BANNING religious deals in the hotdeals forum?!?...UPDATE: BAN HAS BEEN LIFTED

FrugalGuy

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UPDATE ban has been lifted...see here for new posting new rules

This message was posted by the moderator


<< Every thread about free bibles and other religious items turns into a religion bashing flame fest. We really do not want to ban all the rude little children who can't control themselves, so for now, NO MORE DEALS FOR RELIGIOUS ITEMS. We will consider reversing this ruling, later.

If you want to engage in religious free-for-alls, take it to our Off Topic forum. But be warned, if you get too rude to other members, you could still find yourself an unwilling lurker, instead of member in good standing.

AnandTech Moderator
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Sigh...I really feel that this is unfair to those who are interested in books or merchandise related to religions. This ban was due to thread crapping by people who insisted on writing inappropriate comments relating to the relgion (rather than the deal) in the deals forum (See examples 1, 2, 3)

As a result, all the religious deals have been locked. I feel this is ban is a censorship and I truly hope the moderators will reconsider it. I think a warning to threadcrappers on religious material is more appropriate than an out right ban on all religious deals.

This is not up for discussion, bring it up again, and you will earn a hot deal on a one way ticket out of here.

Watchful Mod

 

b0mbrman

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I don't know...it's their forum. Let them do as they like with it. They're providing a free service that we're not forced to use and we can leave whenever we want...

Of course, if you're a subscriber, that opens up a new can of worms...
 

Orsorum

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It's probably a smart thing to do until the idiots get it through their heads that they're wasting space and everyone's time... and making themselves look stupid. (the flamers, that is)
 

datalink7

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It is there forum, so they can do what they want. But I do think they should reconsider and just give out vacations to those who bash religion in the Hot Deals forum. If you want to bash religion, come to Off Topic.
 

db

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Practically speaking, why waste bandwidth on a thread that is almost nothing but contentious. It then really does belong in OT.
Also, this is not your local city public park, so the issue of censorship is moot.
 

cmdavid

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<< This message was posted by the moderator


<< Every thread about free bibles and other religious items turns into a religion bashing flame fest. We really do not want to ban all the rude little children who can't control themselves, so for now, NO MORE DEALS FOR RELIGIOUS ITEMS. We will consider reversing this ruling, later.

If you want to engage in religious free-for-alls, take it to our Off Topic forum. But be warned, if you get too rude to other members, you could still find yourself an unwilling lurker, instead of member in good standing.

AnandTech Moderator
>>



Sigh...I really feel that this is unfair to those who are interested in books or merchandise related to religions. This ban was due to thread crapping by people who insisted on writing inappropriate comments relating to the relgion (rather than the deal) in the deals forum (See example here.) As a result, all the religious deals have been locked. I feel this is ban is a censorship and I truly hope the moderators will reconsider it. I think a warning to threadcrappers on religious material is more appropriate than an out right ban on all religious deals.
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Wow, I havent been over to hotdeals for awhile but I do know that anything that has to do w/ religion always gets ugly. Not the deal, but just the people who wanna bash on religion manage to find their ways into those threads. Sad indeed that the mods had to resort to banning all deals that deal w/ religious items instead of banning the people who are actually breaking the rules (thread crapping). Hopefully something will be done about this. Oh, btw, thanks for the Billy Graham book, it came in and its pretty neat.
 

HyTekJosh

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Those who thread crap and diss other people / religions are immature little pricks. Also, the moderators here can be a bit hasty at times. Just remember not to take your Freedom of Speech to extremes; act mature, cool and considerate!
 

Russ

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You can thank the atheist bigots who cannot pass up any opportunity to attack anyone and anything that even hints at Christianity.

Russ, NCNE
 

db

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Let me put it this way: there's a place for everything. If there's nothing but fighting going on instead constructive Hot Deals, then the thread doesn't belong there.
Besides, you can reach more people on OT.
 

Geekbabe

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I think the mods here have a huge job to do and think peeps ought to just be grateful we even have a hot deals forum , coupon/deals boards are not easy to run !
 

AnandTech Moderator

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As our post says, we will consider unbanning these threads, later. For now, we want to give this matter some time and space for the energy to calm down.

