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barton vs p4c

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l3ored

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does anyone know of some comparison benchmarks? sorry if i start a flame war, but now that bartons are locked, im undecided
 
P4C is a better choice, 2.6c for 175$ retail overclocked to 3.2ghz+ isn't uncommon and will spank my Barton 2500+@2.43ghz at most anything.
 
I was in the same situation (between a Barton 2500 and P4 2.6C) and after reading countless benchmarks, reviews, and things people have said about them (and a lot from someone who owns both systems), I decided to go P4. Now I have used AMD for a while, actually here is my system history lol:

1997 - IBM Pentium 166
1999 - Gateway Pentium3 500 (mobo died so I rebuilt it with new mobo/case)
1999 - AMD K6-2 500 custom built (finally switched from the "dark side" lol!)
2001 - AMD Athlon T-Bird 1333MHz
2003 - AMD Athlon K7 SlotA 850 given to me (2 weeks ago)
future 2003 - P4 2.6 baby!

So as you can see I really am no Intel fanboy, but I just think that Intel has them beat! And its only costing me $70 more ($40 if you buy a aftermarket HSF for the barton to O/C - the P4 can use the stock retail one), so I really can't buy another barton and go out to lunch with $40...
 
With Barton being locked, I would much rather get P4c. Barton loses the main advantage it had in multi flexibility. You didn't need fast ram to run Barton high since you could just raise multi. Now with only FSB overclocking, you're going to have to have expensive ram to go with it. If I'm going to have to buy fast ram, I might as well buy P4c since difference in price of CPU is slight considering the speed advantage P4c has on Barton.

I see huge drop in Barton sales.
 
It doesn't really matter...between those 2 processors, I can guarantee you see any difference in performance (unless you enjoy just running benchmarks all day...).

My suggestion:
1. choose which features you want in your motherboard
2. pick a quality mobo manufacturer (my choices would be ASUS, Intel, or MSI)
3. figure the cost of mobo and chip, then pick the cheaper combo

JMHO
 
intel does cost way more if you factor in the mobo, an nf7-s and a 2500 is half as much as an ic7-max3 and a 2.6c, im wondering if the performance between the two is worth it (or any mobo features that intel might have)
 
yeah but the MAX3 is like a top of the line mobo! You are comparing apples and oranges! The IS7 and the NF7-S are comparable mobos! But the performance/price ratio for AMD is better, but for this build, Im going for speed! Honestly though, the Barton 2500 will provide for a great system! So im not hating either way, but I just have some $$$ and I can afford the extra $70.
 
Originally posted by: l3ored
isnt nf7-s the top of the line amd mobo? whats the difference between the 865 and 875 chipsets?
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Well that statement on the nf7-s is debatable. for the price the nf7 is a great mobo. The bigest difference between the two is features. The 875 has alot more features built into the northbridge which means morefeatures=more money. If you want SATA and IDE Raid and anything else you could want then you want an 875. If you just want SATA and dual channel then you just need a 865. N-Force 2 boards for AMD on the other hand are more versatile as they have only a few things on the northibridge and the rest the manufacturer ads via other chips on-board.

IMO the very best board for NF2 boards are the two boards from DFI, the lanparty nf2 and the other nf2 board that they just came out with. The lanparty is desxigned for features and is a great overclocker and their new one is designed for overclocking and though I haven't seen a review for the new one if it even as god as the Lanparty then it will be awesome.
 
Originally posted by: l3ored
checked some reviews at toms hardware, and the 2.4 often outperfomrs the 3200...
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NEVER trust toms hardware. They are hugley biased. I used to believe in toms too but I have compared some of their results to others and they are very biased.
 
You know, I don't like Intel, but in this case, I'd have to say to get the 2.6C and get a dual channel mobo with some PC4000s. Or get some PC 3200's and lower the memory timings.
 
Originally posted by: SpeedFreak03
Yeah but the IS7 P4 board is cheaper than the comparable Abit NF7-S...
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zipzoomfly:

IS7: $101
Nf7-s: $105

not much of a difference considering the nf7-s will save $ for a sound card

anyway, overall, the 2.6C/IS7 combo is better but dollar for dollar 2500+/nf7-s is better
 
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