Bah, the people who came up with this software should just die.

notfred · Jul 6, 2004

I'm using a web application that is supposed to return a buch of data. The applciation gives me the option of getting data in HTML format, or XML format. The people who think they're giving me XML data arefvcking morons.

Screenshot of supposed "XML" output.

Sample of the source of the above document:

<html>
<head>
<title>BASIS+ Tools: Report</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body>

Project.Task.Subtask %CA% 

&lt?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?&gt 
&ltroot xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2000/10/XMLSchema" xmlnsd="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficedata"&gt 
&ltxsd:schema&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="dataroot"&gt 
&ltxsd:complexType&gt 
&ltxsd:choice maxOccurs="unbounded"&gt 
&ltxsd:element ref="Basis"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:choice&gt 
&lt/xsd:complexType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Basis"&gt 
&ltxsd:annotation&gt 
&ltxsd:appinfo/&gt 
&lt/xsd:annotation&gt 
&ltxsd:complexType&gt 
&ltxsd:sequence&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="PTS" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="64"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Project" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="11"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Task" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="32"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Title" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="255"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt

That's not XML! It's not even close! It's HTML that when rendered, kind of looks like XML. What fvcking good is that? I hate people! :|

RagingBITCH · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: notfred
I hate people! :|

I had no idea!

Quixfire · Jul 6, 2004

I believe a lot of people do not truly understand how XML works.

Orsorum · Jul 6, 2004

lol I was waiting for a copy and paste of gentobu's code from the programming challenge thread.

Mill · Jul 6, 2004

The people who created btrieve/Pervasive SQL should die as well.

ThePresence · Jul 6, 2004

OMG, you're using a PC!

Zenmervolt · Jul 6, 2004

Well, at least the Schema link goes to letitimate XML...

ZV

Armitage · Jul 6, 2004

Had a manager once who was completly sold on XML, even though he had absolutely no clue what it was. He suggested we consider porting our C/C++ project over to XML, because it was going to be really hot. Had to explain to him how XML isn't a programming language.

He was a fscking idiot, but was great for buzzword-bingo.

notfred · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: ThePresence
OMG, you're using a PC!

Heh, half my machines at work are PCs (one

).

BD2003 · Jul 6, 2004

Why are you always bitching? I mean I know this is nothing new...but why?

StageLeft · Jul 6, 2004

Some people try to use XML too much. I've had to do extensive work on a site written entirely with XSLT sheets which takes in XML and spits out the HTML. It takes about 5X as long to do anything with it as it would if it had been written initially in ASP. The guy who wrote it regrets having done it all with XSLT.

Descartes · Jul 6, 2004

I think the promulgators of the XML movement in early 2000 (or was it later?) are largely to blame for such egregious misuse. The idea that XML was the panacean answer to all things was so heavily pushed that everyone tried to use it for all things. People are still doing it today, and the result is a bunch of horribly amorphous XML documents that are more trouble to work with than other structured formats.

Anyway, I'd roll out the HTML DOM reader on that nonsense.

WannaFly · Jul 6, 2004

i'd be intrested to see whats below what you poasted, as there is alot. That looks like legitimate XML to me, it just has the schema/DTD built in - nothing wrong with that, the data is probably just below that.

edit: did read well enough before, didnt notice it was html rendered as XML

just looked at the screenshot

Kntx · Jul 6, 2004

That's a xsd file. Perfectly valid xml.

Descartes · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: Kntx
That's a xsd file. Perfectly valid xml.

You're right. I didn't look at his screenshot the first time, because I assumed the post represented the actual data.

tikwanleap · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: notfred
I'm using a web application that is supposed to return a buch of data. The applciation gives me the option of getting data in HTML format, or XML format. The people who think they're giving me XML data arefvcking morons.

Screenshot of supposed "XML" output.

Sample of the source of the above document:

<html>
<head>
<title>BASIS+ Tools: Report</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body>

Project.Task.Subtask %CA% 

&lt?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?&gt 
&ltroot xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2000/10/XMLSchema" xmlnsd="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficedata"&gt 
&ltxsd:schema&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="dataroot"&gt 
&ltxsd:complexType&gt 
&ltxsd:choice maxOccurs="unbounded"&gt 
&ltxsd:element ref="Basis"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:choice&gt 
&lt/xsd:complexType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Basis"&gt 
&ltxsd:annotation&gt 
&ltxsd:appinfo/&gt 
&lt/xsd:annotation&gt 
&ltxsd:complexType&gt 
&ltxsd:sequence&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="PTS" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="64"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Project" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="11"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Task" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="32"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Title" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="255"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 

Click to expand...

That's not XML! It's not even close! It's HTML that when rendered, kind of looks like XML. What fvcking good is that? I hate people! :|

Anyone else getting a sense of deja vu? I thought I saw this exact same post before like last year...

Zenmervolt · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: tikwanleap
Anyone else getting a sense of deja vu? I thought I saw this exact same post before like last year...

I'm in someone's sig! Yay!

ZV

So · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: notfred
I hate people! :|

Click to expand...

I had no idea!

Hear hear! Down with people!

PHiuR · Jul 6, 2004

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: notfred
I'm using a web application that is supposed to return a buch of data. The applciation gives me the option of getting data in HTML format, or XML format. The people who think they're giving me XML data arefvcking morons.

Screenshot of supposed "XML" output.

Sample of the source of the above document:

<html>
<head>
<title>BASIS+ Tools: Report</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body>

Project.Task.Subtask %CA% 

&lt?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?&gt 
&ltroot xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2000/10/XMLSchema" xmlnsd="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficedata"&gt 
&ltxsd:schema&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="dataroot"&gt 
&ltxsd:complexType&gt 
&ltxsd:choice maxOccurs="unbounded"&gt 
&ltxsd:element ref="Basis"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:choice&gt 
&lt/xsd:complexType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Basis"&gt 
&ltxsd:annotation&gt 
&ltxsd:appinfo/&gt 
&lt/xsd:annotation&gt 
&ltxsd:complexType&gt 
&ltxsd:sequence&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="PTS" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="64"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Project" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="11"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Task" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="32"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 
&lt/xsd:simpleType&gt 
&lt/xsd:element&gt 
&ltxsd:element name="Title" minOccurs="0" od:jetType="text" od:sqlSType="nvarchar"&gt 
&ltxsd:simpleType&gt 
&ltxsd:restriction base="xsd:string"&gt 
&ltxsd:maxLength value="255"/&gt 
&lt/xsd:restriction&gt 

Click to expand...

That's not XML! It's not even close! It's HTML that when rendered, kind of looks like XML. What fvcking good is that? I hate people! :|

Click to expand...

Anyone else getting a sense of deja vu? I thought I saw this exact same post before like last year...

thats cause notfred is a bot...

Bah, the people who came up with this software should just die.

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