Batman Begins vs Spiderman 1

platinumike

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I saw BB last nite for the first time, and it is now my fav. super hero movie, and definitely a really enjoyable moive to watch. They did a really good job showing how batman created the suit,cave,got started,etc. which the other batman movies failed to do. I liked spiderman, but just always preffered batman, even since i was a kid.
 

bigrash

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i liked Spiderman 1 better. but I liked either of the first two x-men movies better than both sm1 and bb
 

Scarpozzi

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They were different movies altogether....I mean style-wise.

BB was a cinematic experience with more believable special effects.

Spidey is more of a computer graphics fantasy that has some inexcusable gaps. It's more of a classic-style superhero flick that should be compared more with the original Michael Keaton Batman (minus Tim Burton's signature touches)
 

archiloco

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tobey mguier is too damn winey to play spiderman........liked it but he's too much of a puss.......i like batman begins :)
 

purbeast0

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Batman was much better than spiderman. And spiderman 2 was pretty weak. I am not even looking forward to spiderman 3 after watching part 2.
 

PingSpike

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I liked both of these movies a lot, so its kind of a tough call. Spiderman had the better fight scenes simply because the director didn't film them with a shakey camcorder. However, the batman character and back store was much more fleshed out and better presented so I had to go with batman.

I think in the long run the batman series will be stronger though. There were already a lot of weak points in the second spiderman and I can't think of a possible way for them to do all the new characters they're introducing in the third justice, without making the movie five and a half hours long. So I have to conclude that the third movie is probably going to kind of stink.
 

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I thought the way they linked the end of BB into the original Michael Keaton Batman from the early 90's (late 80's?) was a very classy and extremely awesome twist. I wish they could leave that in there, and maybe the one after that, and continue the series after the Joker/Catwoman/Penguin sagas. Noone will ever do the Joker as good as Jack Nicholson, and any attempts will come off as a bad remake and ruin the movie. Anything with Robin, Val Kilmer, or any kind of neon lighting whatsoever I refuse to believe is part of the Batman universe.

Also, voted Batman Begins. I loved Spiderman, but BB is an entirely new level of awesomeness.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: archiloco
tobey mguier is too damn winey to play spiderman........liked it but he's too much of a puss.......i like batman begins :)

I totally agree.

Based on the movies, Spiderman is a pussy.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
I thought the way they linked the end of BB into the original Michael Keaton Batman from the early 90's (late 80's?) was a very classy and extremely awesome twist. I wish they could leave that in there, and maybe the one after that, and continue the series after the Joker/Catwoman/Penguin sagas. Noone will ever do the Joker as good as Jack Nicholson, and any attempts will come off as a bad remake and ruin the movie. Anything with Robin, Val Kilmer, or any kind of neon lighting whatsoever I refuse to believe is part of the Batman universe.

Also, voted Batman Begins. I loved Spiderman, but BB is an entirely new level of awesomeness.
Agreed. I just hate that BB and the Michael Keaton Batman are different when his parents are killed....if you remember in the Michael Keaton version, his parents are killed by Jack before he turns into the Joker.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
I thought the way they linked the end of BB into the original Michael Keaton Batman from the early 90's (late 80's?) was a very classy and extremely awesome twist. I wish they could leave that in there, and maybe the one after that, and continue the series after the Joker/Catwoman/Penguin sagas. Noone will ever do the Joker as good as Jack Nicholson, and any attempts will come off as a bad remake and ruin the movie. Anything with Robin, Val Kilmer, or any kind of neon lighting whatsoever I refuse to believe is part of the Batman universe.

Also, voted Batman Begins. I loved Spiderman, but BB is an entirely new level of awesomeness.
Agreed. I just hate that BB and the Michael Keaton Batman are different when his parents are killed....if you remember in the Michael Keaton version, his parents are killed by Jack before he turns into the Joker.


Yeah, I forgot about that....at least he's not a whiney bitch like Spiderman 2.
 

PingSpike

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I'm pretty sure BB was intended as a reboot/reimagining of the whole series, not a prequel that was going to keep continuity with the old films. And thank god since most of them were garbage.

SLIGHT SPOILER:

I really liked how the movie focused on the batman character so much, and how it portrayed the wayne family as "destined" to be protectors of gotham city.
 

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Spiderman was more entertaining, BB was a better movie.

Kind of like comparing Gladiator to Braveheart.

Both a page out of the same genre of movie types. Just a different approach to doing them.
 

EvilYoda

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Without getting too detailed, I think the Batman was a great action film that happened to be about a well-known superhero. Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman directed by Christopher Nolan...just amazing.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Spiderman was more entertaining, BB was a better movie.

Kind of like comparing Gladiator to Braveheart.

Both a page out of the same genre of movie types. Just a different approach to doing them.

Unlike your analogy, though, both of them didn't suck. :p
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
I thought the way they linked the end of BB into the original Michael Keaton Batman from the early 90's (late 80's?) was a very classy and extremely awesome twist. I wish they could leave that in there, and maybe the one after that, and continue the series after the Joker/Catwoman/Penguin sagas. Noone will ever do the Joker as good as Jack Nicholson, and any attempts will come off as a bad remake and ruin the movie. Anything with Robin, Val Kilmer, or any kind of neon lighting whatsoever I refuse to believe is part of the Batman universe.

Also, voted Batman Begins. I loved Spiderman, but BB is an entirely new level of awesomeness.
Agreed. I just hate that BB and the Michael Keaton Batman are different when his parents are killed....if you remember in the Michael Keaton version, his parents are killed by Jack before he turns into the Joker.

Yeah, that's the one plot hole that keeps them from being a seamless transition. Unfortunately they way they addressed his familys killers in both movies were pretty major plot points, so they couldn't just randomly change one of them to fit.

Honestly, I would be more than happy to ignore that glaring hole in exchange for them not pissing on Nicholson's performance as the Joker by trying to remake the villain.
 

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Batman Begins hands down. Spiderman was a great movie, but BB was just done so much better IMO.

Oh, and BTW, Peter Parker has always been a wuss, so Tobey Maguire is the perfect Spiderman.
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Spiderman was more entertaining, BB was a better movie.

Kind of like comparing Gladiator to Braveheart.

Both a page out of the same genre of movie types. Just a different approach to doing them.

Unlike your analogy, though, both of them didn't suck. :p

Whoah, whoah, whoah... hold on a minute there cowboy... Braveheart was one of the most awesome movies ever. Gladiator was pretty cool too, although more for the imagery and ambiance than the actual plot.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Spiderman was more entertaining, BB was a better movie.

Kind of like comparing Gladiator to Braveheart.

Both a page out of the same genre of movie types. Just a different approach to doing them.

Unlike your analogy, though, both of them didn't suck. :p

Whoah, whoah, whoah... hold on a minute there cowboy... Braveheart was one of the most awesome movies ever. Gladiator was pretty cool too, although more for the imagery and ambiance than the actual plot.

No, I'm pretty sure they sucked.... :D