barton 2800+ @2.02v on air!!!

leeperpsu

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ok guys remember how i had the verifying dmi pool data problem well i think i fixed it cause i'm stable now

my specs are:

multi-11.5
FSB-211MHz
barton 2800+ @ 2.43GHz
ram is 422MHz
timings are 11,2,2,2

Vcore is believe it or not 2.02v cooling is slk-800 with Tt tornado fan, 9 well placed fans
Temp idle is 49C
Temp load is 53C

Scores are:
3dmark2001se - 17,312
3dmark03 - 5118
3dmark03 cpu score - 714

sandra benches cpu=9100,3648 mem=3261,3083 (97%,92% efficiency)

PCmark2002 cpu = 7528 mem=6887 Harddrive=1166


so what do you guys think....4 long weeks and i am finally satisfied!!!!
 

infinite012

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Umm....I'm going to guess that you're not getting a DIODE TEMPERATURE READING!! If you do, then you'll $hit your pants...seriously. My diode temp at 1.7v maxes out at 60C under full load....so if you're at 2.02........100C? meltdown!
 

infinite012

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I don't think there's an option for it with the Epox 8RDA+...or at least that's what I've heard. My monitor of choice = MBM5. The developers website has instructions on how to set up the program for your specific motherboard and mine was one of the few that could do diode temps.

GL my friend :D
 

leeperpsu

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thats pretty cool....at muliple programs reading 53C as load temp whats the actual diode temp? like60-65?
 

Peter D

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even if you have a tornado on that thing, i think 2.02v is way too much for air, even water. good luck with that though, hope nothing bad happens =\
 

Jeff7181

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infinite012, wouldn't Asus Probe give you temps from the diode?

*EDIT* an XP2800 is a realtively expensive chip to feed 2.02 volts to...
 

Duvie

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I agree 2+v with air cooling equates to possibly a drastiaclly shortened life span of the chip.....

The actual question is about vcore did it take to run 2.3ghz??? I often see that when the vcore starts getting above 1.85v you really get less and less per each jump and so the added speed for the much higher added risk never seems to pencil out.

You would have been better off to get a cheaper barton 2500+ and rod the hell out of it....less of a loss when it starts to crap out and much more of a speed increase to justify the risk...
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: infinite012
Umm....I'm going to guess that you're not getting a DIODE TEMPERATURE READING!! If you do, then you'll $hit your pants...seriously. My diode temp at 1.7v maxes out at 60C under full load....so if you're at 2.02........100C? meltdown!

theres no way that chip will ever see 100c.......seeing as they are only rated to 80-85c before the go up in smoke.
however ill agree 2.02v is a little much for air
 

Excelsior

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^What they said. 2.02 volts on a Barton? WTF are you thinking?! You need to check Overclockers.com. No one there needs more than 1.9V to get up to 2.43, or even higher. Did you even try running lower voltage?!
 

leeperpsu

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hey excelsior

WTF was i thinking you ask??? well considering i'm not a freaking idiot...yes i tried lower voltages...in fact my procedure was organized and i know exactly what voltage for different speeds. dude you must have no idea about bartons cause 1.9V won't get you passed 2.37. your so worried about my chip melting....i bet my temps are lower than yours!!!
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
^What they said. 2.02 volts on a Barton? WTF are you thinking?! You need to check Overclockers.com. No one there needs more than 1.9V to get up to 2.43, or even higher. Did you even try running lower voltage?!

i run mine full time 1.975v mobo over volts to 2.02v shes been this way since i had her.....first barton shipment newegg ever had......runs fine.......besides if ya look at AMDs tech doc they stat .5v OVER stock is the MAX the CPU is rated for....which means 2.15v max. he shouldnt have any problem...well not untill his next cpu change out anyways.
but on air tho i wouldnt do it....

 

drewdogg808

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Originally posted by: leeperpsu
hey excelsior

WTF was i thinking you ask??? well considering i'm not a freaking idiot...yes i tried lower voltages...in fact my procedure was organized and i know exactly what voltage for different speeds. dude you must have no idea about bartons cause 1.9V won't get you passed 2.37. your so worried about my chip melting....i bet my temps are lower than yours!!!

i don't see anything wrong w/more than 1.9-2.0v. many people on other forums run high voltages and are fine. but there people with bartons that did 2.4ghz with 1.8-1.85v though.

don't let anyone get you worked up....it's your chip. :)
 

infinite012

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
infinite012, wouldn't Asus Probe give you temps from the diode?

*EDIT* an XP2800 is a realtively expensive chip to feed 2.02 volts to...

No, asus probe gives out the socket reading. If you use MBM5 and make it use the asus bach 1 readings then you'll see some relatively high numbers compared to your socket reading.

Example: I ran my 1700+ @ 2.2GHz with 1.6vcore just to be sure and according to asus probe, my CPU was perfectly fine at around 50C full load. I then opened up MBM5 and it was around 55C for the diode and the same reading for socket that asus probe gave out.

edit: punctuation is not my friend, but i punctuated :)
 

Jeff7181

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LOL... I installed MBM again, and it's using the thermal diode now... running SETI it's 52 C at 2.2 Ghz on default voltage. AT 2.3 Ghz on 1.8 v, it gets up into the high 60's :Q ... I think I'll stick with it at stock voltage... 100 Mhz isn't THAT important to me =)
 

Jeff7181

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The hotter it gets, the less accurate the motherboard's sensor seems to be. It was telling me 52C when the diode was telling me 66.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: leeperpsu
hey excelsior

WTF was i thinking you ask??? well considering i'm not a freaking idiot...yes i tried lower voltages...in fact my procedure was organized and i know exactly what voltage for different speeds. dude you must have no idea about bartons cause 1.9V won't get you passed 2.37. your so worried about my chip melting....i bet my temps are lower than yours!!!

Im assuming you meant "ass" Have no idea about bartons? just go check around other forums, etc. When I had my friends 2500+ I certainly didnt need anywhere near 2V to get to 2.4, I got to 2.4 and my board maxes out at 1.8. Im not worried about it melting, I just dont think it is wise but its not my chip and as others have stated, it its still "within" the limits. About temps..I really doubt you are reading the diode, because I don't care how well your fans are placed, etc, but a Barton at 2.02v couldn't be running that cool on air. No way. For instance, my "cpu die" is reading 43C load. Yep, thats hotter than yours
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DivideBYZero

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Calm down kids.

He meant 'Ask' and Leeperpsu, you should not react so badly to ppl who are only warning you of the impending doom you are about to bring on to your Barton.

2.0v+ belongs with the watercooling boi's and thats that. The air crew stick to 1.85 tops more often than not.

Take it easy out there...:D
 

pspada

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Calm down kids.

He meant 'Ask' and Leeperpsu, you should not react so badly to ppl who are only warning you of the impending doom you are about to bring on to your Barton.

2.0v+ belongs with the watercooling boi's and thats that. The air crew stick to 1.85 tops more often than not.

Take it easy out there...:D

Or there are wussies like me, who perfer to run at default voltage. My 2700+ did 11.5x200fsb = 2305Mhz on default voltage, exactly the same as my 3000+ now does. Sure, I'm not running at 2.4, but I suspect that my chip will last much longer than yours (leperpsu's) will.

 

MDE

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Two words just about sum up the thoughts of 90% of the people responding to this thread "You're nuts!" but it's your chip, make sure you tell us when it dies