Bar81 needs to be dealt with.

[SickBeast]

Every time I have read one of this guy's posts they have been hostile and beligerant. I came across this thread in the video forum where he was flaming TheSnowman, one of the more knowledgeable AT members when it comes to video. These are the types of things he was saying:

You have no clue what you're talking about.

Get your facts straight before you spout your nonsense.

(Keep in mind that TheSnowman was correct on this issue the entire time)

Learn what outsourcing means. Try www.dictionary.com

Then he started going off on everyone else. Here is a sample:

Except I did get the proper resolution my little reading impaired retard.

Gee, I don't know, maybe give your mom a tissue when she realizes you're a stain on the underside of civilization.

I just can't believe it, the genius himself siding with the rest of the morons This is so inconceivable! The morons sticking together. I've got to say I'm absolutely shocked

You are *such* a moron.

Second of all, you incompetent insult to civilation, I MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT BFG THEMSELVES FROM TWO SEPERATE PEOPLE (a CSR and a Supervisor) INFORMED ME THAT THERE WAS A "LIMITATION" Why don't you go cry to BFG for putting out the misinformation my mentally stunted poster.

It's just amazing that your incompetence reaches such great heights and yet you fail to see it. The true mark of an unadulterated idiot.

You also need to get hooked on phonics. LEARN TO READ YOU IDIOT.

I give up, you're too stupid for words.

It's "you're" you illiterate idiot. I'm done, this is a waste of time.

OR, you're JUST TOO STUPID TO BE REASONED WITH

So that's one thread dealt with.

Here's another, unfortunately.

The only "joke" is your lack of intelligence and the display you put on trying to "display" it for everyone. As I said before, when it comes to mobile A64s *every* moronic statement you make is WRONG; in fact, pretty much EVERYTHING out of your mouth is idiotic so I don't want to short you on that.

Try learning the definition of range. www.dictionary.com you idiot, but then again you've already figured out you're a moron, you're just letting us all know.

you're EVEN DUMBER THAN I GAVE YOU CREDIT FOR.

Here's another thread, but this time he spread bogus information that probably caused dozens of people to cancel their orders for a graphics card. On top of that, the usual flamefest is present.

If need be I'll post some more; there's garbage like this littering our forums. It's not hard to find at all.

The bottom line is that this guy needs to be banned.

I've known him to be a troll for ages but I figured I would give it some time to see if the community could teach him some manners. As far as I'm concerned he's proven himself to be the most banworthy member I've ever seen at AnandTech.

 

[Keysplayr]

Despite efforts to make him realize he was behaving like a D'head, and I told him so, he still continues to abuse almost any thread he posts in as SickBeast has shown you. This guy needs either a ban or a really long vacation. It would be no loss to this forum if he was banned permanently. His lack of knowledge combined with his superiority complex can cost forum members a lot of money or lose out on something they should have done differently than what Bar81 spouted off to them.

So yes, I vote BAN. :thumbsdown:

Keysplayr2003

 

[ProviaFan]

YES :thumbsdown:

 

[zodder]

I have no idea who this is, but I'm all for a good banning.

 

[Creig]

I'll reiterate, we need a Manners Moderator or two for just such people. There is WAY too much personal flaming going on in the forums. Unless people start getting vacations or bans it will just keep escalating.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I had a run-in with him shortly after he joined. He has a serious chip on his shoulder, and a confrontational posting style including lots of ad hom attacks. He has contributed with the Mobile A64 thread though so a warning would do for starters. If it wasn't for the worthy contribution I'd be for the ban since he is too caustic and insulting for manys taste, and he has a habit of spreading FUD in such a way that it actually gets repeated till you correct those who bought in to it.

 

[Iron Woode]

Bar81 is abrasive and annoying. He is also reactionary and bullheaded. Like many other members of AT.

However, SickBeast, he was correct about the BFG video card issue. He wasn't the only one with issues about DVI. The other forums had similar complaints.

People got caught up in the 16x12 debate while his issue was widescreen 1280x768 support.

BFG acknowlegded the issues and dealt with them.

The older ET article did make it clear that Nvidia had/has issues with DVI support at high resolutions.

Maybe it is just best to ignore him, rather than engaging in a pointless fight?

Even I got flamed because I bought a PC 9600XT and posted the stock core and mem specs, which were higher than the OC'd 9600Pros. I was told the 9700Pro would eat my card for lunch. I didn't whine or complain, because I knew that already. I can't get a 9700Pro here anymore. I couldn't afford the 9800 series either. I am happy with my card and I don't care what others say about my card either.

