Ouch, I didn't even think to check if the latest ATI cards would be supported, figured that was a given. Crap, in time drivers will fix that, I hope.
Ouch, I didn't even think to check if the latest ATI cards would be supported, figured that was a given. Crap, in time drivers will fix that, I hope.
You should be able to run it... The 6600GT isn't listed but it runs fine on my system. Hell it seems some people with those cards have problems with the game crashing, etc.
Can you post ALL your settings? I definitely can't get this kind of performance. I've turned almost everything down to Medium.
The X800XL works fine in Battlefield 2. I currently use it and the game runs fine (with initial hesitation the first x seconds in the game while map details load).
The REAL issue with the 2GB vs 1GB should be eliminating hard disk access or minimizing it. I am very sure that going from 1GB to 2GB will eliminate the loading hesitation that occurs in Battlefield 2, let alone demo's like FEAR. The key measure becomes the resolution you are running and the level of detail you are requesting. I am sure if you go low resolution/low detail there will not be any loading hesitation. But when you want to run 1280x960 or higer with AA/AF and max detail, you will get load hesitation.
What I would like to know before I upgrade is can you maintain a CAS of 2.0/DDR400 with four modules? Can you mix XMS and value select if the CAS will drop to 2.5?
Thanks!
The REAL issue with the 2GB vs 1GB should be eliminating hard disk access or minimizing it. I am very sure that going from 1GB to 2GB will eliminate the loading hesitation that occurs in Battlefield 2, let alone demo's like FEAR. The key measure becomes the resolution you are running and the level of detail you are requesting. I am sure if you go low resolution/low detail there will not be any loading hesitation. But when you want to run 1280x960 or higer with AA/AF and max detail, you will get load hesitation.
What I would like to know before I upgrade is can you maintain a CAS of 2.0/DDR400 with four modules? Can you mix XMS and value select if the CAS will drop to 2.5?
Thanks!
What about using 1.5 GB? I currently have a P4 3.0 and 4x256 MB of DDR2. Upgrading to a match pair of 2 GB is hella expensive but a matched pair of 1 GB is reasonable. How would the game run on 1.5 GB?
This thread has risen from the dead. But heres my experience. I had 2X512 when I first bought this game. Upgraded to 2X1024 about a month later. Started getting crashes and blue screens. Ran memory diag, indead I had a bad stick. RMA'd the ram and went back to 2X512 for a week or so and have sence recieved my new 2X1024. I'ts very noticable theres inital stuttering and stuttering when the game gets busy. Now let me say there are servers that stutter and a high ping will cause you to stutter, but on a known server with low ping for me the game runs much more fluid with 2 gig than 1. Indead its as fluid as can be and its easier to get a high score when you have a hardware advantage. EQ2 was allready wanting 2 gig (though I dont enjoy that game). I guess I think its just time that a puter gamer wants 2 gig in his box.
My experience:
OK,
I installed the two new DDR3200 modules, now I have 512MBx4. The bios defaulted to 333, but I changed it to 400. I also had to move to 2T. Which is a big deal for memory bandwidth (you lose about ~1GB/s from 5600MB/s to 4800MB/s). However, it does not appear to impact games at all (as far as I can tell). To support this I have provided benchmark details (pre/post - basicaly 1T (1GB 512x2) vs 2T (2GB 512x4) - all the other memory timings are the identical in the test):
Here are the 1T results
PCMark02: CPU-6512, Mem-9984, HDD-1118
3DMark01: 20618
3DMark03: 10342
3DMark05: 4946
Aquamark: 62.9
CS SourceTest: 121.74
Here are the 2T results
PCMark02: CPU-6517, Mem-9560, HDD-1230
3DMark01: 20342
3DMark03: 10305
3DMark05: 4949
Aquamark: 62.19
CS SourceTest: 119.75
The memory upgrade made a HUGE difference in BF2 (no more hitching, loading, or whatever you want to call it at the beginning of map loads) at least in the three 32 player maps I played. Fear was better, but still seems to need better optomization for fluidity.
Key point: Look at the 3DMark scores and particularly the CS score. The impact of 2T vs 1T seems to be very trival. From the CS score it is 2 frames slower (big deal). In the FPS games (HL2, BF2, Far Cry, and Fear Demo) I could not tell the FPS impact in games. Maybe it's a couple of fps but well worth eliminating any possible HD caching IMHO!!!
BTW in case you are wondering why I didn't go the 1GBx2 path, it is to expensive (min. of $273). Over twice what I paid for 512x2 ($122.80).
