Basic sound card recommendation

Sahakiel

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So, been considering picking up a sound card for the computer. Finally fed up with buzzing on all onboard chip sets. However, I can't seem to find a suitable solution. My requirements are simple, almost basic, but from what I can gather, there have been no new card releases in years. Where are the new cards? Why have there been no updates in the past few years? I've been through four boards with onboard sound since my Audigy died and not a single one didn't have buzzing or high-pitched whining.
Before you ask, no, I don't hear the noise if I unplug the headphones or turn the PC off.

Criteria:
1. PCI-Express. I'm not upgrading this regularly. It has to last, which means after PCI finally disappears. External is more clutter, easier to lose, a lot easier to break, so USB is out of the question.
Quite frankly, I'd prefer manufacturers stop producing motherboards with PCI slots, but that's a different discussion.

2. Windows 7 x64 driver support out of the box. Like I said, I want to keep this around for a while. That means I don't want to have to pray there's a workaround to get Vista drivers working. I don't want to try wrestling with beta drivers or risking some system update that later breaks the driver and choosing to keep my system insecure or ditching the sound card because the vendor stopped support before Windows 7 even came out. I want it to work now with no OS compatibility issues and having continuing support for at least a couple years from now.

3. I don't really game, and when I do, I'm less concerned with immersion and more concerned about position. Music playback is a priority, EAX I couldn't care less. My setup is modest, mainly a pair of headphones. That means quality analog playback. Digital is unnecessary.

Very short and simple list, yet nothing fits the bill. I basically want the same functionality I get with onboard, but without the line noise. A lot of people recommend Xonar cards, but those are not only a old/discontinued, their driver support for Win 7 is shoddy or nonexistent. I don't want to drop a couple hundred bucks for a random BSOD generator and I don't want to pay a hundred bucks in restocking/return shipping fees testing cards. I just want a basic card that works well.
 

borisvodofsky

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There are NO choices when it comes to sound cards unless you're willing to spend $xxx

IF you truely care about your music, then look up Op-amp Mod, and buy a USED x-fi extreme music.

Currently the BEST sounding PC combination under 100 dollars.

The Azuentech and Xonar cards are "mehh" they're basically 'pre-modded' cards.

The problem is, you STILL have to remove the muting transistors for them to seriously perform.

Anyone else that says they got an x-fi gamer and it sounds great is LIEING to you.
 

konakona

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There are NO choices when it comes to sound cards unless you're willing to spend $xxx

IF you truely care about your music, then look up Op-amp Mod, and buy a USED x-fi extreme music.

Currently the BEST sounding PC combination under 100 dollars.

The Azuentech and Xonar cards are "mehh" they're basically 'pre-modded' cards.

The problem is, you STILL have to remove the muting transistors for them to seriously perform.

Anyone else that says they got an x-fi gamer and it sounds great is LIEING to you.

Since he doesn't care about gaming, I think he would be better off with a usb/spdif dac. That means little of course, since none of this meets his pci-e only criterion. Just saying since ryou mentioned "BEST sounding" (not an x-fi variant modded or not)

EDIT: nvm, you did say under 100 dollars. yeah, you might be right then.
 

Rifter

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Its going to cost you, but the ASUS Xonar STX would work great for that application.

Its got a headphone amp. It also comes with swappable op-amps to fine tune the sound and its got one of the best DAC's you can get on a soundcard for excellent analog output.

Honestly its alot of cash and i would suggest most people stay with onboard as you need a pretty good system to notice the difference most of the time. However with headphones you pick up alot of noise you dont notice on a speaker system for some reason. I use mostly headphones but also have a 2.0 Stereo setup and this card has given me way cleaner sound than anything i have tried before. my .02
 

kornphlake

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Rather than buy a new soundcard I'd buy a headphone amp with an optical digital input. No analog hissing since it's all digital coming out of the computer, It's been a long time since I saw a motherboard that didn't have an SPDIF output and I'm guessing it'll be around for a while longer, plus you could connect this to other audio equipment you might have should you want to listen to CD's or DVD's through your headphones. Since you're a headphone guy you'd probably benefit from a better amp anyway.
 

Sahakiel

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Thanks for the input.
I will take a look at this op amp mod for the x-fi. However, I don't recall much good to be said about Creative drivers.
I would really prefer not to have a separate headphone amp for the same reasons I avoid USB sound cards. Everything that involves a headphone I pull off the PC anyway.
Although, it seems as if there are really no options that don't involve an external device.
 

shingletingle

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There are NO choices when it comes to sound cards unless you're willing to spend $xxx

IF you truely care about your music, then look up Op-amp Mod, and buy a USED x-fi extreme music.

Currently the BEST sounding PC combination under 100 dollars.

The Azuentech and Xonar cards are "mehh" they're basically 'pre-modded' cards.

The problem is, you STILL have to remove the muting transistors for them to seriously perform.

Anyone else that says they got an x-fi gamer and it sounds great is LIEING to you.

You mean "LYING".
 

jaqie

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There are two basic choices for you in my honest opinion, others' opinions are going to vary a lot, of course.

If noise is an issue, option 1 is going to be a USB sound card. Turtle Beach makes a couple of pretty good and yet fairly inexpensive USB sound cards, they both have toslink out as well as analog. One is 5.1 channel and $40ish and the other is 7.1 channel and $70ish. Then there is the $5 USB 2 channel sound cards (including shipping) at amazon. If you are only interested in stereophonic sound without noise from inside the case, it cannot hurt to drop a $5 just to see if it fits your needs!

Option 2 is, honestly, the asus xonar DX. That is quite literally an audiophile quality sound card at non audiophile prices. Check out some real audiophile reviews of that card, and you will see that for sound quality it beats everything up to twice and maybe three times its' price.

Myself, personally, I bought the lga775 gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L specifically for it's ALC888 sound chip and gigabyte's history of producing motherboards that don't ruin analog output with noise... and I am very happy with it, using an old pre-crap era sony STR-DE425 home theatre headunit and good home theatre speakers for my sound. (audiophile on a budget here)

Honestly, for my non media PCs (stuff I just do console stuff to and maybe listen with headphones once in a great while) those little $5 usb sound cards work great.
 

KGB

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Another vote for getting an X-Fi Xtreme Music and doing the op-amp / capacitor mod.

Yes, the Creative drivers are bloated but still usable.