Battlefield 4 Beta

Lil Frier

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So, who else is trying this out? I've never played any of the games in the franchise (I hate EA, won't be buying this game, but it's a free and open beta). I got it installed after I finished playing Forza for the night, and decided to give it a bit of a whirl.

My initial reaction is that I don't get the big deal with the game. People want to say it's SO much better than Call of Duty for whichever reasons, but I'm just not seeing it (again, only 2 matches, so opinion could change with extended play). For starters, the landscape just looks off. It's extremely bright and looks badly washed-out. Visuals aren't something I typically care about, nor do I here, but it's just something I thought about because of how people mention the aesthetics of Battlefield.

I really can't say I got much of a handle on the weapons, so not a strong opinion of them. I just used the standard AK-12 class, or whatever it was. The guns seem less accurate, though not in a way that makes this game better or worse than the competition. Yes, it's harder to hit shots, but you die more quickly, and the health either regenerates much more slowly or not at all (not 100%). Overall, gunfights and general lives don't seem to last any longer or shorter than in Call of Duty.

Something I'm not a big fan of is that you get 3 weapons. In addition to the primary and the pistol, you get a launcher. That just seems like a bit of overkill, though I guess it's fairly in-line with CoD's willingness to give you a pair of guns and a grenade launcher attachment. The lack of Perks is a plus, because they never felt balanced in any CoD installment I played.

The game types are weak, though I again understand it's a beta. However, you're essentially getting the same flavor of one game, CoD's Domination. Halo's King of the Hill. I'm not sure how this "ticket" system works exactly, but I can't expect to figure everything out immediately eh? The matches seemed to be paced about the same as CoD, with both clocking in around 10 minutes, I think.

As for how I did, I went 6-5 in the first match (joined mid-game and our team was getting destroyed), then followed by going 15-6 (team won by a sizable margin). All of that said (and hastily judged, given the lack of time spent playing), I'll definitely keep trying it. However, the initial excitement died out really quickly. I was hoping to meet a new style of play and be challenged, but I honestly think that playing Black Ops II with the Target Assist off might be harder than Battlefield 4. Of course, that might be because in CoD, no one else really turns the Target Assist off, so I play at a distinct disadvantage, while the Battlefield aiming system is more fair and balanced.

Regardless, I'm going to finish by saying good job, EA, for offering the free and open beta to people. It gives those of us who are leery about throwing $60+ into a franchise we don't trust a chance to build some trust and get a feel for what might be a superior product than what's out there now.
 

purbeast0

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if you are a cod fan, and have never played a bf game, chances are you are expecting it to be like cod and it's not. it's a totally different style of game. im personally not a fan of bf games myself just because i don't like large maps with big teams and the lethargic pace. but it's not a bad game, it just isn't what i personally like.

your problem is you went in expecting it to be like cod and it's not, so you are disappointed.
 

Durvelle27

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if you are a cod fan, and have never played a bf game, chances are you are expecting it to be like cod and it's not. it's a totally different style of game. im personally not a fan of bf games myself just because i don't like large maps with big teams and the lethargic pace. but it's not a bad game, it just isn't what i personally like.

your problem is you went in expecting it to be like cod and it's not, so you are disappointed.

I can agree here. It has a much different play style compared to COD. I myself am a COD fan and when i first played BF it was alot different than COD but i liked the realism. I do hate the large maps though as there hard to navigate compared to the small COD maps. But i don't have to worry about campers :biggrin:.

Also take into account its still Beta so its has some bugs and glitches. I would judge it after the final release drops
 

zerocool84

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Battlefield is all about the large battles with big maps and weapons. You don't get the large maps and large amount of players on current consoles but the new ones are taking care of that.
 

Lil Frier

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if you are a cod fan, and have never played a bf game, chances are you are expecting it to be like cod and it's not. it's a totally different style of game. im personally not a fan of bf games myself just because i don't like large maps with big teams and the lethargic pace. but it's not a bad game, it just isn't what i personally like.

your problem is you went in expecting it to be like cod and it's not, so you are disappointed.

Bad assumption to make, and I'm a little curious as to how much of my post you read. I actually said, "I was hoping to meet a new style of play and be challenged. . . " I expected to get into a game that was a vastly-superior product than Call of Duty, and I was expecting to be seriously challenged as I adjusted to a new type of game. I'm not saying I am dominating by any stretch of the imagination, just that the beta of Battlefield 4 doesn't seem to break any ground (beyond the destructible environments).

Basically, I see this like I saw The Dark Knight. I listened for months about how Battlefield was SO MUCH BETTER (like how I heard for months that The Dark Knight was such a phenomenal movie) than Call of Duty, so I was expecting that I would be met with a game that put Call of Duty to shame and blew me away with new concepts and such.