OK,
I installed the two new DDR3200 modules, now I have 512MBx4. The bios defaulted to 333, but I changed it to 400. I also had to move to 2T. Which is a big deal for memory bandwidth (you lose about ~1GB/s from 5600MB/s to 4800MB/s). However, it does not appear to impact games at all (as far as I can tell). To support this I have provided benchmark details (pre/post - basicaly 1T (1GB 512x2) vs 2T (2GB 512x4) - all the other memory timings are the identical in the test):
Here are the 1T results
PCMark02: CPU-6512, Mem-9984, HDD-1118
3DMark01: 20618
3DMark03: 10342
3DMark05: 4946
Aquamark: 62.9
CS SourceTest: 121.74
Here are the 2T results
PCMark02: CPU-6517, Mem-9560, HDD-1230
3DMark01: 20342
3DMark03: 10305
3DMark05: 4949
Aquamark: 62.19
CS SourceTest: 119.75
The memory upgrade made a HUGE difference in BF2 (no more hitching, loading, or whatever you want to call it at the beginning of map loads) at least in the three 32 player maps I played. Fear was better, but still seems to need better optomization for fluidity.
Key point: Look at the 3DMark scores and particularly the CS score. The impact of 2T vs 1T seems to be very trival. From the CS score it is 2 frames slower (big deal). In the FPS games (HL2, BF2, Far Cry, and Fear Demo) I could not tell the FPS impact in games. Maybe it's a couple of fps but well worth eliminating any possible HD caching IMHO!!!
BTW in case you are wondering why I didn't go the 1GBx2 path, it is to expensive (min. of $273). Over twice what I paid for 512x2 ($122.80).
The most i will upgrade as of now is 1.5gb which would be enough for bf2 unless you have slow latency ram. I have 1gb and i might either add 256(cheap solution) or another 512mb just for a slight performance increase in upcoming games.
I think 1.5gb will work just as well as 2gb in BF2. Interesting note, while in a BF2 game I alt+tab out to check the task manager and it showed a peak value of 4529635 (4GB?). I am not sure what to make of this...
grohl
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Yeah I bit the bullet and upgraded to 2GB. Without all of the fancy benchmarking I can tell you the gameplay is very, very smooth. Much more than before.
To me spending $125 was an easy solution. I'm not going to crap on EA, I'm too addicted to this game to talk about all of the problems with it.
IF you are having hitches and slow gameplay on what is otherwise a fast machine, do the memory upgrade, you will not be disappointed.
To me spending $125 was an easy solution. I'm not going to crap on EA, I'm too addicted to this game to talk about all of the problems with it.
IF you are having hitches and slow gameplay on what is otherwise a fast machine, do the memory upgrade, you will not be disappointed.
Ok now how about this one.
I am 400Mhz overclocked with 1Gb, but if I add my other 512mb I will need to slow the system
down. Which is preferable. AMD XP 64 3200 @ 2.4Ghz with 1GB or @ 2.0-2.1 with 1.5GB?
Mark
I am 400Mhz overclocked with 1Gb, but if I add my other 512mb I will need to slow the system
down. Which is preferable. AMD XP 64 3200 @ 2.4Ghz with 1GB or @ 2.0-2.1 with 1.5GB?
Mark
U def need more than 1GB to run high settings with AA, AF at more than 1024x768. My system gets random chokes every now and then while gaming. Right now i'm looking around for 2GB sticks.
Gooberlx2
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My game doesn't chke or stutter anymore with 2gigs....but my framefrates seem to be lacking (haven't benched them though). Most everything is at medium, 2xaa, 1024x768. I think it's my video card. Dell 256MB 6800 (the vanilla version)....maybe someday I'll upgrade to a better vid card....for the most part it runs fine for me.
I'd cut the AA, but then the jaggies attack.....and BF2 seems to have SO many.
Comp Specs:
Dell Dimension 8400
P4 3.2GHz HT
2GB DDR2 (4x512MB)
Nvidia 256MB 6800
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
1x160GB 7200RPM HDD, 1x200GB 7200RPM HDD
Any ideas of what kinds of settings, framrates I OUGHT to get? I thought I'd heard that the ram on the vanilla 6800 was much slower than the gddr3 on the GTs....which kills their performance.
I'd cut the AA, but then the jaggies attack.....and BF2 seems to have SO many.
Comp Specs:
Dell Dimension 8400
P4 3.2GHz HT
2GB DDR2 (4x512MB)
Nvidia 256MB 6800
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty
1x160GB 7200RPM HDD, 1x200GB 7200RPM HDD
Any ideas of what kinds of settings, framrates I OUGHT to get? I thought I'd heard that the ram on the vanilla 6800 was much slower than the gddr3 on the GTs....which kills their performance.
Turn off shadows and dynamic lighting, leave everything else on high. If youre running a high resolution monitor, i wouldnt go higher than 1280x960 with a 6800 in BF2.
Make sure hardware sound acceleration and eax are enabled (X-FI).
Make sure you have the latest official nvidia drivers, there are performance improvements for BF2.
You could also try unlocking or OCing your 6800 for improved performance.
Make sure hardware sound acceleration and eax are enabled (X-FI).
Make sure you have the latest official nvidia drivers, there are performance improvements for BF2.
You could also try unlocking or OCing your 6800 for improved performance.
Bottom line: Anyone that plays BF2 at resolutions over 1024x768 should upgrade to 2GB of memory - you won't regret it!
I just came across this link and thought others might find it useful:
http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=463
http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=463
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