That is the secret to getting along here. Be happy with what you have, upgrade when you need to, post issues that need to be posted and finally listen to others.

So lets all have a :beer: and relax and enjoy the summer in peace.

PS: if anything, there should be 1 official Doom3 thread instead of 20 in the VideoForum.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Bar81 is abrasive and annoying. He is also reactionary and bullheaded. Like many other members of AT.

I have yet to see another AT member with his level of beligerance in my four years of posting here.

However, SickBeast, he was correct about the BFG video card issue.

No he wasn't. The BFG 6800GT that he had is fully capable of 1600x1200 using DVI.

People got caught up in the 16x12 debate while his issue was widescreen 1280x768 support.

1280x768 is still an unknown (and may indeed be impossible), but as I said, 16x12 was possible all along. It's a good thing you brought up that thread though; it perfectly demonstrates this guy's character. Look at this:

Originally posted by: ss284

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: filmore crashcart

Ignoring the collection of idiots posting above

Excuse me?

That wasn't a blanket statement to all of the above posters, just the morons (who should but probably don't know who they are)

What you meant to say was: "I don't like to admit I'm wrong, therefore I will call everyone else who proves me wrong an idiot, even though I make blatently incorrect statements. But thats ok because if I call you all idiots, I wont have to respond and I can continue thinking that im always right and that everything I say is complete truth and not UTTER GARBAGE THAT I ENJOY MAKING UP BECAUSE WHATEVER I SAY IS ALWAYS ALWAYS RIGHT. If you say otherwise, you are a moron even though you present valid points of argument that should be followed by a rebuttal(but then I wouldnt have much to say because I'm actually wrong sometimes). But like I said before, when im wrong, you are a moron. I also block people when they continue to disagree with me because it hurts my e-penis."

Or this:

Originally posted by: Desmond

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: remagavon
All cards dont support widescreen resolution. Also, I seriously doubt this card doesn't support 1600x1200. I call shens, and will test this tomorrow. If you lied about this I hope you get banned.. why is there no credibile information regarding this anywhere?

Repeat I will be testing this tomorrow, I'm getting a BFG GT and I have a 2001fp stay tuned.

I hope you get banned for being an idiot. FOR THE LAST TIME, BFG themselves have confirmed the information I am listing.

I hope you get banned for being an idiot name caller. I have the card and it does work at 1600x1200 on my Dell 2001fp LCD.

Maybe it is just best to ignore him, rather than engaging in a pointless fight?

As others have said, his type of behavior needs to be dealt with. He is far too beligerant to be easily ignored.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I had a run-in with him shortly after he joined. He has a serious chip on his shoulder, and a confrontational posting style including lots of ad hom attacks. He has contributed with the Mobile A64 thread though so a warning would do for starters. If it wasn't for the worthy contribution I'd be for the ban since he is too caustic and insulting for manys taste, and he has a habit of spreading FUD in such a way that it actually gets repeated till you correct those who bought in to it.

Sticky thread or not, this guy needs to be banned. Just because someone does a good deed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be punished for doing something terrible. Are you saying that a single good post somehow outweighs his ~800 negative ones? On top of that, his sticky thread isn't even accurate as I have proven in the CPU forum.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I had a run-in with him shortly after he joined. He has a serious chip on his shoulder, and a confrontational posting style including lots of ad hom attacks. He has contributed with the Mobile A64 thread though so a warning would do for starters. If it wasn't for the worthy contribution I'd be for the ban since he is too caustic and insulting for manys taste, and he has a habit of spreading FUD in such a way that it actually gets repeated till you correct those who bought in to it.

Sticky thread or not, this guy needs to be banned. Just because someone does a good deed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be punished for doing something terrible. Are you saying that a single good post somehow outweighs his ~800 negative ones? On top of that, his sticky thread isn't even accurate as I have proven in the CPU forum.

Hey, who you schoolin' about punishment? Seriously though, he does attempt to provide helpful information in the mobile thread and occassionally in others, but he has no sticky I can see I also think that if this is his first run-in with the mods, "one strike and you're out" is way too harsh a punishment, and I'm all about punishment for the guilty It's not our decision obviously, and I agree he is a turd in the punch bowl who needs to have the law laid down for him, but banning him without so much as a warning is unfair and unwarranted IMHO.

