ViRGE
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And that's after they toned it down. In the original script it was even more gruesome.
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Fritzo
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Yeah, Kevin Conroy is his name, and that guy IS Batman. He nails it perfectly, which is why they've used him for 20 years. Same with Mark Hamill as the Joker.
zinfamous
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NFS4
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:thumbsup:
even Prince got involved.
Keaton + Nicholson + Jack Palance + Lando Calrissian + Tim Burton + Prince's music = EPIC WIN!
Don't get me wrong, the new Batman movies are all well and good, but the Batman voice is just comically retarded.
irishScott
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Meh, my big issue with the Burton Batman was the Joker. Don't get me wrong Jack Nicholson is the man, I just didn't see him as much of a threat. Poisoning random bars of deodorant and shampoo? Ooooooo guess I'll just shower with bar soap. Problem solved!
Likewise I never understood why, during the parade, someone didn't just snipe the bastard. We're talking about an acknowledged criminal overlord who has openly tried to kill everyone in the city. I know they were trying to demonstrate Gotham's Greed, but that's just absurd. Someone would have done something. Plus the key to his final plot is... parade balloons? What is he going to take out a few city blocks? Gotham's a big place, kinda underwhelming as a master plan. Bottom line, he just seemed like an extra-psychotic gangster. I could see Burton's joker being taken out by a SWAT team even during his most diabolical plan.
Now take Ledger's joker, he's blowing up Hospitals. He's robbing banks and knocking off gangsters. He's taking out cops and elected officials. He's continuously intimidating and stirring millions of people into mass panic and mobs with brutally diabolical plots. The national guard is called in and even they can't contain the situation. This guy is a SUPERvillan that only Batman can effectively take on.
I will admit Michael Keaton is a much more natural Batman, although Bale does a bang up job IMO.
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irishScott
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I've never understood the complaints about the voice. Accept it as part of the character and get fucking used to it like the rest of the world that doesn't bitch about it.
Ichinisan
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I've never understood the complaints about the voice. Accept it as part of the character and get fucking used to it like the rest of the world that doesn't bitch about it.
To me, it sounds like a regular guy trying to make it hard to recognize his real voice...and I think that's exactly what they're going for.
He does over-do it a bit, though. The scene in Begins, where he drops-off the Falcone pics to Rachel Dawes...ugh!
I finally got a chance to watch this.
It does nothing for me. I don't really understand why you think it's so great. It might be because I never got in to the 90's batman cartoons, I don't know...
The Dark Knight the best one? I actually almost walked out. Not because it was bad but because it was too damn long. It should have ended about 40 minutes sooner and cut out the two face scene and everything after. Without Heath Ledger's performance it's nothing to really talk about. He carried that movie.
Batman Begins is better imo. Then the 1989 version. The rest are crap. Comic relief at best if you're on morphine in the hospital.
Batman Begins is better imo. Then the 1989 version. The rest are crap. Comic relief at best if you're on morphine in the hospital.
Heat and Batman came out the same year. I'd think it was the weaker roles after that.
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Batman actually got hurt after every fighting scene in the last one. But the plot was very good and the late Aussie played The Joker awesomely. Last guy I have seen that can play a bad guy that good was John Travolta
Ichinisan
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I agree with this.
The animated Batman was fantastic, and far better than the live-action movies, right up until the Christopher Nolan Batman which of course is perfect.
The Joel Schumacker movies in particular were bad. So very bad. I sort of get that it was supposed to be a play on the Adam West campiness of the 1960's, but it just wasn't very well done.
Ichinisan
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I think the animated one is a bit over-rated. It's definitely cheaply-done by foreign animators (it wasn't originally intended for theatrical release).
Blasphemy!
I do think the later series in the mid 1990's was better, and batman beyond is overlooked.
I haven't really cared for any of the animated since batman beyond.
I agree. The Dark Knight has some of the worst pacing of any major movie I've seen. I think only Rocky is worse as far as popular/award-winning/etc goes (or at least that was so bad that its my biggest issue with it). I personally think Ledger's acting in it is very overrated as well. I think people are just letting the makeup fool them a lot; that and a lot of people apparently didn't know he could act (he was better in Brokeback Mountain). I don't even think it was a good Joker. To me, Joker is more like the recent Batman games and the animated Batman movies.
The Burton Batman movies are really odd for me. On the one hand, there is some good quality to them, but on the other, there's just something off. For the time, especially the first, was pretty good. I don't think they held up well though.
Batman Forever tried to go for more camp and a comic feel which is why the characters overdo it. I don't hate it, but its not a great movie. Parts of it are pretty baffling, like the noir/golden age (1910s/20s/30s) look it tried to go for only to have that stupid futuristic Batmobile, the "Box", or the EL/blacklight when Robin took out the Batmobile. I think it really highlighted what was wrong with the Burton films as well. They do some interesting noir type of stuff, but then screw it up with the things here and there (and cross the line with cheese too much).
Begins did a good job as it focused on making things seem modern and make the world seem more coherent. Its not a perfect movie, but it was solid. The Dark Knight has great scenes, but some of it should not have been in the movie (like the whole scene with the ferries; that actually would have been great as the basis for an entire other movie though), and the rest feels too stitched together and kinda wonky.
irishScott
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So I gather you and randomrogue aren't ones to be emotionally sucked into movies? That's the thing with The Dark Knight, I was sucked in and it kept me going throughout the whole thing. The ferry scene was one of the most intense scenes I've ever seen in a movie. I wasn't thinking about how it compared to the rest of the film, I was too busy being enthralled by the action and circumstances, which were quite satisfying.
The hallmark of a good movie for me is that I'm so pulled into it that I forget I'm in the theater. The Dark Knight did that for me in spades, and for most people from what I've heard.
Printer Bandit
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Pens1566
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Maybe if you're under 18. Original Keaton Batman is a very good movie. And that's not an unpopular sentiment.
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