Battle of the Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

III

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The BATTLE is between ATI's 9500 Pro 128MB vs GeForce's 4600 128MB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have read all the tests and stats and want your honest opinion.

Hopefully some of you have these cards and can give some input here.

Check the prices, the GeForce is more expensive...........................is it worth it?

What do you think?:confused:






Also, where do you think the best deal would be?
 

jarsoffart

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I heard the Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro's hardware is exactly the same as the Radeon 9700 Pro. There is a software mod that enables the disabled hardware or something like that.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: jarsoffart
I heard the Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro's hardware is exactly the same as the Radeon 9700 Pro. There is a software mod that enables the disabled hardware or something like that.

They are cracking down on this folly, new PCB designs... chances are if you haven't already acted you won't get a magic saphire...

ANYWAYs...

the 9500 Pro > Ti 4600 hands down.

Not only the 9500 Pro generally less expensive, its performance is up to par with the Ti 4600 and even excedes the Ti 4600 when it comes to higher resolutions and/or FSAA/Anisotropic filtering turned up...
 

Serp86

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Erm - did you mean Geforce FX by any chance?

It's not even worth the time considerind which is the best. Radeon Rulez!!!!!!
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: jarsoffart
I heard the Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro's hardware is exactly the same as the Radeon 9700 Pro. There is a software mod that enables the disabled hardware or something like that.

Nope, you're misinformed. It's the Sapphire 9500 non-pro 128MB that is the wondercard. The one with memory in a 2-2 configuration (2 above the core, 2 to the right), not the new (and very abundant) version with 4 straight chips in a row. And they are not producing anymore of those cards. Those cards easily went to a 256-bit memory bus, but getting all 8 pipelines to work was a serious gamble.

The 9500 Pro cannot be modded to 9700. It has a 128-bit memory bus, and this is unchangeable.

That said I still think the 9500 Pro is the card to get. Similar in speed to a Ti4600 (a bit slower, but faster with AA and AF), the 9500 Pro is fully DX9 compliant, and therefore a much more future-proof card.
 

Mingon

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Are you just gaming? if so then flip a coin, if you do some 3d cad / model work then go with the nvdia card - the performance difference between a ti4200 and a 9700 in autocad is startling.
 

nRollo

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" Erm - did you mean Geforce FX by any chance?
It's not even worth the time considerind which is the best. Radeon Rulez!!!!!!"

What kind of wacky post is this? I seriously doubt R9500s are going to "Ruling" GF FXs when 9700s don't. Are you hepped up on goofballs?
 

CurtCold

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Originally posted by: Mingon
Are you just gaming? if so then flip a coin, if you do some 3d cad / model work then go with the nvdia card - the performance difference between a ti4200 and a 9700 in autocad is startling.


The 4200 owns the 9700Pro in AutoCad???????????????????

I thought Radeon 2D was where it was at????????
 

Mingon

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I am talking autocad 3d models and yes the 9700 is 'owned' as for 2d, I could see no difference between an inno3d ti4200 and a sapphire 9700. Put it like this a small 4mb file was a slideshow on autocad when paning / zooming / rotating with the 9700. I know you can do the soft mod to the firegl, but I prefer to be able to use it straight away.
 

BFG10K

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The 9500 Pro has hardware DirectX 9.0 support and is faster at higher resolutions combined with anisotropic filtering.
 

EmperorRob

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I'm at the same crossroads as III. I don't know how everyone else likes their resolution but I don't like to play games above 1024 b/c everything is tiny. How much difference is there between AA & Anis. and non-AA & Anis. at that resolution? I guess I haven't seen any really good screenshots to make up my mind.
 

sash1

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Originally posted by: EmperorRob
I'm at the same crossroads as III. I don't know how everyone else likes their resolution but I don't like to play games above 1024 b/c everything is tiny. How much difference is there between AA & Anis. and non-AA & Anis. at that resolution? I guess I haven't seen any really good screenshots to make up my mind.
As resolution goes up, the less the need for AA. So if you prefer lower resolutions, then you'll be wanting to use AA, which means the 9500 will better suit your needs.

~Aunix
 

CedarTeeth135

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Erm - did you mean Geforce FX by any chance?

It's not even worth the time considerind which is the best. Radeon Rulez!!!!!! Q]

Correct me if i'm wrong III, but I assume your trying to compare 2 near top of the line cards. If he wanted to compare with the GeForce FX, he would probably do it with the Radeon 9700 Pro.
 

Bovinicus

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Radeon 9500 Pro has DX9 support. It also performs much better with AA and AF turned on. AA and AF are essential in my opinion. I use them both with my Radeon 8500.
 

Budmantom

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The 4600 is not a bad card and probably a little less buggy then a 9500pro especially if you already have a nvidia card, who wants to reformat their hard drive.

just my .02
 

lchen66666

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Result of the vote can speak for itself.

Obvious ATI 9500 Pro wins the battle.

You would keep ATI 9500 longer because of DX9 hardware support.

 

Eug

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Originally posted by: lchen66666
Result of the vote can speak for itself.

Obvious ATI 9500 Pro wins the battle.

You would keep ATI 9500 longer because of DX9 hardware support.
People always say this, but usually by the time next gen games come out, the gamers buy new cards anyway.

As for me, I'm just puttering along with a 9100. :p
 

Bovinicus

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The 4600 is not a bad card and probably a little less buggy then a 9500pro especially if you already have a nvidia card, who wants to reformat their hard drive.
I don't mind having to reformat my HDD at all. Especially if it results in me being able to play games at high framerates, with high resolutions, and with AA and AF turned on.

Also, I see no evidence to support the statement that the 9500 Pro is buggy except for the preconceived notion people have about ATi video cards having bad drivers.