Barbs or Quick Connects?

[Lazien]

I would like to attempt a WC setup without a T-line or Res. To accomplish this I'm thinking of using quick connects with a res, then after it's been run for a day or so to get out all the air bubbles I want to quick disconnect out the res. I figure if I submerge the res and quick connects in coolant during the switch no air should get interduced into the system.

My goal for the WC system is to look really elegant with few if any corners or bends and still preform at top-notch levels.

I realize that barbs are safer leak-wise and that quick connects are easier to use. Other than that is there anything else?

Anyone have any thoughts on how I could do this?

 

[HardWarrior]

IMO, just a res will do if you want effortless fill-and-bleed. I use quick disconnects for the sole reason of making flushes easy. As fas as barbs they're going to be needed no matter how your system is configured.

Just so we're on the same page:

These are barbs.

Go here, and under "Pipe, Tubing, Hose and Fittings" click "quick disconnect hose couplings."

 

[Lazien]

Thanks for the info Hard Warrior, I already knew what the differences were

The point of this discussion is that I have the equipment at work to vacuum/hermetically seal the WC system after setup. As stated in My previous post, I'm just trying to work out any "kinks" in the methodology with which I want to go about doing it. I know there are ALOT of experts on these forums who most likely battled with the same things that could make the entire process much simpler on Me because easy is always better

 

[HardWarrior]

My apologies then. The way you were discribing the two respective items indicated to me that you thought they were interchangeable in a water cooling system. If I may ask, what "kinks" are you referring too, and what data\benefit do you expect to derive from a vacuum-sealed cooling system?

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
My apologies then. The way you were discribing the two respective items indicated to me that you thought they were interchangeable in a water cooling system. If I may ask, what "kinks" are you referring too, and what data\benefit do you expect to derive from a vacuum-sealed cooling system?

By 'kinks', I believe he means problems with the theory rather than kinks in the tubing.

 

[HardWarrior]

I assumed that much, but thanks anyway.

 

[Lazien]

I read a very lenghty post on reserviors and how they degrade the preformance of a pump and WC system in general. I can't find the link now but I'll post it when I do. Anyway, it raised some questions that I have not thought about such as, wave occiliations creating pressure changes that impair pump flow and head pressure. Also, with an internal res the coolant temps would supposedly go up a bit as well. I hear T-line's can reduce flow rates as well so that is why I want to attempt to do without both.

 

[HardWarrior]

Res's are another bone of contention in water-cooling. Of the 4-years I've been reading about WCing I've seen posts by MANY T-line afficianodos. In general, the vast majority come up with some fairly extreme and unjustified reasons for not using a res. In my experience, having used both res's and T's, there simply isn't that much difference between the two in terms of performance, not to mention pros and cons associated with both. Also, and I think this is very important as well, resevoirs exist in all shapes and sizes. From tiny 3 1/2 inch in-case models to large, multi-gallon, external vortex units. Which of these are T-line fanatics speaking of when they nearly DEMAND that no one use a res?

For me, the benefits of a res far outweigh any detrements, real or imagined.

At any rate. I look forward to your findings, Lazien. It would be nice to see some hard numbers to offset all the emotion and self-serving presumptions. :thumbsup:

 

[Lazien]

I kinda figured that the differences would be almost imperceptable between a res and t-line but some of the heated discussions about them got Me thinking that for such a small cost I can do some testing on them as well and solve this issue. Although I'm sure My findings will be widely disregarded by the losing team anyway

 

[HardWarrior]

:laugh: How true!

 

[wasserkool]

no, i read in procooling forums that the different between having a res and not having a res is nil. You won't get better or worse temp with a res..

btw lazien, if you want good tubes, i suggest you take a look at this:
http://www.alphacool.de/perl/shop.pl?s=...=2&prod_id=160&art_kz=161&art_id=16126

these are special type of hoses that never kinks and they'll stay in shape, so you can route them along the edge of your case for the ultra neatness

 

[HardWarrior]

One thing I have noticed about having a res coupled with a lot of surface area. My temperatures don't spike much in response to load temperatures. My coolant jumps 2-3C and then settles back to expected load temperatures very quickly upon achieving equilibrium. Once my rad fans spin-up, I get another 2-4c drop in temperatures.

 

[wasserkool]

yupz...i think having a large body of water is that it will be a good temperature stabilizer w/o the spikes in temp hardwarrior mentioned. IT basically increases the heat capacity of the system.

THis has been observed by Zalman reserator that uses large amount of water, it takes several hours for the system to attain the max temp underload.