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Bailout failure orchestrated by McCain campaign?

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KingGheedora

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Was just thinking a what if... doubt it's actually true. But what if he went back to Capitol Hill to get the House Republicans to be uncooperative, to then try to blame the bailout's bill's failure to pass on the Democrats, as a knock against Obama?
 
It seems that this economic mess is massively helping Obama. Why would McCain want to prolong this period that is giving a huge boost to Obama?
 
The longer the crisis goes on, the further he drops in the polls.

Can't get any more black and white than that.
 
Must be one hell of a campaign tactic since they got Pelosi to play right into their hand.

Their "plan"
1. Suspend campaign and go to Washington to provide 'leadership'
2. Get Pelosi to give highly partisan speech that blames everything on Republicans thus alienating them.
3. Score political points by blaming it all on Democrats...

BTW the Democrats are the majority in the house, they can pass the bill without ONE Republican vote, but are afraid to do so because they don't want to risk being help responsible if it fails.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Must be one hell of a campaign tactic since they got Pelosi to play right into their hand.

Their "plan"
1. Suspend campaign and go to Washington to provide 'leadership'
2. Get Pelosi to give highly partisan speech that blames everything on Republicans thus alienating them.
3. Score political points by blaming it all on Democrats...

BTW the Democrats are the majority in the house, they can pass the bill without ONE Republican vote, but are afraid to do so because they don't want to risk being help responsible if it fails.
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all above is true
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Score political points by blaming it all on Democrats...
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Reminds me of Ghana scoring points on Team USA Basketball in the Olympics.
 
Too much tinfoil for the OP. The failure to pass the bailout plan is pretty much a deathblow to McCain's campaign, especially since he promised on Sunday that he had built up a 'Republican coalition' and practically guaranteed the bill's passage.

The Dems couldn't get all their members because the far left is just as much against the bill as the far right. Ironically, for about the same reasons.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Too much tinfoil for the OP. The failure to pass the bailout plan is pretty much a deathblow to McCain's campaign, especially since he promised on Sunday that he had built up a 'Republican coalition' and practically guaranteed the bill's passage.

The Dems couldn't get all their members because the far left is just as much against the bill as the far right. Ironically, for about the same reasons.
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Ya, McCain just looks like a senile idiot about this whole thing. .

Last Monday - Economy is fundamantally strong
Last Thursday - I am suspending my canpaign to deal with this crisis.
Last Friday - Mean spirited condesending attitude turned indipendants off.
Weekend - hero McCain takes credit for getting the bill enough support to pass.
Moday - FUBAR!!!

LOL - he has really lost it... Obama isnt winning it now, McCain is just losing it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20...l5tqlTHA9itdItnx.Oe8UF
 
I was watching CSPAN tonight and particularly took interest in McCain's speech and Obama's speech given after the bill failed to pass in the house. McCain said something to the effect of "we can't blame people. Obama and his friends as democrats caused the bill not to pass." Seriously - in two sentences, back to back, he said, no one should be blamed, then he blamed it on Obama. AND, he was reading his entire speech! Someone should have proof-read it for him.

Obama did nothing of the sort - said that the leaders on both sides had come to an agreement but needed to get other members of the house on board, and that it'd be a rough road to getting it done, but it will be done.

Once again, I was thoroughly impressed with his speech, and underwhelmed at McCain's tactics.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Must be one hell of a campaign tactic since they got Pelosi to play right into their hand.

Their "plan"
1. Suspend campaign and go to Washington to provide 'leadership'
2. Get Pelosi to give highly partisan speech that blames everything on Republicans thus alienating them.
3. Score political points by blaming it all on Democrats...

BTW the Democrats are the majority in the house, they can pass the bill without ONE Republican vote, but are afraid to do so because they don't want to risk being help responsible if it fails.
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4. Swoop back into Washington and "convince" the Republicans to back it so he can be the "savior".

Problem with all this, though, is that most Americans really don't like this bailout in the first place. Maybe after the stock market tanks a bit more they will change their minds, but right now it's pretty damn unpopular.
 
This is the house republicans seeing McCain has 0% to win and trying to save their own asses. I think the house republicans go along with this bill if McCain was not down by almost double digits. I can't blame them no reason to help McCain since the presidental election is over. Now is the time to salvage as many house/senate seats as possible. McCain should fall on the sword and take one for his party because it is over for him.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The longer the crisis goes on, the further he drops in the polls.

Can't get any more black and white than that.
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Polls don't win Electoral Votes

Can't get any more black and white than that.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The longer the crisis goes on, the further he drops in the polls.

Can't get any more black and white than that.
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Polls don't win Electoral Votes

Can't get any more black and white than that.
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You still predicting a McCain win, or has reality caught up to you yet?
 
I wasn't seriously suggesting this was true at all, just a what if scenario, which came to me as I listened to McCain's speech after the bailout failed. He basically blamed the Democratic party's partisan politics for the failure. I think he should have blamed the failure on the rushing of the bill to the exclusion of much of the House members getting enough time to read the whole thing and think it through. Not sure if that's true or not, but it would get him more points than pulling stuff out of thin air and pinning it on Obama.
 
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