Bathroom Fan/Light Combo

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dlock13

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Hello there,

So we're in need of some help in our bathroom. The fan doesn't seem to suck out enough moisture causing the ceiling and walls to become wet. I'm thinking it is underpowered for the room size. I don't know the model/brand off the top of my head.

What are my options here? I can get a new fan/light, but I don't know to begin with that and how to install it. I know when we leave the door open, we barely get any moisture in there, but that isn't always going to be an option for us.

If it does come down to a new fan/light, what would be my best bet for around $100?

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boomerang

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New home to you? If not, did it work well at one time?

People are going to need to the square footage on the bathroom in question to make recommendations. Also, some fans have the fan motor built into the housing and some setups will have the fan mounted remotely in the attic and that fan may serve more than one bathroom.

Lots of questions. Pricing will vary too based on how quiet you want it to be.

I replaced the fan in our master bath from below and it was a real PITA with the blown in insulation over the batt insulation. That blown in shit was deep on the floor before I was done. One of those projects I wish I hadn't started.
 

dlock13

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New home to you? If not, did it work well at one time?

People are going to need to the square footage on the bathroom in question to make recommendations. Also, some fans have the fan motor built into the housing and some setups will have the fan mounted remotely in the attic and that fan may serve more than one bathroom.

Lots of questions. Pricing will vary too based on how quiet you want it to be.

I replaced the fan in our master bath from below and it was a real PITA with the blown in insulation over the batt insulation. That blown in shit was deep on the floor before I was done. One of those projects I wish I hadn't started.

It is a new home to me. We just purchased it in October.

I believe the square footage is a little less than 70. From what I can tell, the fan motor is built into the housing in the bathroom. It isn't placed in the attic.

We don't mind noise. The one we have now is pretty quiet which leads me to believe it is underpowered and/or the vent is possibly clogged. I'll have to check it out tonight when I get home and see if I can give you more information.
 

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I love Panasonic exhaust fans, very quiet, they were like the only company that makes quiet exhaust fans 5+ yrs ago, but I am starting to see some companies are making them too. I doubt that you can get one with light for under $100. If you could get one that has the exact same size opening as the existing one or one that is bigger, it would make your job so much easier.
 

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Before you replace the vent fan, check the vent itself. I have seen many butchered installations over the years where vents dump out into the attic or simply into the space between wall studs.
 

boomerang

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Take a look at that fan too. Here at our secondary residence, I removed the one in the master and the fan itself was really caked with dry gunk. I don't know how else to describe it. The shaft on the fan was pretty rusty and there was no way the plastic fan was going to come off that shaft so I had to scrape the gunk off. I would have loved to remove it and clean it with soapy water.
 

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Maybe you can. I've purchased replacement motors and fans at the hardware store for Broans in the past. Removing the old stuff from the ceiling box was fairly trivial.
 

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I love Panasonic exhaust fans, very quiet, they were like the only company that makes quiet exhaust fans 5+ yrs ago, but I am starting to see some companies are making them too. I doubt that you can get one with light for under $100. If you could get one that has the exact same size opening as the existing one or one that is bigger, it would make your job so much easier.

We are looking at the Panasonic for the very reason you note. We have 2 bathroom fans we are installing in July and from poking around the Panasonic are well rated.

I will follow up on this thread in a couple months; one bathroom has a wall mount but the ancient steel fan doesn't work while the second bathroom has no vent/vent hole at all but the roof has essentially no crawl space (very low pitch roof) so I believe we will need to get a wall mounted exhaust fan.
 

iRONic

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I replaced a loud & slow light/fan combo with this Panasonic heat/fan combo. Very quiet. No need for a light because our vanity light is six bulbs of sun-ish brightness.

1 x Panasonic Fans - WhisperFit-Warm FV-07VFH3 Bathroom Fan - 70 cfm - 3 Inch or 4 Inch Duct (FV-07VFH3) = $166.00
 

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We have two bathrooms that need wall exhaust vents. One bathroom, the Main Bath, currently has a broken one installed on the wall. The Master Bath has no vent. Neither bathroom has a crawl space big enough for a cieling vent.

416 cu ft = Main bath: 8'3" x 7'2" (7' ceiling)
222 cu ft = Master bath: 6'4" x 5" (7' ceiling)

Based on the general rule of thumb (1 CFM for every 10 sq ft) a 70 CFM fan should be OK for both. The sizing chart backs this up:

http://www.efi.org/factoids/bathroom_sizing.html

My father-in-law is going to be here in 2 weeks and help me install but I am reading up now so I can prep and know what I am getting myself into. I am pretty confident my father-in-law knows what he is doing (journeyman machine repairman, owns his own corn farm, did a fair bit of the electrical on his new house he built) and there is a good chance my brother-in-law (engineer who is months away from finishing his own home) i.e. I am going to be the tool holder and general planner. Very little risk of me electrocuting myself or doing something wildly wrong. Which is why I haven't done this project yet.

We are considering:

For the 416 cu ft Main Bath an $195 Panasonic WhisperWall 70 CFM Wall Mounted Fan. Less than 1 sone. We have 6 kids and the bath is close to the dining table and kitchen so we don't want it loud and assume it will need to run a lot for at least 4 showers a day, toilet flushing, etc.

There is already a switch for the fan installed so I am guessing this will be very easy (another brother-in-law tested the wiring and said they still looked ok; the current fan is just very old, all metal, and looks like the bearing froze).

For the 222 cu ft master bath I am considering a $55 simple Broan 70 CFM 3.5 Sone Wall Ventilator. Nothing fancy. This fan will need to be tied to the light switch. Looks like this Broan is under 60Watts from what I could tell but I want to be sure it won't be too much of a load.

Bonus: For the garage we are looking for an exhaust, too. It has been getting VERY hot. The side effect is the pressure from the hot air is pushing stale smelling air from the garage into the vent to the small attic crawl space above our bedroom closet and makes the bedroom stink of stale, warm air.

Not sure if a 270 CFM vent ($124) or something more radical like a 470 CFM ($79) would suffice. Don't need anything fancy like a sensor--we would just flip it on on hot days (early morning) or in the fall/spring when it gets really damp to help flush out some of the stale moist air. My thought is with a fan sucking the hot air out it would draw air out of the attic vent instead of the hot garage air pushing into the house through that vent.


Thoughts?
 
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MrPickins

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Am I the only one who prefers that the bathroom fan have some noise to it?

Covers unfortunate sounds :D
 

dlock13

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Finally got the fan/light replaced due to the previous one biting the dust. Went to Home Depot and bought a $60 dollar light/fan combo with a 70 CFM rating. It is slightly louder than our previous fan, but it works a billion times better. After our showers for the past couple of days, I've not noticed any kind of condensation like we used to get.

Pretty easy to install as well which was awesome for me since it was my first time replacing something of that sort. I wasn't really sure what to expect with regards to the ducting, but it was an ease to get that hooked up.
 

bigi

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Am I the only one who prefers that the bathroom fan have some noise to it?

Covers unfortunate sounds :D

:|:\ Sounds? What do you do there eat meals?

People fart, fap, fuck and shit in bathrooms. No need to cover noises by fans.
 
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