Ban Advertising of Junk Food to Children?

[CWRMadcat]

I was watching the Peter Jennings special "How to Get Fat without really trying", and a focus of the entire program was that advertisements of obviously unhealthy foods should be banned from children.

Thoughts?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Yeah I have a thought. "Give me a break!

"

Edit - here's another - "The TV made me do it

"

CkG

 

[DealMonkey]

Fat: it's the new smoking.

 

[CWRMadcat]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Fat: it's the new smoking.

That's interesting DealMonkey. Did you watch the program too? Because thats the relationship they put together. Fat = Smoking.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: CWRMadcat

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Fat: it's the new smoking.

That's interesting DealMonkey. Did you watch the program too? Because thats the relationship they put together. Fat = Smoking.

Rush has been saying this for quite a while on his program.

:Q DM and Rush agree!? Surely the world is at it's end

CkG

 

[sandorski]

All advertising directed at children should be banned. Personally I wouldn't miss advertising at all, but I can discern reality from fantasy unlike children.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: sandorski
All advertising directed at children should be banned. Personally I wouldn't miss advertising at all, but I can discern reality from fantasy unlike children.

ditto

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: sandorski
All advertising directed at children should be banned. Personally I wouldn't miss advertising at all, but I can discern reality from fantasy unlike children.

I agree. When it comes to health, marketing to children should be SERIOUSLY scrutinized if not banned completely. However, the libertarian inside me says it is the parent's fault for letting THEIR children eat what they want.

I was thinking about this earlier. What ever happened to snack time? I can remember (and I'm only 24) when I wasn't allowed to eat except during meals and snack time, any other time, snack food and pretty much all food in general was off limits.

This brings me back to 'why should the gov't of a supposedly free society be concerned with this?'. I don't know. This is such a micro issue that has been blown out of proportion because of a trend, that being that the majority of kids are fat.

Trends... The modern way for government to grow in size and scope.

Bring on those bans of marketing!

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: sandorski
All advertising directed at children should be banned. Personally I wouldn't miss advertising at all, but I can discern reality from fantasy unlike children.

I agree. When it comes to health, marketing to children should be SERIOUSLY scrutinized if not banned completely. However, the libertarian inside me says it is the parent's fault for letting THEIR children eat what they want.

I was thinking about this earlier. What ever happened to snack time? I can remember (and I'm only 24) when I wasn't allowed to eat except during meals and snack time, any other time, snack food and pretty much all food in general was off limits.

This brings me back to 'why should the gov't of a supposedly free society be concerned with this?'. I don't know. This is such a micro issue that has been blown out of proportion because of a trend, that being that the majority of kids are fat.

Trends... The modern way for government to grow in size and scope.

Bring on those bans of marketing!

I agree on the responsibility of parents, but I think when the Media is pumped into each home, the Media also bears responsibility.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: CWRMadcat
I was watching the Peter Jennings special "How to Get Fat without really trying", and a focus of the entire program was that advertisements of obviously unhealthy foods should be banned from children.

Thoughts?

Why not Ban parents from giving their kids the crap to eat instead. Sick of all this blame everyone else crap.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: sandorski
All advertising directed at children should be banned. Personally I wouldn't miss advertising at all, but I can discern reality from fantasy unlike children.

I agree. When it comes to health, marketing to children should be SERIOUSLY scrutinized if not banned completely. However, the libertarian inside me says it is the parent's fault for letting THEIR children eat what they want.

I was thinking about this earlier. What ever happened to snack time? I can remember (and I'm only 24) when I wasn't allowed to eat except during meals and snack time, any other time, snack food and pretty much all food in general was off limits.

This brings me back to 'why should the gov't of a supposedly free society be concerned with this?'. I don't know. This is such a micro issue that has been blown out of proportion because of a trend, that being that the majority of kids are fat.

Trends... The modern way for government to grow in size and scope.

Bring on those bans of marketing!

I agree on the responsibility of parents, but I think when the Media is pumped into each home, the Media also bears responsibility.

I disagree 100%. The only people who bear responsibility of what children watch is their parents.

 

[djNickb]

Eh, why not seems like we pass so many laws to protect the ignorant and stupid, why not another..............

 

[Miramonti]

I would agree with a ban like this.

An arguement waiting to happen would be less advertising revenues means less kids shows available on tv. But since most are crap anyways, good!

 

[alchemize]

The government bears some complicity (not responsibility) in this, since the government is helping the farmers produce all the processed grains and sugar to create the junkfood (read: subsidies and farm loans).

