Battlefield 4 Graphics - PS4 n XBOX1

UaVaj

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Developers are dancing around answering the graphic IQ question. :biggrin:



In comparison to PC. PS4 and XBOX is nothing more than a HTPC on a little steroids.

"Good" settings is the current norm. Reality is majority of gamers is hard press to tell the difference beyond "Good" settings. PS4/XBOX1 will make "High" settings the new norm. As for when consoles will ever reach "Ultra" settings. Give it a few year or until the next console make over. As for when console will ever reach "Ultra + AA" settings. Gonna be a long long while.
 

ImpulsE69

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But the difference between PC and next-gen versions "won't be night and day", developer assures.


Well of course not since they'll be developed on consoles and most are too lazy to do (m)any improvements on PC.
 
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Consoles are not PCs, everybody knows this, it's not a secret. Don't know why we have to keep playing the "PC graphics are better than console graphics" game, it's obvious that most people don't care judging by sales numbers.
 

PricklyPete

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Consoles are not PCs, everybody knows this, it's not a secret. Don't know why we have to keep playing the "PC graphics are better than console graphics" game, it's obvious that most people don't care judging by sales numbers.

Exactly my thought. My priorities don't give me enough time to fiddle with a PC to play once a week with my friends who have even less interest in fiddling with a PC. I'll be perfectly happy with whatever they are able to do on a console as I am currently used to the current gen consoles and the new hardware will seem impressive by my standards.
 

mmntech

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Consoles are not PCs, everybody knows this, it's not a secret. Don't know why we have to keep playing the "PC graphics are better than console graphics" game, it's obvious that most people don't care judging by sales numbers.

Consoles are for people who just want to strap themselves into the driver's seat and go. PC is for the gearheads of the gamer world.
 

purbeast0

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so the PC version will look better than the console version?

as has been the case for the past decade?

HOLY SHIT I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED!!!

op's clearly trying to troll the console forum.

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look at all of his posts.

http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=1518614

all of them are in forums basically dealing with PC hardware and graphics cards. guess he just got bored there and wanted to try and troll the console forum.
 

futurefields

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All the people crying about OP is a troll need to give it a rest. It makes YOU look like troll. Just respond with your opine on the article or go away?

Yes XBone is underpowered to deliver next gen gaming at 1080p.
 

Wingznut

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Find a (complete) $400 PC that has better graphics than a PS4, and then you'll have some news. ;)
 

Arkaign

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lol.

Obvious reality is reality. However, this title will look fantastic on the Xbox One. This title will look fantastic on the PS4, and yes, this title will look even MOAR fantastic on a (well specced) PC.

Who cares? People are going to have a blast regardless of where they play this.
 

BrightCandle

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One worrying comment in that article is that its blurry. I hope by that they mean the textures are low resolution rather than the game isn't running native 1080p. If they going to run sub 720p again with post processed Antialiasing techniques to begin with that will be really disappointing in graphics fidelity for the next gen consoles. I am really hoping that they can hit 1080p 60hz so the games are nice and sharp and smooth.
 

smackababy

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They did say it was running at 60FPS for the first time on consoles. I will take 720p@60FPS over 1080p@30FPS any day. Really though, I am already buying this on PC, so I don't care about the console version.

I am one of the few people, it seems, that can enjoy console and PC gaming. I recognized the strengths of each and 'exploit' them.
 

Rakehellion

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Developers are dancing around answering the graphic IQ question. :biggrin:



In comparison to PC. PS4 and XBOX is nothing more than a HTPC on a little steroids.

"Good" settings is the current norm. Reality is majority of gamers is hard press to tell the difference beyond "Good" settings. PS4/XBOX1 will make "High" settings the new norm. As for when consoles will ever reach "Ultra" settings. Give it a few year or until the next console make over. As for when console will ever reach "Ultra + AA" settings. Gonna be a long long while.

The PS4 will have better graphics than any $400 computer.
 

blackened23

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All the people crying about OP is a troll need to give it a rest. It makes YOU look like troll. Just respond with your opine on the article or go away?

