look much much better, but don't give a crap and enjoy them anyways, because they look more than good enough. pc games have looked better than console games for the past 20+ years or so, it's nothing new.

then you have the guys (which is a lot of people on this board too) who can enjoy games and don't care what platform they are on, and enjoy them to enjoy them. but it's no surprise that this thread is full of a lot of "non-regular" console gaming forum visitors.

You know, you constantly talk like you are some open minded worldly gamer, but, that is not how you come off at all. You come off as a jaded butthurt console gamer. PC games are more diverse than console games. There is no argument there. There are a few genres that obviously play better on console, and vice versa, but overall, the "range" of consoles games is very minimal.

THE reason there is contention (and many times misguided hatred) over console games is not because of some PC fanboy illusion. It stems from the 360/PS3 generation that saw a major shift in the way games were developed primarily for console, and practically ignored on the PC front. This in turn led many gamers to believe they are holding back gaming advancement on many fronts. Really only within the last couple years has that begun to turn some.

Now seeing the new consoles coming out STILL trailing in technology only strengthens that view. Before you go all "omg PC l33tist" realize I still play a wide variety of systems. It's not about the graphics as much as how 1080p has been standard for years. This should have been THE defacto minimum with the new gen. More than likely what this means is yet MORE shoddy ports for however many years these systems exist. Since the goal of console producers has become basically to be a controlled PC with a locked down infrastructure, that doesn't make for a very bright future. Does this mean I won't play games on consoles? No. It does however tell me that yet again technology advances in gaming is going to be slow once again due to consoles driving the market currently (and for the last 7 years).

Now, please get over yourself and try to understand where OTHER people's concerns are coming from instead of continually dismissing them as "fanboy", if you were actually THAT open minded, you wouldn't keep saying the same rhetoric over and over and whats with the "strangers coming into the console forumz omg". FFS. If people didn't care you'd be in here by yourself.
 
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purbeast0

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You know, you constantly talk like you are some open minded worldly gamer, but, that is not how you come off at all. You come off as a jaded butthurt console gamer. PC games are more diverse than console games. There is no argument there. There are a few genres that obviously play better on console, and vice versa, but overall, the "range" of consoles games is very minimal.

THE reason there is contention (and many times misguided hatred) over console games is not because of some PC fanboy illusion. It stems from the 360/PS3 generation that saw a major shift in the way games were developed primarily for console, and practically ignored on the PC front. This in turn led many gamers to believe they are holding back gaming advancement on many fronts. Really only within the last couple years has that begun to turn some.

Now seeing the new consoles coming out STILL trailing in technology only strengthens that view. Before you go all "omg PC l33tist" realize I still play a wide variety of systems. It's not about the graphics as much as how 1080p has been standard for years. This should have been THE defacto minimum with the new gen. More than likely what this means is yet MORE shoddy ports for however many years these systems exist.

Now, please get over yourself and try to understand where OTHER people's concerns are coming from instead of continually dismissing them as "fanboy", if you were actually THAT open minded, you wouldn't keep saying the same rhetoric over and over and whats with the "strangers coming into the console forumz omg". FFS. If people didn't care you'd be in here by yourself.

did you read the OP? the whole point of the OP is to basically say "LOL PC version of BF4 is much better than PS4/XBOX1 graphically LOLOL!!!"

and yeah, again, no shit. everyone knows this. not even sure wtf "concern" you are talking about. also not sure why you even bring up "fanboy" in your post as if i said anything about calling someone a fanboy, but i do know you love to throw that word around.
 

ImpulsE69

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did you read the OP? the whole point of the OP is to basically say "LOL PC version of BF4 is much better than PS4/XBOX1 graphically LOLOL!!!"

and yeah, again, no shit. everyone knows this. not even sure wtf "concern" you are talking about. also not sure why you even bring up "fanboy" in your post as if i said anything about calling someone a fanboy, but i do know you love to throw that word around.

Yes I did, and YOU took it how you wanted to take it. I didn't read it like that at all. Secondly, just because you don't actually use the word doesn't mean you aren't saying it. Practically every post you make pretty much says it.

What concerns? You obviously still don't get it, but then, pretty much this has been the problem all along.

EDIT: Holy typos...
 
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tential

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It is obvious pc graphics are better. If you play any type of game you should know this. Also, it should not matter. The console crowd for bf4 is different than the pc crowd. I got it for ps4 because most of my friends will have a ps4 too and while I have bf3 on pc, I rarely played it because I didn't have a good group to enjoy it.

Same goes for cod, I'll always get it for console because of the crowd I play with. When the game is cheaper I'll get it for pc just to play the single player again and see the difference.

Well that's why it matters to me. I really wanted 1080p, but no, they won't give it to me. So I have to sacrifice resolution, to play the console crowd people because there is no way I can compete with a controller against the PC crowd.
 

sze5003

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It's just who you enjoy playing such games with. On console , I have my real friends that can get together and we will play like that all the time. On bf3 I barely know anyone who has a pc like I do out of all my friends that game.

Graphics to me don't matter that much because I enjoy both spectrums.
 

HeXen

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It's just who you enjoy playing such games with. On console , I have my real friends that can get together and we will play like that all the time. On bf3 I barely know anyone who has a pc like I do out of all my friends that game.

Graphics to me don't matter that much because I enjoy both spectrums.

I don't know anyone on any game for PC. My friends are always trying to get me to buy some PS3 version so I can play with them.
Plus on PC, no one uses VOIP and few even type for obvious reasons. At least people freaking communicate on consoles even if sometimes it's full of annoyer's. But being able to talk to your friends is so far more engaging and enhancing all on it's own to the experience that it makes 1080p and 60fps that the PC fanbois overhype all the time to be meaningless.
 
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