Battery holds charge better at work than at home

Rapsven

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So I've had my SGS3 for about 10 days now and I've noticed something. My phone lasts longer when I charge it from my micro-usb charger (plugged into a surge protector) at work than when I charge it from my micro-usb charger (plugged into a surge protector) at home. I've taken my home charger to work and my work charger to home and I get the same results.

When I charge from home, my phone can barely hold a charge for 10 hours. It has terrible battery life. But when I charge from work, it can hold a charge for 2 days. What is going on?
 

pm

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I have no idea. It makes little sense to me, but I would check the cables. Samsung phones charge best on Samsung cables because they Samsung puts a specific value of resistor between pins 4 and 5 of their cables to specifically enable a charging mode. So I can't think of anything else other than to swap the cables in addition to swapping the chargers.
 

Rapsven

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I have no idea. It makes little sense to me, but I would check the cables. Samsung phones charge best on Samsung cables because they Samsung puts a specific value of resistor between pins 4 and 5 of their cables to specifically enable a charging mode. So I can't think of anything else other than to swap the cables in addition to swapping the chargers.
The first charger and cable I have are from my old Samsung Galaxy S. The second set of charger and cable I have came with my SGS3. I already tried swapping them out at work and home. The same results occur. Better charging at work, regardless of the charger.
 

Ravynmagi

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It's all the electromagnetic fields around you at work. You might also be sterile now.
 

Phynaz

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Signal strength and quality. Lower quality means your phone has to use more power to stay in contact with the tower.
 

sygyzy

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I am sorry but you are focusing on the wrong culprit. The way you charge it (cable, surge projector), at home or at work has little to do with how much battery is used. Like others have said, your usage pattern and signal strength, have more to do with it.

I have never seen anyone analyze how much battery life is used at various locations. What's the point of this exercise? How does your S3 hold its charge at the supermarket?
 

MotionMan

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I have never seen anyone analyze how much battery life is used at various locations. What's the point of this exercise? How does your S3 hold its charge at the supermarket?

I have turned off wifi or gone into airplane mode in some places that have bad/no wifi or "cell" reception so that the battery does not run down from the phone searching for a connection.

It makes a huge difference.

As for OP, it makes some sense to notice a difference at the two places he probably spends the most time; home and work. I missed the part where he mentioned the supermarket.

MotionMan
 

Rapsven

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No, I mean, I keep my settings the same in the office and at home. But when I charge my phone at the office, it holds the charge for a lot longer whether I'm at the office or at home. But if I charge it at home, my phone dies out in less than 16 hours of standby time.
 

stormkroe

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Keeping the settings the same only makes it MORE likely that it's wifi/cell signal strength differences. It doesn't matter if you charge your battery with a 10 milliwatt plug that takes 700 days to reach full or if you're on dirty (squarewave) power from a cheap inverter, or if you burn a blue candle to the battery gods while you charge. mAH are mAH, only effected by power draw and losses.
 

saratoga172

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I don't think you guys are understanding what he is saying. Its not a work/home thing where he only gets x amount of charge time. He can charge it at home and go to work all day but the phone only holds a charge for 16 hours. Whereas if he had charged it from work the charge would hold for a couple days. Regardless of where the phone went.

He is saying the charge location is what is determining the amount of charge on it. In this instance the cell tower strength or time in wifi wouldn't make the drastic of a difference. Obviously other factors affect battery life.


OP this sounds very odd. Only thing that would make sense to me is that the battery may be over charging at work and being better topped off.Otherwise I have no idea. Try to swap it out?
 

jiffylube1024

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I don't think you guys are understanding what he is saying. Its not a work/home thing where he only gets x amount of charge time. He can charge it at home and go to work all day but the phone only holds a charge for 16 hours. Whereas if he had charged it from work the charge would hold for a couple days. Regardless of where the phone went.

He is saying the charge location is what is determining the amount of charge on it. In this instance the cell tower strength or time in wifi wouldn't make the drastic of a difference. Obviously other factors affect battery life.

You are getting your causes reversed. If his phone is charged to 100% at home and work, the "work 100%" charge doesn't hold more charge in the battery! That doesn't make sense! You're suggesting that a 100% charge at work is stronger/longer/better than a 100% charge at home?

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His scenario strongly indicates that either he's got a weaker WiFi or cellular signal at home (meaning more battery use) or that he's using the phone more at home or receiving more data at home. Time of day could be a culprit - perhaps there's more data being transmitted during off-work hours than during the workday?

I would bet it's either a weak WiFi signal or cellular signal at home, meaning more power usage. There could also be apps that run in the background that draw more power at the home scenario.
 

saratoga172

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You are getting your causes reversed. If his phone is charged to 100% at home and work, the "work 100%" charge doesn't hold more charge in the battery! That doesn't make sense! You're suggesting that a 100% charge at work is stronger/longer/better than a 100% charge at home?

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His scenario strongly indicates that either he's got a weaker WiFi or cellular signal at home (meaning more battery use) or that he's using the phone more at home or receiving more data at home. Time of day could be a culprit - perhaps there's more data being transmitted during off-work hours than during the workday?

I would bet it's either a weak WiFi signal or cellular signal at home, meaning more power usage. There could also be apps that run in the background that draw more power at the home scenario.

I'm not necessarily saying his work charge is holding more charge. It would almost seem like that but I know that doesn't happen. I honestly couldn't say off hand right now.

But if I'm understanding him correctly it doesn't matter what his signal strength or use is at home or work. Here is why:

Scenario one:
I charge my phone at home to 100%. I take the phone off the charger Monday morning at 7am. I head to work and am home at 6pm. By the time I'm going to bed at midnight my battery has run down. 17 hours. Moderate usage. couple calls, some texts and some browsing.