Yes XBone is underpowered to deliver next gen gaming at 1080p.

It is a troll. You're visiting a console forum to spout about your PC superiority complex, when in all actuality nobody cares - PC games and console games all offer good gaming experiences, believe it or not.

The only difference here is that some come here just to post nonsense about how consoles "Suck", it really is no different than some Windows guy trolling an Apple forum. Why are you here? This forum is for console users to share experiences and discuss console related issues. The fact of the matter is that you're just here to troll and spout nonsense about how consoles are "inferior" in your mind.

IMO, PCs are inferior to multiplayer experiences with fighting games, sports games, and various other genres. There are 400k players during peak times for SF4AE on XBLG. Meanwhile, there is NOBODY online to play SF4AE on the PC via steamworks. This also applies to Blops 2 where 2000 are usually online via steamworks, while 500k+ are on XBLG. The competition is far better, and graphics are a non issue to me if the gameplay is good.

Conversely, the PC has awesome experiences as well. MOBAs, strategy games, MMOs, and single player games - the PC is my go to here. If i'm doing a single player game and the PC version is good, I always play the PC version. The GTX 780 will do it a lot of justice and look overall better.

My point being here is that both PC and console have great gameplay experiences, so there is no need for you to come here and troll about how great your PC is. A 1000$ GPU alone is better than a 300-400$ console really? Color me surprised. :rolleyes: If you want to discuss your PC gaming issues, do it in the PC gaming forum. Or expand your mindset a bit and realize that all systems, console and PC, offer viable gameplay experiences.
 

ImpulsE69

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I agree much of this, except the outdated notion that you have to "fiddle" with games on PC these days. I haven't had to fiddle in years. Once in a blue moon a game is buggy, but that's due to developer laziness usually (and as we've seen the more like PC's consoles get, the more bugs they have with the I'll fix it later attitude). The up side is on a PC you can actually do something about it. Not so on consoles (unless modded)

I have noticed this sentiment repeatedly and it is false, or...you just don't know anything about PC's...I'm guessing it's the latter.
 
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smackababy

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I agree much of this, except the outdated notion that you have to "fiddle" with games on PC these days. I haven't had to fiddle in years. Once in a blue moon a game is buggy, but that's due to developer laziness usually (and as we've seen the more like PC's consoles get, the more bugs they have). The up side is on a PC you can actually do something about it. Not so on consoles (unless modded)

I have noticed this sentiment repeatedly and it is false, or...you just don't know anything about PC's...I'm guessing it's the latter.

There aren't too many PC games that come out that don't require you to 'fiddle' with the graphic settings to get smooth gameplay unless you have a monster system. Most games default the some horrid resolution and then I have to change the graphics settings to achieve the optimal image quality at an acceptable framerate. That is not required at all on console. You put the disc in, you play. You don't have to worry about drivers either. Everything will just work.

I am not saying it is hard to do that, but a lot of people would rather not. There can be a lot of hurdles to jump through just to play a PC game.
 

ImpulsE69

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1 or 2 seconds to change with graphics settings is giving you "options" that is not fiddling. You fiddle when you set the computer up, not the game. If changing the graphics settings is hard work, I feel sorry for this lazy self absorbed world.
 

Aikouka

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There aren't too many PC games that come out that don't require you to 'fiddle' with the graphic settings to get smooth gameplay unless you have a monster system. Most games default the some horrid resolution and then I have to change the graphics settings to achieve the optimal image quality at an acceptable framerate. That is not required at all on console. You put the disc in, you play. You don't have to worry about drivers either. Everything will just work.

I am not saying it is hard to do that, but a lot of people would rather not. There can be a lot of hurdles to jump through just to play a PC game.