But it all comes down to the parents, ultimately. I just wish the govt would subsidize organic farming as much as they do all the GMO/pesticide/herbicide/mass farming crap.

 

[0roo0roo]

while ur at it, ban advertising for tv, movies, music, video games u kiddies should be reading

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: alchemize
The government bears some complicity (not responsibility) in this, since the government is helping the farmers produce all the processed grains and sugar to create the junkfood (read: subsidies and farm loans).

But it all comes down to the parents, ultimately. I just wish the govt would subsidize organic farming as much as they do all the GMO/pesticide/herbicide/mass farming crap.

Yep, have the Government stop subsidizing High Corn Fructose Syrup and watch all the crap go away.

Edit: Yes I watched it. Tobacco fields replaced with Corn fields and the Farmers still paid for it all by the tax payers.

 

[KGB1]

There's nothing particulary wrong with eating junk food. Eating snacks or little sweet treats are a reward to oneself. Manufacturer's should use 'better' ingredients to make the products. Phosphates, preservatives, high fructose corn syrup(substitute for sugar), nitrates, all have been embraced by the food producers (Nabisco, Keebler, P&G, GMills, etc..) It is also cost effective to manufacture them chemically, using the appropriate elements that they are derived from. Natural food that's artificially made. Sounded great to chemists and scientists, after FDA tests that prove there is no difference or side affects; companies all used it in their products.

Try and buy 'snack' food that's organic or health conscience. It's EXPENSIVE as hell.. $1.25 for a 130g of real corn chips, or rice crisps. Artificially made 'junk' food is exteremly cheaper (not necessarilly better tasting) and widely available and promoted.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: KGB
There's nothing particulary wrong with eating junk food. Eating snacks or little sweet treats are a reward to oneself. Manufacturer's should use 'better' ingredients to make the products. Phosphates, preservatives, high fructose corn syrup(substitute for sugar), nitrates, all have been embraced by the food producers (Nabisco, Keebler, P&G, GMills, etc..) It is also cost effective to manufacture them chemically, using the appropriate elements that they are derived from. Natural food that's artificially made. Sounded great to chemists and scientists, after FDA tests that prove there is no difference or side affects; companies all used it in their products.

Try and buy 'snack' food that's organic or health conscience. It's EXPENSIVE as hell.. $1.25 for a 130g of real corn chips, or rice crisps. Artificially made 'junk' food is exteremly cheaper (not necessarilly better tasting) and widely available and promoted.

Thank you for providing such an excellent example of the Litmus Test for the average american consumer

 

[magomago]

I would also want to say that its the parent's choice to moniter what their kids watch...

But think about it- even if these were very good parents you think it wouldn't seem anal to turn the channel each time "Recess" goes to a commercial break. Or even better, I knew many kids whose parents would sleep in an extra how or on Saturdays so the kids would wake up- put on their favorite show and munch on Fruit Loops.

Basically I think its the parents job, but the media is so huge is HARD to avoid adervistements (hence why I haven't had cable since 1998 and haven't been watching TV since around 2000) or moniter them for your kids.


But I think its stupid playing this whole "blame game". In the end though, it really is the parents fault but these days its getting harder and harder to moniter one's children...especially in our fast paced society

 

[DealMonkey]

All it takes is a little common sense on the part of the parents. Only let the kids eat healthy snacks (at least when they're at home). Baked Doritos are a good alternative to regular chips. Fruit snacks, yogurt covered raisins, pretzels, etc. Make those little bastards go outside and play. It's all up to the parents IMO.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
All it takes is a little common sense on the part of the parents. Only let the kids eat healthy snacks (at least when they're at home). Baked Doritos are a good alternative to regular chips. Fruit snacks, yogurt covered raisins, pretzels, etc. Make those little bastards go outside and play. It's all up to the parents IMO.

Yes sir, my son's diet consists of what I buy at the grocery store so regardless of what they advertise to him, it's my wallet that controls his eating habits. While I do occassionally allow him empty calories and absolute junk E.G. candy cane, little debbie snack cake, M&Ms, I predominantly make his wanting a sweet snack a trade-off. He likes sweet stuff so I will give him gogurt, ovaltine, and sweet cereal, but he also gets fresh, homemade smoothies made with OJ, bananas, mango, and pineapple, and honey, is given raisins, grapes, and bananas for snacks quite often, and has been taught to like veggies, and actually loves spinach (thanks popeye! ), carrots, and green beans.