Instead, I got a prettier FPS, but not a whole lot else. The Domination game plays just like CoD, for the most part. The difference is that you count down instead of up, and dying counts against your team's score (though they up it from 200 points to 300 from CoD to BF, so the game's pace is comparable).
 

Lil Frier

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I can agree here. It has a much different play style compared to COD. I myself am a COD fan and when i first played BF it was alot different than COD but i liked the realism. I do hate the large maps though as there hard to navigate compared to the small COD maps. But i don't have to worry about campers :biggrin:.

Also take into account its still Beta so its has some bugs and glitches. I would judge it after the final release drops

I agree with you quite a bit. I like the realism, as well as the lack of a killcam (they use the Team Fortress 2 style of post-death footage). However, I abhor the map in the beta. It plays WAY too vertically, and it's too spread out. They aren't hard to navigate, but there can be long lulls in action on those maps, which kind of sucks.

I can't say I'll wait until the final product is out to judge the game. The whole idea of the beta is to give people a taste. Regardless, I dislike EA so much that they really couldn't do anything with Battlefield to convince me to buy it. I'm not likely to get any more 360 games, except maybe NBA 2K14 (since I skipped it last year). I have a LOT of 360 games to finish already, so I wouldn't even consider it until I got a One.

If I get the Xbox One, it'll probably be next summer, once I'm both out of college and I've had my birthday (meaning spare money to get it, possibly). By the time the summer rolls around, I'll probably just go for TitanFall, along with Halo, if it launches by then (as some have suggested).
 

RedRooster

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I was really disappointed in the BF4 beta, but it is what it is. I can't imagine playing another FPS on current gen, its just horrendous looking, this is nothing like BF3. For me BF3 was my pinnacle of FPS games, but this isn't even close yet. Even if they added the needed high res texture pack, the controls are still too weird(and uncustomizable) for me to enjoy it.
Going back to BF3 and will maybe try BF4 again when/if I get an XB1.
 

tential

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I was really disappointed in the BF4 beta, but it is what it is. I can't imagine playing another FPS on current gen, its just horrendous looking, this is nothing like BF3. For me BF3 was my pinnacle of FPS games, but this isn't even close yet. Even if they added the needed high res texture pack, the controls are still too weird(and uncustomizable) for me to enjoy it.
Going back to BF3 and will maybe try BF4 again when/if I get an XB1.

It's a beta....

Same with BF3 beta, they let people paly it, see the bugs/control issues and fix them.
I'm pretty sure the controls are customizable too, just they haven't added it into the beta for consoles yet (They were on the PC for me).

Personally, having played BF3 on console, I don't think Battlefield games are as enjoyable on console. Maps are TOO large for the maximum amount of players the consoles support. PC supports double (if i'm not mistaken) the amount of players which makes finding people easier.

That said, sometimes the large levels can really make it annoying traveling from one poitn to another and in general make it feel like your impact on a game is horrifically small. On COD and ESPECIALLY in Halo 4, I have put the team on my back. Specifically Halo 4, where it's a 4v4 game (infinity slayer only), I have gotten 20-30 kills and won the game for my team as the only person with a positive k/d.

Meanwhile BF4, yes I solo captured a TON of points so far, but yet still, people are prone to just sitting up on sniper perches just doing nothing and not even doign the objective, and in general your impact in a 64 person game is quite small. In a 30 minute game you're lucky to get over 30 kills(usually 15 around there) where as in Halo/Cod the ratios are much higher.

I may prefer other maps though.
 

basslover1

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It's a beta....

Same with BF3 beta, they let people paly it, see the bugs/control issues and fix them.
I'm pretty sure the controls are customizable too, just they haven't added it into the beta for consoles yet (They were on the PC for me).

Personally, having played BF3 on console, I don't think Battlefield games are as enjoyable on console. Maps are TOO large for the maximum amount of players the consoles support. PC supports double (if i'm not mistaken) the amount of players which makes finding people easier.

That said, sometimes the large levels can really make it annoying traveling from one poitn to another and in general make it feel like your impact on a game is horrifically small. On COD and ESPECIALLY in Halo 4, I have put the team on my back. Specifically Halo 4, where it's a 4v4 game (infinity slayer only), I have gotten 20-30 kills and won the game for my team as the only person with a positive k/d.

Meanwhile BF4, yes I solo captured a TON of points so far, but yet still, people are prone to just sitting up on sniper perches just doing nothing and not even doign the objective, and in general your impact in a 64 person game is quite small. In a 30 minute game you're lucky to get over 30 kills(usually 15 around there) where as in Halo/Cod the ratios are much higher.

I may prefer other maps though.

Current gen consoles will be stuck with 24P MP like in BF3, next gen will get the full 64P MP.