 

[Iron Woode]

I understand what you're saying, but arguing with him just makes him get worse. Let the mods deal with him.

As for another member that is beligerant, I suggest looking at Red Dawn. and few others. Especailly in the P&N forum.

The 16x12 debate was a side issue and affected a small minority of users. It required some code changes to resolve it.

Just let the mods deal with him. This is the best advice. Although it would be more fun to engage him in the OT forum.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I had a run-in with him shortly after he joined. He has a serious chip on his shoulder, and a confrontational posting style including lots of ad hom attacks. He has contributed with the Mobile A64 thread though so a warning would do for starters. If it wasn't for the worthy contribution I'd be for the ban since he is too caustic and insulting for manys taste, and he has a habit of spreading FUD in such a way that it actually gets repeated till you correct those who bought in to it.

Sticky thread or not, this guy needs to be banned. Just because someone does a good deed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be punished for doing something terrible. Are you saying that a single good post somehow outweighs his ~800 negative ones? On top of that, his sticky thread isn't even accurate as I have proven in the CPU forum.

Hey, who you schoolin' about punishment? Seriously though, he does attempt to provide helpful information in the mobile thread and occassionally in others, but he has no sticky I can see I also think that if this is his first run-in with the mods, "one strike and you're out" is way too harsh a punishment, and I'm all about punishment for the guilty It's not our decision obviously, and I agree he is a turd in the punch bowl who needs to have the law laid down for him, but banning him without so much as a warning is unfair and unwarranted IMHO.

Fine, I trust your judgement on punishment.

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I had a run-in with him shortly after he joined. He has a serious chip on his shoulder, and a confrontational posting style including lots of ad hom attacks. He has contributed with the Mobile A64 thread though so a warning would do for starters. If it wasn't for the worthy contribution I'd be for the ban since he is too caustic and insulting for manys taste, and he has a habit of spreading FUD in such a way that it actually gets repeated till you correct those who bought in to it.

Sticky thread or not, this guy needs to be banned. Just because someone does a good deed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be punished for doing something terrible. Are you saying that a single good post somehow outweighs his ~800 negative ones? On top of that, his sticky thread isn't even accurate as I have proven in the CPU forum.

Hey, who you schoolin' about punishment? Seriously though, he does attempt to provide helpful information in the mobile thread and occassionally in others, but he has no sticky I can see I also think that if this is his first run-in with the mods, "one strike and you're out" is way too harsh a punishment, and I'm all about punishment for the guilty It's not our decision obviously, and I agree he is a turd in the punch bowl who needs to have the law laid down for him, but banning him without so much as a warning is unfair and unwarranted IMHO.

Fine, I trust your judgement on punishment.

And so do I. Good point made; one strike and you're out is fine for spammers and such but there are a TON of idiots on AT forums that spout off way too much. Doesn't mean they should be banned without some sort of "hey dude, you'd better cool it down a bit" kind of warning. If he (they) don't listen then they get the hook; simple as that. Who knows, maybe he has been warned?

 

[Amused]

SickBeast,

I gotta agree with you. After reading his posts I have come to the conclusion that he is, without a doubt, the rudest poster I have ever seen on AT.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Amused
SickBeast,

I gotta agree with you. After reading his posts I have come to the conclusion that he is, without a doubt, the rudest poster I have ever seen on AT.

Thank-you very much, Amused. It's nice to finally have some support on this again.

Mods, this guy has over 22,000 posts and he thinks Bar81 is the rudest poster he's ever seen. I have over 4,000 posts and I agree with him completely. Does that not warrant some kind of action?

I can honestly see this guy flying off the handle at someone beyond anything we've ever seen. While this may be entertaining for some, I really don't think it's in the best interest of this forum.

 

[olds]

Just to get things interesting, I sent him a link to this thread.

 

[Bar81]

Grow up.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Grow up.

Perhaps heeding your own advice would be useful in some circumstances. We're all wrong at times. Learning to gracefully admit it and move on is an important life skill that we all must learn sooner or later (hopefully the former).

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Grow up.

Such a scathing response!. I stand chastised.

:roll:

 

[Trey22]

I'm convinced... BAN!

 

[KarenMarie]

I don't know him, but he really should take a manners lesson.

 

[ectx]

Originally posted by: jliechty

Originally posted by: Bar81
Grow up.

Perhaps heeding your own advice would be useful in some circumstances. We're all wrong at times. Learning to gracefully admit it and move on is an important life skill that we all must learn sooner or later (hopefully the former).

