Barack Obama: it is no longer essential to kill Osama bin Laden

[alchemize]

Barack Obama: it is no longer essential to kill Osama bin Laden

My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

...
As recently as October 7, in a presidential debate, Mr Obama said: "We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority."

I guess if you put it in those precise terms you would be correct. But how the heck could that even be possible, if he's in a cave, he's being supported which means he's communicating with his operatives. If he's releasing tapes, he's communicating with his operatives.


/preemptive strike
Yes yes, I'm sure I suffer ODS and I've improperly interpreted the nuance around this. In the meantime I'll be searching the archives for your previous statements on this when Bush went down this path.

 

[Genx87]

Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

Unfortunately.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

eh, not really


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

 

[alchemize]

Here's a thread from 2005 for your perusal

Link

 

[RichardE]

You guys need to think outside the box. Obviously the US has an issue with releasing its military plans to the media, but it is not hard to see what Bush and now Obama are doing. Obviously Bin Laden is well hidden, and if telling the world the search is off, over and over will make him relax his movements ect to the point where we can catch him, than that is a good idea. I mean, why else publicly state this? It is the oldest trick in the book and you guys are falling for it hook line and sinker


Further edit: If you look at the history of American war, one thing the US is good at is propoghanda, either towards its own citizens or the citizens of other countris.

For example

Text

Even though you guys might think it is typical for the government to tell you every single military movement I am sure people in the military as well as intelligent individuals can say that any information to come out of the government military wise serves some double use of information and misinformation.

 

[Skitzer]

Maybe he has been briefed and realizes that it won't be as easy as he thought?

 

[Xavier434]

I don't really care as long as this country stays safe.

 

[Budmantom]

Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't want to kill Osama Bin Laden....... what a surprise.....

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

eh, not really


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

This

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: RichardE
You guys need to think outside the box. Obviously the US has an issue with releasing its military plans to the media, but it is not hard to see what Bush and now Obama are doing. Obviously Bin Laden is well hidden, and if telling the world the search is off, over and over will make him relax his movements ect to the point where we can catch him, than that is a good idea. I mean, why else publicly state this? It is the oldest trick in the book and you guys are falling for it hook line and sinker


Further edit: If you look at the history of American war, one thing the US is good at is propoghanda, either towards its own citizens or the citizens of other countris.

For example

Text

Even though you guys might think it is typical for the government to tell you every single military movement I am sure people in the military as well as intelligent individuals can say that any information to come out of the government military wise serves some double use of information and misinformation.

You may be right, however I would prefer that he didn't address it at all at this time. Americans know who was responsible for 9/11 and the part Bin Laden played. Instead of bring it up, just do it and tell us after or say nothing at all.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't want to kill Osama Bin Laden....... what a surprise.....

He's protecting his secret muslim co-conspirator... duh.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't want to kill Osama Bin Laden....... what a surprise.....

is my sarcastic meter broken? you can't be serious.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

yes it does.

but many will continue to kiss his ass and make excuses.

as i have said what really makes people think he is going to be so much diffrent then any other politician?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

Yeah, I think so too.

Perhaps after some intel briefings he decided back off that rhetoric?

IMO, our "biggest national security priority" ought to be keeping us safe, not killing some @sshat in a cave. Next month, next year - I don't really care, just so we do eventually 'get him'.

Fern

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

Yeah, I think so too.

Perhaps after some intel briefings he decided back off that rhetoric?

IMO, our "biggest national security priority" ought to be keeping us safe, not killing some @sshat in a cave. Next month, next year - I don't really care, just so we do eventually 'get him'.

Fern

You could tell later in the campaign when he was clinching this thing up his tone changed quite a bit about the WoT. It is almost like he was briefed about the situation and realized how real life will be as president. The idealist gave way to the realist. Which is fine imo.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

eh, not really


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

This

Bush was a pussy for not sending 30,000 more troops into Pakistan to go get him.

 

[jonks]

"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," Obama said.

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't want to kill Osama Bin Laden....... what a surprise.....

All these years on a forum and you still can't read, or write (it's Barack)....what a surprise

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

Except that he can speak English.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

Except that he can speak English.

You um uh are um uh right.

 

[2Xtreme21]

I'd honestly be cool with carpet bombing the entire Afghan-Pakistani border.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds an awful lot like Bush.

Unfortunately.

Very unfortunate..

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: RichardE
You guys need to think outside the box. Obviously the US has an issue with releasing its military plans to the media, but it is not hard to see what Bush and now Obama are doing. Obviously Bin Laden is well hidden, and if telling the world the search is off, over and over will make him relax his movements ect to the point where we can catch him, than that is a good idea. I mean, why else publicly state this? It is the oldest trick in the book and you guys are falling for it hook line and sinker


Further edit: If you look at the history of American war, one thing the US is good at is propoghanda, either towards its own citizens or the citizens of other countris.

For example

Text

Even though you guys might think it is typical for the government to tell you every single military movement I am sure people in the military as well as intelligent individuals can say that any information to come out of the government military wise serves some double use of information and misinformation.

I've always felt this way about what our Government says about Wars. Everybody cries "bush lied to us" and I think "morons. No shit he lied. We have an open media. At this point, it's his fucking job to lie. Where is the military strategy in saying anything about operations, especially in time of War?"

If the president said "we are sending some jets to alaska to pick up some eskimoes" and instead bombed the fuck out Russia" I'm sure people would cry "war crimes! our pres lied!" and i would say "did you want us to do a press release about why jets were flying to russia?"

People can cry all day "he lied, bla bla bla"... so? Who fucking cares? It's like bitching at someone who is sticking up for you. The guy sticking up for you says "hey... i dont like what that guy is saying to you, so im going to go talk nicely to him" because he knows you dont like violence. Instead, he goes to the bully, and breaks his nose and kicks him in the groin. He took care of teh bully who was picking on you. And you are going to say the guy lied to you and bitch? get a clue.

(not a rant at anybody here in particular, just making a point)

 

[Zebo]

Osama is deader than door nail, if he isn't dead, why not a videotape in years? . Anyway, Osama was never the main problem in the first place but the attitudes, atmospherics, texts and tenets of Islam. Until that is addressed honestly the jihad movement lives on.

 

[dwell]

Obama must be right. He can do no wrong and probably walks on water. When Bush said the same thing he was just an idiot.