Basic quick question - quick answer

[Battalion23]

Recently my needs changed, and instead of building a desktop, I'm going to buy a notebook. Do the cpu rules still apply on notebooks ? AMD cpu's kick Intel ass in everything besides decoding audio/video ? does the ML series match or take the M series or the duo series?

 

[Markfw]

There is no quick answer to this one. The dothan Intel chip is pretty good. Even though the MT and ML series are both very competative, the dothan is considered my many superior. This is a big discussion, and all I will assert, is that 1) They ARE close in performance, and 2) The AMD series is allways less exspensive. At least I have yet to find a similarly equiped Dothan vs the Turion. My son got his with 80 gig hd, dvd burner and 512 meg memory for $750 AR. The best I have seen from Intel is over $1000 for the same equipment.

 

[Battalion23]

see, when i started designing my desktop, i had no idea what's going on, then i started reading all the threads and checking all the benchmarks. in short - amd was cheaper and kicked ass, on single thread apps, and is always much cooler. people told me that if i'm planning to have multiple apps running i would be better off with intel. then the x2 series came out and there was no question. Now i've completely changed my goal, and i need a powerfull laptop. i don't want to wait another 6 months for the amd dual core notebook cpu's come out , and find their way into enough models to choose from, and in a good price. As of today, if I choose a very strong laptop , what's the best cpu i can put ? I was thinking of using the intel duo 2.0 , and then i remembered i almost made that mistake in the past, and decided to check here. also , i would always preffer to use ddr2 , instead of ddr, truthfully, i'm not that sure it'll make a difference for me, but hey, it's supposed to be better, and i have the money for it...

 

[stevty2889]

Are you running any SMP aware applications? If so, core duo is basicly your only real choice at the moment. The dual core turions are supposed to be coming pretty soon as well. Clock for clock though, pentium-m does keep up pretty well with AMD. Basicly the desktop CPU rules you were looking at were A64 versus Pentium-4 and X2 vs Pentium-D. The netburst chips were slower and run a lot hotter compared to X2 and A64. When it was pentium-4 vs A64, pentium-4's still did slightly better at video encoding, but more expensive and run a lot hotter. X2 on the other hand pretty much whipes the floor with pentium-d's.

 

[dmens]

Just get a yonah, it beats all of AMD's offerings on mobile.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: dmens
Just get a yonah, it beats all of AMD's offerings on mobile.

OP, in case you're not up on the code names, Yonah = Core Duo. Grab the fastest duo you can afford, you won't be disappointed.

 

[themusgrat]

INTEL. Just this once.

 

[Battalion23]

Okay, checked around a bit , two more questions:
1. Yonah Vs. centrino duo ??? maybe it's the same thing, and I'm just reading enough details ?
2. notebook graphics Radeon x1600 or Nvidia 7400 go ? When i was planning my desktop , i was all Nvidia after two comparisons , now... i'm not sure. I've switched form amd to intel, maybe i need to betray again ?

my two major options now are acer tm 8200 , or an asus v6j , which i can configure with more ram, to match the acer.

thanks everybody

 

[Ionizer86]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
2) The AMD series is allways less exspensive.

Exception here. You can buy a low speed, retired, (~1.5 to 1.7) pulled OEM Pentium M Dothan for sub $100 aftermarket. These chips also happen to pinmod. (1.5 --> 2.0, 1.6 --> 2.13, 1.7 -->2.26)
Thus, you can save quite a bit of money by buying some Celeron laptop on a modern chipset like the 915, then getting a cheap Dothan and pinmodding it into the laptop. This lets you achieve nice performance without breaking the bank.

 

[Marmion]

Originally posted by: Battalion23
Okay, checked around a bit , two more questions:
1. Yonah Vs. centrino duo ??? maybe it's the same thing, and I'm just reading enough details ?
2. notebook graphics Radeon x1600 or Nvidia 7400 go ? When i was planning my desktop , i was all Nvidia after two comparisons , now... i'm not sure. I've switched form amd to intel, maybe i need to betray again ?

my two major options now are acer tm 8200 , or an asus v6j , which i can configure with more ram, to match the acer.

thanks everybody

1) Yonah is the codename for Core Duo. Centrino Duo a marketing platform, consisting of a Core Duo, Intel chipset (945) and intel wireless (3945).
2) ATi X1600 is faster than the 7400 (Comparable nVidia to the X1600 is the 7600)

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Ionizer86

Originally posted by: Markfw900
2) The AMD series is allways less exspensive.

Exception here. You can buy a low speed, retired, (~1.5 to 1.7) pulled OEM Pentium M Dothan for sub $100 aftermarket. These chips also happen to pinmod. (1.5 --> 2.0, 1.6 --> 2.13, 1.7 -->2.26)
Thus, you can save quite a bit of money by buying some Celeron laptop on a modern chipset like the 915, then getting a cheap Dothan and pinmodding it into the laptop. This lets you achieve nice performance without breaking the bank.

I mean the WHOLE laptop.