bang for the buck camera recommendation?

taltamir

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I need an inexpensive digital camera that gives good "bang per buck" so to speak. I Don't know ANYTHING about cameras, especially digital (well, I exaggerate, I know what a pixel is... and have very advanced knowledge of computer hardware and physics... but not camera tech).

I would like to buy it ASAP to start putting some of my older hardware on ebay before it is completely obsolete (i got 5 HDD that are 500GB or more, I got a raptor 74GB, I got an E8400 and an AMD X2 3800+ just sitting around... motherboards, power supplies, etc... some have been sitting on the FLOOR for years now... yea the floor, i have no more room on the shelf so it is on the floor).

This is really an investment for me, the only thing I am gonna do with the camera is sell stuff on ebay.. (Well that is the only PLAN, I might end up using it once I have it... for example, I never thought I would actually NEED a CD and later a DVD burner... but once I got one I ended up burning hundreds of disks)
 

996GT2

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The 8 megapixel Panasonic Lumix LZ8 is a great choice for $99 on sale at J&R. It offers nice image quality with a TON of great features, like optical image stabilization, 5x optical zoom, 32mm wide angle, full manual mode, etc. It also runs on AA batteries so you can just grab a set of $5 eneloop rechargeables off of Amazon and be good for 500 charge cycles. You also don't have to wait for it to charge if you want to get some pictures in a hurry...just pop in some Energizers and you are good to go.

It's THE camera I recommend if you are on a budget.

Get it here for $99 while the sale lasts
 

996GT2

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Panasonic has recently released the Lumix DMC-LZ8. This is a compact digital camera that features an 8-megapixel imaging sensor, 5x Leica optical zoom lens, Optical Image Stabilization (O.I.S.), full manual settings and an automatic shooting mode that takes all the worry out of taking a picture. All this is crammed into a compact, stylish case that is available in several colors.

For 2008, Panasonic has added a new exposure mode to many of the offerings, Intelligent Auto (iA) mode. When using it, the camera will automatically select the correct scene mode for the current shooting situation. It does a good job at recognizing faces, lighting and distance allowing it to pick even one of the advanced scene modes. Next the camera will pick the correct ISO setting (you do have the ability to set the max ISO). Combining Auto ISO with the Mega O.I.S. system, the camera does an excellent job of reducing camera shake and blur. The final automatic option is the Face Detection, allowing the camera to correctly focus and adjust for the faces in the image and not the surroundings.

The LZ8 has been designed very well and is comfortable to hold/operate with your right or both hands. The zoom control around the shutter release makes zooming a breeze without taking your eye off the subject. The mode dial on top makes it easy to select your shooting mode, and the shortcut buttons and quick menu make changing all of the shooting settings quick and easy. The camera also features a 2.5" intelligent LCD screen. The screen will automatically adjust itself based on the amount of ambient light around it to assure you that you can always see it clearly. There is also a "high angle" setting that makes it easy to see off to the side or above and below.

Performance from the LZ8 was ok. It took 3.4 seconds for the camera to be able to capture its first image after being turned on. The shutter delay, averaged 1/10 of a second when prefocused, but took 8/10 of a second when allowing the camera to focus. The shot to shot delay was ok at just under 1.5 seconds per shot without the flash and very slow when using the flash at around 3 - 4 seconds per shot (mainly due to the camera using AA type batteries). The camera also offers two burst modes, which performed very well. In regular burst mode, the camera captures 4 images in just 1.3 seconds. Then there is continuous burst mode which captured 8-megapixel images at just over 2fps for a full ten seconds without slowing down. All of our tests were completed using an ATP Pro Max 4GB SDHC memory card, program shooting mode, ISO auto, flash off and all other settings on the factory defaults unless otherwise noted. Times may vary depending on lighting conditions, camera settings, media, etc.

Image quality when using 8M Fine mode was average when compared to similar models in this class. When shooting outdoors, the camera produced crisp, clear images with good exposures and colors. The Leica 5x optical zoom lens has a 35mm equivalent of 32-160mm, giving you an excellent wide angle end as well as a good telephoto coverage. The extra wide 32mm end is great for shooting large group photos and landscape photography, while the telephoto end gives you the ability to single out a person in a group for a close-up portrait or the ability to single out an object that is a little ways off in the distance. We found a moderate amount of barrel distortion at the wide angle extreme as well as a bit of edge softness. I also saw a few instances of purple fringing (aka chromatic aberrations) in areas of high contrast.

When using the LZ8 in portrait mode, it quickly finds and locks on to faces. The exposure and skin tones came out nice as long as you stayed within the flash range. One thing to watch on this camera is the Intelligent ISO and the minimum shutter speed can be adjusted, and if they are set too high, you will end up with some dark pictures. The listed flash range is 1.97 - 20.7' at ISO auto depending on the zoom position. When I was shooting anything over 10', no matter if it was wide or telephoto, the subject was dark. The best shots I captured were mid-telephoto from 6 to 8 feet away (ISO auto).

