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Bah - moved to a new house now my internet crawls

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lykaon78

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Just moved into a brand new home.

I'm using the same dial-up isp and the same phone number but now I connect at 28.8bps where as before I'd get at least 52000bps. Moved less than 5 miles from an apartment to a house.

The phone guy that hooked up our phone says my builder used quality lines inside the house.?


Any suggestions on how to bring that speed up?

Thanks!

<Pre-emptive strike> No, I can't do high speed (I'm too cheap).
 
Originally posted by: Yolner
The 90s are over. GET BROADBAND ALREADY
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I spend 2 hours on the internet per week.

I don't think $40+ a month is worth it, especially when I get dial-up free.
 
Your pre-emptive strike was ingored 😱

Call the phone company and complain?

There may be too many houses on the line your now hooked to.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: lykaon78
Originally posted by: Yolner
The 90s are over. GET BROADBAND ALREADY
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I spend 2 hours on the internet per week.

I don't think $40+ a month is worth it, especially when I get dial-up free.
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You have dial-up. That is why you only spend 2 hours on the internet per week. I have a close friend who said the same thing as you. Eventually, he signed up for cable internet. Now, he is doing things he never thought he would ever do. Free is great, but every time I attempt to do work on someone's pc that has dial-up I wanna scream. You can get DSL for quite a bit less though.

 
Some phone lines are capped at 28.8. In fact the phone compnay usually has to install special data lines for dial up users to see 50K. Your house must be connected via regular phone lines whereas the apartment was prolly part of a complex with a data line installed.

Like the others said though, the reason you only spend 2 hours on the net is cuz o the dial up. Get broadband and you'll be surfing about 6 hours a day 🙂. Whether that's good or not depends though.
 
I was in the same situation. The reason this happens is because in an area of new houses they use splitters to get more lines out of the actual copper wires. They take a pair of copper wires and install a device on it which allows it to create two separate lines, the problem with these devices is they cut your speed in half (and often introduce line noise). Most likely you are going to be out of luck on getting anything higher than 28.8 without going to dsl or cable.
 
Don't let those broadband guys gang up on you.
Obviously you have better things to do than spend 6 hours a day on the net.

I doubt that the contractors in house wiring has any affect on hookup speed.
You could hookup your own phone wire to the outside phone box to prove that.

I would bitch to the phone company, If that gets nothing, a diferent modem may help you out.
My own connection varies from 42,000 to 52,000 depending strictly on the modem
thats in the computer.

Hey, enjoy the new house and all the chores that go with it. No time for living on the net.
 
You copper in your new area could just suck. Try running an experiemental cable to the phone companies box if you can get to it. It probably won't help but it's worth a shot.
 
Originally posted by: lykaon78
Originally posted by: Yolner
The 90s are over. GET BROADBAND ALREADY
Click to expand...


I spend 2 hours on the internet per week.

I don't think $40+ a month is worth it, especially when I get dial-up free.
Click to expand...

It used to be $40-$45/mo here too, but Road Runner and Verizon have been competing against each other. I've had broadband RR for over a year for $29.95/month - heck, dial-up costs $22.95 in many cases so it's a no brainer. I won't pay $40-45 per month either, but $29.95 is doable.

As for phone lines, I've noticed the lines really vary from location to location, causing the top speed to be on the slow side sometimes.

 
Originally posted by: lykaon78
Just moved into a brand new home.

I'm using the same dial-up isp and the same phone number but now I connect at 28.8bps where as before I'd get at least 52000bps. Moved less than 5 miles from an apartment to a house.

The phone guy that hooked up our phone says my builder used quality lines inside the house.?


Any suggestions on how to bring that speed up?

Thanks!

<Pre-emptive strike> No, I can't do high speed (I'm too cheap).
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What's the actual performance increase from 28000 to 52000? Like 3kps to 5kps? Whoopty-freakin'-do! (actually I have no idea, what is the best Dowload speed attainable with a modem these days? 6kps?)

Get broadband and you'll NEVER regret it... except when you go to some poor saps place who still uses dialup!

*rib*

EDIT: Yeah... realize you do have a *real* question. So define "crawls" for us; how fast were you downloading before and how slow is it now? Perhaps you're getting a lot of packet loss at the new location do to line noise?
 
Broadband took away my life 🙂 Seriously, Dial up sucks, you can do so much more with Broadband. Imagine if you had to download a 200mb file at 3kb/sec hmm?
 
Originally posted by: bigboxes
Originally posted by: lykaon78
Originally posted by: Yolner
The 90s are over. GET BROADBAND ALREADY
Click to expand...
I spend 2 hours on the internet per week.

I don't think $40+ a month is worth it, especially when I get dial-up free.
Click to expand...