BTW, I believe our childrens' eating habits are a direct reflection of our own, and that the obesity problem that children face is often just the collateral damage of their parents obesity problem, which is often due to unhealthy diets, consuming mass quantities/gluttony, and a sedentary lifestyle as oppossed to primarily being due to genetics that defy their efforts to control their weight, though I acknowledge the research that indicates genetics play a part in a significant number of people with weight issues.

Do not want a obese child? get off your ass and teach them to be physically active *monkey see, monkey do*, stop hitting up fast food, stop caving into the "I want!" pleas, and stop rationalizing or ignoring you and/or your children's weight problems. To my mind at least, the vast majority of children do not have access to the necessary funds required to support their being junk food junkies, therfore either they are eating the same junk their parents bought for themselves or their parents indulge their junk food habits which makes them the Dealer :disgust:

I certainly do not support goverment intervention, the whole "it takes a village to raise a child" philosophy seems a bit of a cop out IMHO. Personal accountability seems to be going the way of the Dodo, and the state of learned helplessness that our society is suffering from, that results in a willingness to except goverment intervention in what is a very basic parental responsibility, is lamentable and deeply disturbing.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I certainly do not support goverment intervention, the whole "it takes a village to raise a child" philosophy seems a bit of a cop out IMHO. Personal accountability seems to be going the way of the Dodo, and the state of learned helplessness that our society is suffering from, that results in a willingness to except goverment intervention in what is a very basic parental responsibility, is lamentable and deeply disturbing.

I wouldn't add a thing to that. Well said :beer::beer: (<--Grapefruit juice)

CkG

 

[sandorski]

Parents are too busy improving "efficiency" to be the parents of days gone by. Women used to stay at home 24/7(except for shopping or some other occassional thing), these days they work as hard as men. The TV, Radio, and Internet are now part of Family life and are encouraged by society at large. In short, the influence a Parent(s) have has been systematically diminished not just by the Media, but also Employers. To, IMO, just blame the Parent(s) is to ignore the contemporary reality, the Family includes the TV, Radio, and other forms of Media. As such, they bear a responsibilty towards what messages/examples(which have been beyond poor) they set for Children. While we argue who is responsible, the Media continues to promote Junk for Food, crappy Products, materialism, and emotional blackmail for the sake of a quick buck. If the Media wants into people's homes, they should have a standard and a Responsibilty for what they pump into those homes.

 

[sandorski]

Speaking of advertising though(veering off course a little), I friggin couldn't believe what happened today. My computer speakers are on the fritz, so to wake up I turn on the TV then select MuchMusic, for some tunes. Well, they were doing one of those Anthology/Biography things so I changed over to the Local TV Listings channel, because they play a Classic Rock Radio Station in the background. All's well a song is playing, the song ends and an ad begins. Then another one, then another one, after 3-4 minutes of solid ads("I'm Lovin it", Lotto, other crap), a voice comes on doing the Stations call sign...yaddayadddaya "Classic Rock!"..yaddayaddaya..then the Mother of all comments, "You are just 60 seconds from another Classic Hit on...yaddayaddaya". WTF?! How do people put up with this shat?

sorry for the mini-Rant, I feel better now though.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Parents are too busy improving "efficiency" to be the parents of days gone by. Women used to stay at home 24/7(except for shopping or some other occassional thing), these days they work as hard as men. The TV, Radio, and Internet are now part of Family life and are encouraged by society at large. In short, the influence a Parent(s) have has been systematically diminished not just by the Media, but also Employers. To, IMO, just blame the Parent(s) is to ignore the contemporary reality, the Family includes the TV, Radio, and other forms of Media. As such, they bear a responsibilty towards what messages/examples(which have been beyond poor) they set for Children. While we argue who is responsible, the Media continues to promote Junk for Food, crappy Products, materialism, and emotional blackmail for the sake of a quick buck. If the Media wants into people's homes, they should have a standard and a Responsibilty for what they pump into those homes.

I knew we'd eventually get a liberal viewpoint in here to blame the Media and Corporations! Thanks Sandorski for not letting me down!

Why do women work as hard as men? Women's lib and greed. Gotta have that new house and SUV! The source of the greed? Why it's the media's fault! The media can't possibly be a reflection of our society can it...

So what we need are "standards" huh? I guess the government should be the one dictating and implementing them right?

The parents are solely responsible for a child's behavior inside their house. They buy the groceries, they buy the television, they set the standards. I guess that conservative viewpoint really rubs against your victim mentality.


PS I get sarcastic, but I'm not really against things like banning soda from schools (they are publicly administered) and serving healthy lunches.