Like the FS3, the LZ8 can capture video in a variety or resolutions. You can choose from two aspect rations, standard 4:3 or a wide HD 16:9 format. This means you can record movies at 640x480, 320x240 or 848x480, with frame rates of 10 or 30fps. We found video quality was good. Our samples ran smoothly and there is very little visible compresion artifacts when shooting in good ambient lighting. However, there was some noticeable noise in the darker settings. The built-in mic did pick up a little noise from the wind outside, but overall the video is good.

Powering the LZ8 are 2 standard AA size batteries. The camera will operate on alkaline, NiMH or oxyride batteries. You do have to be careful though, as the camera has different settings for the different types of batteries. You need to select which type of batteries you are using via the menu system. If you are using alkaline or NiMH the camera will show the battery onscreen in white, if you are using oxyride, it will be show up in blue. We recommend using NiMH batteries (will net you about 470 pictures) as they will last approx. 3 times longer than alkaline (180 pictures), according to Panasonic.

Bottom Line - Panasonic's Lumix DMC-LZ8 is a compact 8-megapixel camera that will suit the needs of anyone in the family. The Intelligent Auto mode makes it easy for anyone to take excellent pictures and the full manual mode gives freedom to the more experienced photographer. Although the shooting performance was a little slow, the quality of the images is good and the camera is loaded with useful features to assist you in your picture taking fun. If the slower performance does not bother you, the DMC-LZ8 is a great deal at about US$180 or less.

This is the only page that you need to read...except, for the last sentence, keep in mind that it's $99 and not $180.
 

apoppin

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if it is just for selling HW on ebay, *any* cheap 3.2 MP digi-cam is fine :p

i needed a camera in an emergency .. my Canon died and i ended up picking up a Kodak z712 is .. for $125 .. just for its 12x Optical zoom
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taltamir

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thank you for the info everyone, I ordered LZ8, very nice discount on B&J.

What's inexpensive to you?
I was leery of giving a price I WANT because I know from my experience recommending video cards, cpus, and other system components that people not aware of the market (me) have no clue what is a reasonable price and what are reasonable features with today's technology. They tend to either ask for too much for nothing (I want a video card that can max out crysis for under 50$), or suggest paying way too much for nothing. (I want the best 600$ video card on the market, I need a serious upgrade from my SLI of 8800 Ultras; asked when the 9800GTX just came out and was the fastest card on the market)... both examples, btw, are REAL :). And lets not even start with people who ask for a specific brand or technology.

I was HOPING and guessing that it a reasonable choice would be in the 100$ range :), and turns out it was.
 

thegisguy

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I wasn't trying to be rude, and I hope I didn't offend you. It's just I'm looking for a "Best Bang for My Buck" camera too, but I'm looking DSLR around $600. Best bang for the buck is a fluid thing.

You mentioned photo's for Ebay, but wasn't sure if that was the only thing you needed it for.

Glad you found what you needed.

Originally posted by: taltamir
thank you for the info everyone, I ordered LZ8, very nice discount on B&J.

What's inexpensive to you?
I was leery of giving a price I WANT because I know from my experience recommending video cards, cpus, and other system components that people not aware of the market (me) have no clue what is a reasonable price and what are reasonable features with today's technology. They tend to either ask for too much for nothing (I want a video card that can max out crysis for under 50$), or suggest paying way too much for nothing. (I want the best 600$ video card on the market, I need a serious upgrade from my SLI of 8800 Ultras)... both examples, btw, are REAL :).

I was HOPING and guessing that it a reasonable choice would be in the 100$ range :), and turns out it was.

 

taltamir

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Oh I didn't think you were rude at all, and I was not offended... if anything I was amused... here lemme help you have a laugh too...

If I was to phrase a request with my EXTREMELY limited knowledge it would probably be "I want a camera in the 30-50$ range that is Full Frame DSLR with at least 10 megapixels, good automation, lots of format support, firefire and USB plugs, and HD 1080p video capability, in x264 format, but MPEG4 will do"...

I bet you most of those things don't exist, are obsolete, or are only found in extremely expensive (4 digits and up) cameras...

I want a flying car too, but walking into a car dealership and asking for one (and then telling them how much -I- want to pay for it) would be silly :), so I just asked in general "what is a good buy" and let people fill me in. Now I know (a little) more about the price ranges and models. And I got me a highly recommended camera... I will not be coming to complain if I have issues with it, because I understand that all technology has issues, I am getting a good deal and a good camera with today's tech, that is the important bit.

Asking someone "How much are you willing to spend" is always a good tactic though, it was very sound of you to ask me that, it is just that I didn't know enough to give THAT sort of ballpark...
 

alexruiz

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Originally posted by: apoppin
if it is just for selling HW on ebay, *any* cheap 3.2 MP digi-cam is fine :p

i needed a camera in an emergency .. my Canon died and i ended up picking up a Kodak z712 is .. for $125 .. just for its 12x Optical zoom
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The Z712 IS is a very good camera. The only gripes I had about it was were the bulky size and the high performance ISO. However, the high performance ISO weakness was offset by the strong flash. Outdoors, it could produce stuning images.
 

DrPizza

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Nice recommendation, 996GT2

Taltamir, may I also suggest scoping out the FS/T section here since most of what you're looking to sell is computer hardware.
 

taltamir

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thanks for the suggestion. BTW, I bought the camera already and I am very happy with it.