Scenario two:
I bring my phone into work on Monday on a low charge. Lets say 20%. I let it charge while I'm working until lunch. I take the phone off the charger at 100%. For arguments purposes lets say this is at 12pm. I get home at 6 again and go to bed at midnight. Plenty of battery still. Wake up the next morning, go to work, come home at 6pm. Go to bed at midnight with the battery almost run down. It's Tuesday and it's been 1.5 days...36 hours. Over double the battery life.

That to me is what the OP is asking. The only things changing are the location it was charged and the length of battery life. He is not saying the phone dies faster at home. Only that when it is charged at home the phone holds less of a charge. Regardless of staying at home afterwords or going straight to work.
 

stormkroe

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We just need some screen caps of battery usage for the 2 different scenarios. That would go a long way to solving this.
 

jiffylube1024

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The story is suspect. I don't think the OP realizes what days he's using the phone more and less, or that his usage models at home and work probably vary. Inevitably, he can check his phone as much as he wants at home; maybe less so at work.

During the two scenarios: when was it plugged/unplugged, for how long, etc. I think at home he leaves it off the charger more than at work, where it seems to be plugged in more.

In scenario 1, the phone is unplugged at 7am and is drained by 6pm.

In scenario 2, the first part of the story is irrelevant, the phone is unplugged at 12pm (100% charge). Then does he plug it in that night or not? By the sounds of the story, no he doesn't.
The next day he goes to work and comes home the battery is drained/almost drained.

Consciously or unconsciously he probably used the phone as little as possible on the 2nd day of scenario 2, because in the back of his mind (like anyone's) he's got to be thinking "I can't use this phone too much because it's already been unplugged for a day!"

Conversely, in scenario 1, he probably used the phone more between 7am and 12pm than he realized (that's an extra 5 hours of use on day 1 compared to scenario 2). It's got a full charge, why not use the phone a lot?

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Here's my experience with my G.Nex and GS II :

When you use the phone with the screen on, the phone drains very fast, like 5% every 10-20 minutes. When the phone is unused, drain is usually very slow, like 1% per hour (sometimes less).
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In scenario 1, he's probably checking his emails or other stuff on the phone a few times, so by noon the phone is already drained by 10, 20, 30%. Who knows? Did he use it on the bus/train (or does he drive to work?).

In scenario 2, the phone's usage doesn't even start till noon, then maybe he barely uses the phone (probably so because when he went to bed at midnight the phone had "plenty of battery" left.
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OP -- do you have a program like battery indicator installed that gives you the % of your phone? Because if not, you'd be surprised how much battery 5 minutes of using the phone can drain the battery, or how long the phone can keep an almost full charge if you don't use it at all.

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Try to set up a test where you leave the phone unplugged from 7am to 10pm when you go in to work, using the phone about the average amount you do. Then set up a scenario 2 where you do the same thing when you work from home. Even then, do you use the phone the same amount when you work from home as when you go in to work?
 
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lothar

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I'm not necessarily saying his work charge is holding more charge. It would almost seem like that but I know that doesn't happen. I honestly couldn't say off hand right now.

But if I'm understanding him correctly it doesn't matter what his signal strength or use is at home or work. Here is why:

Scenario one:
I charge my phone at home to 100%. I take the phone off the charger Monday morning at 7am. I head to work and am home at 6pm. By the time I'm going to bed at midnight my battery has run down. 17 hours. Moderate usage. couple calls, some texts and some browsing.

Scenario two:
I bring my phone into work on Monday on a low charge. Lets say 20%. I let it charge while I'm working until lunch. I take the phone off the charger at 100%. For arguments purposes lets say this is at 12pm. I get home at 6 again and go to bed at midnight. Plenty of battery still. Wake up the next morning, go to work, come home at 6pm. Go to bed at midnight with the battery almost run down. It's Tuesday and it's been 1.5 days...36 hours. Over double the battery life.

That to me is what the OP is asking. The only things changing are the location it was charged and the length of battery life. He is not saying the phone dies faster at home. Only that when it is charged at home the phone holds less of a charge. Regardless of staying at home afterwords or going straight to work.
The OP's story doesn't make any sense and neither does your explanation of "overcharging at work" or undercharging at home suggestion.
OP needs to post pictures of his battery details from system settings and BetterBatteryStats app...Screen time on, WiFi/GPS graphs/time, and Battery usage % for each app both when charged at home scenario and also when charged at work.

If there is nothing else changing besides location it was charged and length of battery life as you claim, then all these would almost exactly be the same.
 

Rapsven

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I don't even have Wifi on. I never use it because I never go through my data allotment month to month.

I just charged my phone an hour ago at home. I'll post a screenshot of the battery when it's further down (currently it's at 93%, it's discharging fast).
 

ponyo

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I don't even have Wifi on. I never use it because I never go through my data allotment month to month.

I just charged my phone an hour ago at home. I'll post a screenshot of the battery when it's further down (currently it's at 93%, it's discharging fast).

It means the cell signal at your house sucks and that's draining your battery. You're getting stronger cell signal at work.
 

gorcorps

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My cell phone doesn't last at work either because the signal is shoddy.
 

Rapsven

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It means the cell signal at your house sucks and that's draining your battery. You're getting stronger cell signal at work.
Dude, I thought we covered this already. If I charge at work, no matter whether I'm at work or home, the battery lasts a lot longer. If I charge at home, no matter whether I'm at work or home, the battery lasts a lot shorter.