I was really wanting to build an intel system, but it will cost me nearly 100 bucks more to go with a 2.8c vs a 2800. How much performance and stability am I losing by going with a barton 2800.
barton 2800 vs intel 2.8c
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I'm not really sure if you're even losing any performence with the barton, but buying it will sure be a better deal.
Of course it depends what use is your system is going to be for - if you're into video editing and encoding, the Intel 2.8 will be much better for you.
If the system is for gaming, surfing, etc. you should deffinately go for the Barton, which will give you a much much better price/performence value. The 100$ you'll save can be used for a better graphics card, more RAM, a better cooling system or whatever you want to invest them in.
Of course it depends what use is your system is going to be for - if you're into video editing and encoding, the Intel 2.8 will be much better for you.
If the system is for gaming, surfing, etc. you should deffinately go for the Barton, which will give you a much much better price/performence value. The 100$ you'll save can be used for a better graphics card, more RAM, a better cooling system or whatever you want to invest them in.
I like my 2.8C running at 3.5 without even trying 
. Look at what else you are getting for memory before making a choice.
. Look at what else you are getting for memory before making a choice.
videoclone
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get the Barton with an Nforce2 Board u get a good sound card with that and a Very stable rock solid system i would say even more stable then the P4c .... ive used both and the Nforce2 with Barton CPU's never crashes ever but the P4c does. IE765 board
save your money! or use it for more ram bigger hard drive or better vidcard!
Its more beneficial then a little bit faster CPU
save your money! or use it for more ram bigger hard drive or better vidcard!
Its more beneficial then a little bit faster CPU
well, i wouldnt really call clocking a 2500 to 3200 to be overclocking, since their both the same cpu's. all u have to do is set the fsb to 400, and its set. no more 2500, just 3200. most motherboards u buy from like abit, asus, soyo, epox, biostar, and etc unlocks the cpu for u to run it at 3200. with stock fan, u get a temp of about 40 celcius.
RussianSensation
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Get the Barton 2500+ $75, $10 cheap heatsink like Speeze FalconRock, Abit NF7 v2.0 $75 (no need for the S version unless you care for SATA, Firewire and Soundstorm Audio). Then, simply adjust the front side bus to 200 => 11 x 200 = 2200 @400 fSB or 3200+.
Now, assuming P4 2.8 costs $170, Abit IS7 = $90 => $260
Above setup is $160. Savings of $100 like you said. If you want to make yourself feel better put that $100 towards the now $200 Radeon 9800Pro.
Of course it's somewhat an unfair argument since I didnt overclock the P4. In essence if you overclock you are looking at Athlon 3200+ vs. P4 3.2ghz (at least) so in that case 3.2ghz probably has 10% adv in games tops. Is that really worth spending $100?
Remember unless you are comparing Athlon 1600+ to P4 3.2 the difference is huge in games, otherwise it's not so bad. In that case it would make sense to invest in a better videocard.
Thats my 2 cents.
Now, assuming P4 2.8 costs $170, Abit IS7 = $90 => $260
Above setup is $160. Savings of $100 like you said. If you want to make yourself feel better put that $100 towards the now $200 Radeon 9800Pro.
Of course it's somewhat an unfair argument since I didnt overclock the P4. In essence if you overclock you are looking at Athlon 3200+ vs. P4 3.2ghz (at least) so in that case 3.2ghz probably has 10% adv in games tops. Is that really worth spending $100?
Remember unless you are comparing Athlon 1600+ to P4 3.2 the difference is huge in games, otherwise it's not so bad. In that case it would make sense to invest in a better videocard.
Thats my 2 cents.
He said he wasn't into o/c. I vote for the barton: 100 bucks can do a lot. Assuming is for regular surfing, gaming stuff like that.
I've used a barton, i've used a p4, and i currently have an a64...
i say barton 2800+ is the way to go.
Hands down at the moment, amd barton chips will give you the best bang for the buck...
barton + epox 8rda+ = dirt cheap and great performance...
i say barton 2800+ is the way to go.
Hands down at the moment, amd barton chips will give you the best bang for the buck...
barton + epox 8rda+ = dirt cheap and great performance...
OK - Overclocking is overclocking is overclocking. Barton or P4, if you aren't running at the FSB that the chip was SOLD AS, you are overclocking.
apoppin
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I have both P4 3.2Ghz from dell and Barton 2500+ overclocked to 3200+ with ASUS a7n8x board. I'm using computers just for the number crunching, i.e., optimization or random number generation. I'm kinda disappointed by Barton 2500+ performance wise. It doesn't compete with P4 3.2Ghz. :brokenheart:
Well, at least I didn't pay for the P4 3.2 for myself. So that was a relief.
JJET
Well, at least I didn't pay for the P4 3.2 for myself. So that was a relief.
JJET
Like ppl said no ocing and mainly gaming then get the 2800+....If you encode more then gaming then it can be a tossup....My 2500 oc'd to 3200+ barton was piss poor in most of the encoding apps I ran and through all of my test and types of applications I ran it was only comparable to a 2.8c....So non gaming apps look at a 2.8c as a 3200+ Barton....Throw in HT optimised applications and the barton 3200+ couldn't beat my 2.4c stock....
Things to consider but the 2800+ is a sweet price so those increases may not worth as much as the money in your pocket.
Good luck you will be happy with either one...The ocing can be your builtin upgrade later when you want a couple hundred mhz of more power...
Things to consider but the 2800+ is a sweet price so those increases may not worth as much as the money in your pocket.
Good luck you will be happy with either one...The ocing can be your builtin upgrade later when you want a couple hundred mhz of more power...
i have the 2500+ and when i oc after trying games at stock it makes them unbelievably smoother and just overall so much better. Personally i would go with the barton, but that might be because i am a poor bastard
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