Could have said better.

 

[Johnbear007]

You know, I dont disagree with this, however there are ALOT of people around here that have really bad manners. DefRef, SgtZulu,User1234

SgtZulu is just plain cruel. Whenever anyone disagrees with DefRef he flies off the handle and just starts insulting people and calling them ignorant children, and user124 is just plain confrontational. They are both big fans of unjustified Ad Hom attacks. These are my personal few, but many of you may not have seen them act this way, just as I haven't witnessed this guy. My point is, it happens constantly.

But you know what? These people never seem to be dealt with. I'm sure there are others that everyone could site, and I would love a 'politeness' moderater. However I REALLY doubt this is going to happen.

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Amused
SickBeast,

I gotta agree with you. After reading his posts I have come to the conclusion that he is, without a doubt, the rudest poster I have ever seen on AT.

Thank-you very much, Amused. It's nice to finally have some support on this again.

Mods, this guy has over 22,000 posts and he thinks Bar81 is the rudest poster he's ever seen. I have over 4,000 posts and I agree with him completely. Does that not warrant some kind of action?

I can honestly see this guy flying off the handle at someone beyond anything we've ever seen. While this may be entertaining for some, I really don't think it's in the best interest of this forum.

I don't think we can really base it on post count. "I have more posts then you so I am right" Personally I don't think post count means jack, other than that you post alot. Some people post alot of helpful stuff, but there are alot of people I see with high post counts that got them by flaming. I've seen Bar81 be minorly annoying a few times, but nearly as much as the other few i've mentioned. All i'm saying is that in my opinion these guys are everywhere, Bar81 is not an anomaly, and getting rid of him alone isn't going to change the fact that these boards have a really terrible culture of 'flaming'.

The number of confrontational, stubborn, and self-righteous members is staggering to me. So, rather than just ban one guy I would really prefer that rules concerning behavior start to be enforced, because honestly I think these boards are becoming rather unpleasant. Sure, not everyone is as downright nasty as Bar81 or SgtZulu, but I can't think of the last time I went into a thread and did not see at least one comment by someone that was a flame. Constant posts by rude repost police, and the non stop argumentative nature of those that can't abide anyone that has a different opinion than they do are ruining these boards as they become more popular.

I've been reading the boards for a long time. Far before I registered and started posting. It used to be that people were pleasnt and helpful, now anytime a noob asks a question, there is always at least one person who has to flame them, rudely tell them to search, or just do the good old REPOST. I wish these people would either pass the thread up and let it fall to the bottom, or instead of taking the time to be mean, take the time to be nice and answer the question. Pretty much every forum I read regularly (hotdeals,video,general hardware) as well as many of those I check once in awhile all seem to be a constant flame fest in every thread. This problem is not going to go away by banning Bar81 alone.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Johnbear007
You know, I dont disagree with this, however there are ALOT of people around here that have really bad manners. DefRef, SgtZulu,User1234

SgtZulu is just plain cruel. Whenever anyone disagrees with DefRef he flies off the handle and just starts insulting people and calling them ignorant children, and user124 is just plain confrontational. They are both big fans of unjustified Ad Hom attacks. These are my personal few, but many of you may not have seen them act this way, just as I haven't witnessed this guy. My point is, it happens constantly.

But you know what? These people never seem to be dealt with. I'm sure there are others that everyone could site, and I would love a 'politeness' moderater. However I REALLY doubt this is going to happen.

I think I saw that SgtZulu was banned, and there was some indication that (I think) User1234 might be SgtZulu returning. (Mods: was that ever confirmed?)

I admit, I was actually surprised to hear that he was banned, I always took his utterly-sarcastic deprecating remarks in a sort of "extreme irony" humor sort of way. Then again, I tend to have a somewhat sarcastic sense of humor myself (that one other poster claimed that he couldn't stand about me), and in other cases, I actually agreed with some of SgtZulu's "thread craps", in a factual way, although not in the way that they were stated.

(In other words, I always sort of saw his posts in a way akin to that movie, 'Grumpy Old Men'. If someone actually took his posts seriously, then I guess I could see why he was banned.)

Not to mention some other people that I've had some minor issues with on these boards, that seem to devolve immediately to ad-hominim attacks.

I try to stick to the facts though, and inject some humor (sarcastic though it may be), and not stoop to their level. I apologize in advance for sometimes being argumentative about my opinions, but I don't think that should really even be an issue. If my netequette needs honing, please let me know people, thanks.