You have dial-up. That is why you only spend 2 hours on the internet per week. I have a close friend who said the same thing as you. Eventually, he signed up for cable internet. Now, he is doing things he never thought he would ever do. Free is great, but every time I attempt to do work on someone's pc that has dial-up I wanna scream. You can get DSL for quite a bit less though.
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That is very true. When IK was younger we had 56k and it was so slow I barely was ever on the internet unless it was important or soemthing. Once I got broadband I was joing forums and doing tons of other stuff. that could only be possible with broadband.

 
Originally posted by: Mullzy
Originally posted by: lykaon78
Just moved into a brand new home.

I'm using the same dial-up isp and the same phone number but now I connect at 28.8bps where as before I'd get at least 52000bps. Moved less than 5 miles from an apartment to a house.

The phone guy that hooked up our phone says my builder used quality lines inside the house.?


Any suggestions on how to bring that speed up?

Thanks!

<Pre-emptive strike> No, I can't do high speed (I'm too cheap).
Click to expand...

What's the actual performance increase from 28000 to 52000? Like 3kps to 5kps? Whoopty-freakin'-do! (actually I have no idea, what is the best Dowload speed attainable with a modem these days? 6kps?)

Get broadband and you'll NEVER regret it... except when you go to some poor saps place who still uses dialup!

*rib*

EDIT: Yeah... realize you do have a *real* question. So define "crawls" for us; how fast were you downloading before and how slow is it now? Perhaps you're getting a lot of packet loss at the new location do to line noise?
Click to expand...

There can be a huge difference in 28000 and 52000, because the 28000 is a fallback speed when the line quality is poor. If you're getting 52000, you have a very high quality connection, whereas the 28000 indicates a bad one, so in reality the quality may be 3-4x difference. I was stuck with dialup/satellite until this past January, but not by choice. Now I'm a very happy DSL customer.
 
Join the club. Just moved from an apartment to my first house, went from blazing fast cable modem speeds to a lightning 24 kbps 🙁 No broadband of any sort in this area and I guess the whole neighborhood suffers from the same problem - old lines I guess?

There is a bright side however. When I had broadband I spent countless hours online playing Medal of Honor: AA (spearhead). I would not eat, shower or get any work done! I got good, I mean real good - joined a clan and fragged away till the wee hours of the morning.

I was so addicted, I would dream about tossing grenades up and into windows, climbing to rooftops with my sniper rifle, ect. I was finally a HPB! Ahhh, if only I could make money doing this. But alas, those days are gone (sigh), now my mother has a higher ping in Yahoo scrabble games 🙁

Oh well, atleast hopefully you'll get things done around the house now like me 🙁

 
Give the guy a break:roll:
Not everyone wants or really needs highspeed internet access.
But, highspeed is alot nicer than dialup.....:clock:
 
I had the same problem. The telephone company said that it was caused because we were too far from their hub. So we did some searching around and ended up going cable. We don't pay any more out of pocket than we did because of their promotion. So do some looking and you should be able to get into a deal that will speed up your service and not break your bank.
 
You know, everyone seems to be ganging up on this guy, "get broadband already". Well, guess what, he might not even be able to do that - normally, if you are limited to 28.8 speeds, your POTS line is connected to a "pairgain" system (what they used to be called, now they have something newer that they sometimes use). Guess what? If your voice line is provided through one of these devices, NO DSL FOR YOU EITHER.
🙁

Alternatively, if you order DSL, and the telco is feeling mighty generous, they might "switch your pairs" from a pairgain to a real set of copper, in order to provision DSL. However, that's unlikely, as the whole reason that they normally install a "pairgain", is because they've run out of pairs in the neighborhood.

(ObBrag: I used to get 54.3K connects on dialup, I had pretty clean lines I guess. Yes, that connect speed was real, I could pull about 6.5KB/s of compressed material, or 11KB/s for uncompressed text like newsgroups. So much for that whacky theory that dial-up is "limited to 53Kbit/s by the FCC", because that's a load of horse-excrement. The truth is that simply very few lines are simply capable of those speeds, and modem mfg's had to come up with some excuse, lest they find themselves a target of a class-action lawsuit.)

Suggestion to the OP: Find someone in your neighborhood with broadband, and an unsecured WiFi LAN... 😛
 
You might have some white noise on your line. The main reason for this is moisture on the incoming line. The way to test it is simply plug a phone set into the jack your using for your modum, punch one number, and listen. You should have dead silence. If there's any noise, then take the phone out to the network box and plug it in there, with the house phones disconected. Punch the number again and listen. If you still have the noise, call the phone co. and start the routine for getting a new line into the house. The noise is usually worse for a couple of days after a rain.
 
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