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baseball fielding question

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blackdogdeek

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i checked on mlb.com under their official rules and couldn't find an adequate answer.

here is the question:

if a player, while fielding a foul pop up, falls over the railing into the stands then stands up and catches the ball while in the stands, is it an out?

likewise, if a player while fielding a regular pop up, falls over the railing into the home run stands then stands up and catches the ball while in the stands, is it an out?
 
If the player stands up in the stands in either case, the ball is either a foul or a home run. If he catches it in the act of falling, it is an out.
 
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
If the player stands up in the stands in either case, the ball is either a foul or a home run. If he catches it in the act of falling, it is an out.
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see, now that's what i thought the answer was.
 
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
If the player stands up in the stands in either case, the ball is either a foul or a home run. If he catches it in the act of falling, it is an out.
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Correct
 
1 YES EDIT what's the difference between this and just running into foul territory and standing up and catching it. i think fould territory is all considered the same, in stands or on field


2 NO it's a HR. you could then just stand behind the wall and catch home runs all the time
 
There is nothing in baseball that says a player cannot cross into foul territory and cross back in to fair territory to make a play. That's only in football.
 
Originally posted by: JeffCos
There is nothing in baseball that says a player cannot cross into foul territory and cross back in to fair territory to make a play. That's only in football.
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He's not, he's going into the stands and staying in the stands and then catching the ball.
 
I don't think it is a home run. I think its an out.

Same reason they can jump and catch a ball that otherwise would have been out of the field.
 
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: JeffCos
There is nothing in baseball that says a player cannot cross into foul territory and cross back in to fair territory to make a play. That's only in football.
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He's not, he's going into the stands and staying in the stands and then catching the ball.
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oh ok, sorry, i misread...yeah still an out. i'm pretty sure you can catch the ball anywhere and it's an out.
 
Dom Forker has a series of books with questions like these with explanations, etc. This was definetly covered in at least one of them.
 
what's more fair for all parties involved is if the fielder keeps himself in the field of play, then the catch is legit.
 
I'm not sure but I think the foul ball is an out but the home run is a home run. I think home runs, to be an out, must be caught from the field of play, but a foul ball is in foul ball territory and it doesn't matter about the stands.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
what's more fair for all parties involved is if the fielder keeps himself in the field of play, then the catch is legit.
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No, because foul ball territory can be quite extensive before the stands come into effect. Most fields, the player can be well into foul ball territory and yet some distance from the stands. This is not the case with home run territory where there is the dividing line separating it from the field of play, typically a fence of some sort.

 
1) For the foul ball to be considered an out, the player must be in the field of play while catching the ball ie. the player cannot jump into the stands, and run up the stairs to catch a high popout (assuming they had time to do so).

2) A ball that will clear the fence can be caught by the player, assuming they also remain in the field of play. If a player were to catch a flyball above the wall, and land back in the field of play, it's called as an out. If the player were to tumble over the wall, then the ball would be considered a homerun.

I don't know where in the rulebook they're written, possibly under the Field of Play section (the actual book, not online). I'm just trying to remember what we were told in the minors..
 
We were actually talking about that with a few friends the other day. We came to a conclussion that players cannot go into the stands. The argument being - that if they could, they would do that all the time, since several parks have low railing.
 
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: rh71
what's more fair for all parties involved is if the fielder keeps himself in the field of play, then the catch is legit.
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No, because foul ball territory can be quite extensive before the stands come into effect. Most fields, the player can be well into foul ball territory and yet some distance from the stands. This is not the case with home run territory where there is the dividing line separating it from the field of play, typically a fence of some sort.
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I don't know if you understood I meant "field of play" to include all of foul territory in any given ballpark. This is where the dynamics of any ballpark can come into play. If you catch it and you're still on the field (not in the stands or beyond a fence)... it's good.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: rh71
what's more fair for all parties involved is if the fielder keeps himself in the field of play, then the catch is legit.
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No, because foul ball territory can be quite extensive before the stands come into effect. Most fields, the player can be well into foul ball territory and yet some distance from the stands. This is not the case with home run territory where there is the dividing line separating it from the field of play, typically a fence of some sort.
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I don't know if you understood I meant "field of play" to include all of foul territory in any given ballpark. This is where the dynamics of any ballpark can come into play. If you catch it and you're still on the field (not in the stands or beyond a fence)... it's good.
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Ah, okay, I was distinguishing foul ball territory from fair territory. Now I understand what you mean. I'm pretty sure about the home run situation (must be from the field of play) but unsure about the foul ball situation, although you are probably correct.

 
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
1) For the foul ball to be considered an out, the player must be in the field of play while catching the ball ie. the player cannot jump into the stands, and run up the stairs to catch a high popout (assuming they had time to do so).

2) A ball that will clear the fence can be caught by the player, assuming they also remain in the field of play. If a player were to catch a flyball above the wall, and land back in the field of play, it's called as an out. If the player were to tumble over the wall, then the ball would be considered a homerun.

I don't know where in the rulebook they're written, possibly under the Field of Play section (the actual book, not online). I'm just trying to remember what we were told in the minors..
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This is correct. You must be in the field of play in order for an out to count.

After making the play you can fall outside the field of play and the out stays as long as the out was made while you
where in the field of play. The best example of this is dugouts. Dugouts are out of the field of play. But you can catch
a ball and fall into the dugout and the batter is still out. However, in this case any runners on base are allowed to advance one base.

More odd rules. A player cannot use his hat to catch balls. Nor can a field throw his glove at a ball to stop it.
 
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
1) For the foul ball to be considered an out, the player must be in the field of play while catching the ball ie. the player cannot jump into the stands, and run up the stairs to catch a high popout (assuming they had time to do so).

2) A ball that will clear the fence can be caught by the player, assuming they also remain in the field of play. If a player were to catch a flyball above the wall, and land back in the field of play, it's called as an out. If the player were to tumble over the wall, then the ball would be considered a homerun.

I don't know where in the rulebook they're written, possibly under the Field of Play section (the actual book, not online). I'm just trying to remember what we were told in the minors..
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regarding one i think you are wrong.

I hav seen times when a fielder has fallen into the stands then made the catch.
 
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