That's why NVIDIA created the GeForce Experience program. Jensen said he gave his son a high-end card and watched as he couldn't be bothered to mess with the settings. The idea of GE is that it's supposed to do all that for you based on your hardware.
 

purbeast0

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I agree much of this, except the outdated notion that you have to "fiddle" with games on PC these days. I haven't had to fiddle in years. Once in a blue moon a game is buggy, but that's due to developer laziness usually (and as we've seen the more like PC's consoles get, the more bugs they have with the I'll fix it later attitude). The up side is on a PC you can actually do something about it. Not so on consoles (unless modded)

I have noticed this sentiment repeatedly and it is false, or...you just don't know anything about PC's...I'm guessing it's the latter.

i went to install SSF4:AE on my pc this past weekend because my buddy wanted to play it with me.

i dl'ed it from my GFWL account and installed it. when i went to play it, it wasn't recognizing any keyboard inputs. i thought that was odd. kept pressing all buttons to try and get it to recognize something, and nope, it wouldn't. i couldn't go change configs or get into any menus or anything.

after some google searching i found that it only recognizes xbox360 controllers by default. i mean i was going to play with my xbox360 joystick anyways, but wtf, why would they do that?

after i realized that and got it setup, i couldn't get the game to run in full screen mode. it would only run in windowed mode. i looked through all the settings and couldn't find anything.

since i didn't feel like 'fiddling' around anymore and just wanted to play, i just ended up playing in windowed mode.

yeah, i'll stick to consoles. :p

/anecdote
 

blackened23

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That's why NVIDIA created the GeForce Experience program. Jensen said he gave his son a high-end card and watched as he couldn't be bothered to mess with the settings. The idea of GE is that it's supposed to do all that for you based on your hardware.

I agree with the overall sentiment that it isn't that hard these days, but how many games were released which had broken performance until a performance driver is released? How many games have GFWL which are a downright PITA to get working? And how many GFWL games will be NON FUNCTIONAL later this year? Non working SLI at release? Etc. This is aside from the fact that many multiplayer games (Fighting games in particular) are a joke on the PC. Nobody plays. Whereas you can find tons and tons of competition among players online via XBLG.

Anyway, PC gaming and console gaming are both good. That said, take all of this nonsense to the PC gaming forum. None of this, nothing in this thread belongs in the console gaming forum. Yell at the top of your lungs about the PC "master race" :rolleyes: there, not here.

I love the PC - the PC offers great gaming experiences in different ways. Yet i'm extremely annoyed at seeing this garbage and PC trolls in the console forum. Take this crap to the PC gaming forum and talk about it there.
 
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smackababy

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That's why NVIDIA created the GeForce Experience program. Jensen said he gave his son a high-end card and watched as he couldn't be bothered to mess with the settings. The idea of GE is that it's supposed to do all that for you based on your hardware.

True, but the point is, you need another program to streamline your experience to even be close to console's ease of use. People don't buy Apple computers because they like being able to upgrade parts and do all kinds of UI tweaks, they buy them because they are easy to use and 'just work'. Consoles are the same in a lot of aspects.
 

Midwayman

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Not for very long. I suspect I can build a PC in march with better graphics for 400.

Already done. Without any special effort I put together a complete pc with a 7850 2g, 8gb ram, fx-4130, and 3 free games on newegg. Under $400.
 

smackababy

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Already done. Without any special effort I put together a complete pc with a 7850 2g, 8gb ram, fx-4130, and 3 free games on newegg. Under $400.

a 7850 is almost $200 and a fx-4130 is another $100. That is most of your budget and you're missing case, MB, ram, PSU, keyboard, mouse, and OS.
 

Arkaign

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Not to nitpick, but 7850s can frequently be had by trolling techbargains.com for $89-$109 range. 1GB model of course (fine for 1080p).

$400 is still pushing it though.

Micro Center 4130 $99
Micro Center AM3+ mATX mobo (after $40 off combo savings) $15
Techbargains 7850 $99 (price match w/newegg coupon at MC sales counter).
500GB SATA $39
DVDRW $16
KB/Mouse set $10
Case w/400W PSU $29

$307. I guess one could look for a student discount on an OS, because win7 and win8 home premium are $95.99 at MC. After tax, the budget would be closer to $430-$440ish.

Getting all that at newegg with shipping would be closer to $500 without the discounted board and lack of shipping costs.