You can be as right as rain in principle, but we have to deal with the problems as they happen. Until things calm down, those who honestly want to post such deals don't stand a chance of having a good thread. Hopefully, when this is over, they will be able to post without the rudeness and abuse being heaped upon them.

Meanwhile, our mods are still volunteers on our ever growing forums, and we just don't have time to keep on top of that much hostility on a minute to minute basis.

We are sorry this step was necessary. We don't like it, either. :(

AnandTech Moderator
 

Mustanggt

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>>I don't know...it's their forum. Let them do as they like with it.> I allways thought they were our forums, If it was not for all of us there would be no forum.
 

bcterps

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It pisses me off, I dont know who to be more mad at, the Mods for basically siding with the thread crappers, or the thread crappers themselves. I think that banning a bunch of the thread crappers would send a clear message, or just putting a sticky at the top of the forum saying, no thread crapping on religious hot deals, would work just fine.

Instead, the thread crappers win, no more hot deals on religious products. Shows that if you get enough people to crap on a thread, they'll ban that type of thread instead of banning the thread crappers. Good job Mods.
rolleye.gif


--Ben
 

pulse8

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<< >>I don't know...it's their forum. Let them do as they like with it.> I allways thought they were our forums, If it was not for all of us there would be no forum. >>

You're sadly mistaken. If it weren't for them in the first place we would have no forum. We populate it, but they control it and keep it going for us FOR FREE.
 

AreaCode707

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I think the mods have a good take on it, because they're being both reasonable and practical. Meanwhile, maybe link your sig to what you want to offer.
 

poopaskoopa

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<< I think the mods have a good take on it, because they're being both reasonable and practical. >>



&

I blame the thread crappers. Not the mods.
 

JupiterJones

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As our post says, we will consider unbanning these threads, later. For now, we want to give this matter some time and space for the energy to calm down. You can be as right as rain in principle, but we have to deal with the problems as they happen. Until things calm down, those who honestly want to post such deals don't stand a chance of having a good thread. Hopefully, when this is over, they will be able to post without the rudeness and abuse being heaped upon them. Meanwhile, our mods are still volunteers on our ever growing forums, and we just don't have time to keep on top of that much hostility on a minute to minute basis. We are sorry this step was necessary. We don't like it, either.

This mentality is detrimental to all.

Your actions negatively effect the people who did nothing wrong, while giving the people who were wrong a victory. It is certainly more effort to ban the troublemakers, but their intolerance is not going to go away. The path you have chosen will only lead to a permanent ban on religious deals.

Cry babies don't stop crying because they get their way.
 

poopaskoopa

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If I said that at work, that'd sound like I'm volunteering for a job. A thankless one at that.
 

Geekbabe

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you know ,people complain when the mods here just lockdown a thread without much explaination.Now here's a situation where the mods took the trouble to post here explaining their actions and stating that they do intend to somehow rememdy this issue... and people are still complaining !!
Geez, give them a break.
 

Keego

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this belongs in the forum issues section, not off topic :disgust:
 

Netopia

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I obviously don't like the situation at hand, but why don't we all take a deep breath and wait a bit. I've had my share of wrestling with mod's when I thought that they were making a bad decision in the past, but I don't think that in this situation a cooling down period would be a bad idea.

Of note... the mod's have NOT said that no further deals of this kind will EVER be allowed, but only disallowed for the moment. Make a mental decision, as I have, to view this as no different than a riot.... for a time, there is martial law and curfews for both sides, even if one side was right and one was wrong, not to punish anyone but to restore order.

If things are still like this a week from now, I'll be more vociferous than the lot of you put together... but for now, I suggest that we exercise the fruit of the Spirit known as patience.

Peace,

Joe
 

IGBT

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There's got to be some place where ritualistic paraphernalia can be glorified...somebody help these guy's...will ya?? ;)
 

Lucky

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<< >>I don't know...it's their forum. Let them do as they like with it.> I allways thought they were our forums, If it was not for all of us there would be no forum. >>

You're sadly mistaken. If it weren't for them in the first place we would have no forum. We populate it, but they control it and keep it going for us FOR FREE.
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what are you, stupid? You think your 6000 posts and probably hundreds of thousands of page views alone cost nothing in bandwidth? Not to mention server costs, software costs, payroll, etc?